Civ 5 GAK Embassies

CivilizationRox · Apr 22, 2012

I remember hearing in the Pax Demo about embassies. I wonder how that will work.

Heinage · Apr 22, 2012

I think you'll need an embassy with a civ before you can have research agreements with them

Glassmage · Apr 22, 2012

and more diplomatic bonus?

Heinage · Apr 22, 2012

I also think i read somewhere that you need an embassy with a civ first before you can infiltrate them with spies.

Does anyone else remember this?

vcutag · Apr 22, 2012

It sounds like they're going back to Civ III for how espionage works with respect to embassies, etc.

CivilizationRox · Apr 22, 2012

vcutag said:
It sounds like they're going back to Civ III for how espionage works with respect to embassies, etc.

How did it work in Civilization III. I never played it.

GenjiKhan · Apr 22, 2012

Heinage said:
I also think i read somewhere that you need an embassy with a civ first before you can infiltrate them with spies.

It makes sense,but sure It'll have to need a good advantage to compensate it,like a happiness bonus when trading luxury resources and/or some kind of bonus on RAs .

DeathFace · Apr 23, 2012

I think I remember Dennis placing a spy in an Ethiopian city in the PAX demo and at that point he didn't have very good relations with them so I presume you don't need an embassy to place a spy.

smallfish · Apr 23, 2012

That was at the start of the third demo segment, the "War" chapter. He was already at war with Ethiopia at that point... but maybe he had set up an embassy long before conflict?

Bechhold · Apr 23, 2012

I'm willing to bet they just took a page from Call to Power and made a unit that has to go to any foreign city and setup a permanent embassy.

Montov · Apr 23, 2012

Would be weird if you can only use spies against civs with an embassy. That would mean you cannot spy on another civ you've been at war with from the beginning of the game. It would also mean the Always War option renders espionage useless.

filli_noctus · Apr 23, 2012

I may be misrembering but wasn't it mentioned at some point that embassies expand the range of actions a spy can attempt.

Numitor · Apr 23, 2012

Bechhold said:
I'm willing to bet they just took a page from Call to Power and made a unit that has to go to any foreign city and setup a permanent embassy.

I doubt there will be a unit needed.

Talking about the units thing: wasnt Coll to Power taken that idea from Civ2? As far as I remember, there was such a diplomat unit (and a female looking spy later on).
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theadder · Apr 23, 2012

I thought that "Found Embassy" was seen in one of the diplomacy screens.

I highly doubt that it will entail a unit, as it is out of character for the rest of the game. They have specifically ensured that spies are not present on the map, for example.

MadDjinn · Apr 23, 2012

Glassmage said:
and more diplomatic bonus?

In the PAX demo video, there was a 'green' diplo modifier that said something about having an embassy in your capital (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEPWvjSWAw @ 1:20).

vcutag · Apr 23, 2012

CivilizationRox said:
How did it work in Civilization III. I never played it.

It's been awhile since I played, but as I remember it you established an embassy with another power for a certain amount of gold once you'd A) met them, and B) discovered Writing. You couldn't do any kind of diplomacy with that player apart from declare war on them, nor could you contact them out of range of sight of their cities or units, without first having an embassy. Once you had an embassy established, you got a look at their capital city screen, which was nice. Once you got to the point where you could do espionage, it was done through the embassy screen.

CivilizationRox · Apr 23, 2012

vcutag said:
It's been awhile since I played, but as I remember it you established an embassy with another power for a certain amount of gold once you'd A) met them, and B) discovered Writing. You couldn't do any kind of diplomacy with that player apart from declare war on them, nor could you contact them out of range of sight of their cities or units, without first having an embassy. Once you had an embassy established, you got a look at their capital city screen, which was nice. Once you got to the point where you could do espionage, it was done through the embassy screen.

Thanks.

Limp · Oct 27, 2012

I have a problem with embassies and I hope no-one minds me resurrecting this old thread with a query!

I just started a game on level 6 (King?), epic and 4 turns into the game I meet another Civ who wants to set up an embassy. This surely means that he has researched writing already after 4 turns! As if this isn't disconcerting enough, 10 turns in I meet another Civ who wants an embassy in my capital. As I'd quite like to build the Great Library and am going directly for Writing to that end, I just don't understand how all this is possible - so, in 4 turns the AI could have found 2 ancient ruins both with a tech advance?! And then another Civ the same? Someone please tell me if I'm missing something and being stupid but what on earth is going on here?! I know they get slight advantages at this level, but this is ridiculous.

Cheers in advance for any reply.

Maximo the Xth · Oct 27, 2012

Limp said:
I just don't understand how all this is possible - so, in 4 turns the AI could have found 2 ancient ruins both with a tech advance?!

On Level 5+ the AI starts with the free tech pottery. So it's just one ruin with a technology in it, which is definitely possible.

Limp · Oct 27, 2012

Maximo the Xth said:
On Level 5+ the AI starts with the free tech pottery. So it's just one ruin with a technology in it, which is definitely possible.

Bugger

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