His work will live on, so there is a lot of time for you (an all other newer people) to enjoy his work! Just check out his sig. Those are all maps he has built.
MAP development
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His work will live on, so there is a lot of time for you (an all other newer people) to enjoy his work! Just check out his sig. Those are all maps he has built.
I appreciate the kind words. (I may do some more modding some time in the future, but for now it seems my interests have changed.)
I had a look at the GEM file this morning, but I haven't gotten very far with it... In addition I checked out the 40 civs mod, but I got an error with that. Also, it seems Genghis_Kai is preparing a new version of GEM. Anyway, here's the mapfile:
I had a look at the GEM file this morning, but I haven't gotten very far with it... In addition I checked out the 40 civs mod, but I got an error with that. Also, it seems Genghis_Kai is preparing a new version of GEM. Anyway, here's the mapfile:
Genghis_Kai
GEM modder
What was your role JEELEN? I might be able to give a bit of help?
I am actually also phasing out from CIV, but a modern scenario on GEM just sounds too appealing!
I am actually also phasing out from CIV, but a modern scenario on GEM just sounds too appealing!
Genghis_Kai
GEM modder
@DVS: Got the message and replied.
look at the map though. The middle east is already a good size. The map is near perfect really, we just may want to make adjustments due to our civ selection, and due to the above average productivity/population density of some of them.
Genghis_Kai
GEM modder
It is very difficult to change the ratios now. The ratios are basically set initially when draft the map. And yes, Isreal and Syria are one of the upscaled area already. About 3 times larger than it should.
Genghis_Kai
GEM modder
I had an initial look last night on Palestine. May be we can fit into it Gaza for Palestine and Jerusalem for Israel and that really is the most already.
The plan was to make a GEM based map for World 2009 Mod; I started out with the last GEM map (18 civs, to be extended to 36, I believe).
After 10+ years of Civ - I've been a member only since late 2006 - I feel I've reached the limits of what Civ can do for me personally, though I still enjoy looking at what other people can create with Civ as a base and I have full confidence in the abilities of new talents, of which I recently saw some fine additions (both in modding and in graphical creations).
@Genghis_Kai: I've uploaded the map with all our civs added, so you can get started on city placement whenever you'd like. I sent you a PM.
Issues:
1- We have a 50 civ DLL installed, but we still appear to be having a problem having more than 40 playable civs in the scenario. They're all entered (48 including 3 minor/barbarian civs), yet all teams higher than # 39 are not showing up on the "select your civilization" screen.
2- Flags are not showing up in game. This is almost certainly something simple that I'm just missing.
3- Artstyles still have to be changed for most civs (right now they are all set to European). This is something I can easily do later. We may want to consider looking in to adding the AFRICAN artstyle from civgold, since that is something notably missing.
Issues:
1- We have a 50 civ DLL installed, but we still appear to be having a problem having more than 40 playable civs in the scenario. They're all entered (48 including 3 minor/barbarian civs), yet all teams higher than # 39 are not showing up on the "select your civilization" screen.
2- Flags are not showing up in game. This is almost certainly something simple that I'm just missing.
3- Artstyles still have to be changed for most civs (right now they are all set to European). This is something I can easily do later. We may want to consider looking in to adding the AFRICAN artstyle from civgold, since that is something notably missing.
Ok, more details regarding the civ limit problem.
I know NikNaks has very limited time these days, and I hate to burden him further, but perhaps he can look into this. He knows a great deal more about this stuff than I do.
I don't get any errors with the map the way it is, I just can't see some of the civs in the select your civ screen.
But when I add the "ContactWithTeam=" tags to each team, and have them go up to team 47, I start getting the following errors when loading a game. Hopefully these can help us identify where the restriction we have to change is.
First error:
and then:
@NikNaks- Hopefully we can find a time to get on yahoo together soon and discuss how to go about fixing this. In the mean time I will search around and see what I can come up with.
I know NikNaks has very limited time these days, and I hate to burden him further, but perhaps he can look into this. He knows a great deal more about this stuff than I do.
I don't get any errors with the map the way it is, I just can't see some of the civs in the select your civ screen.
But when I add the "ContactWithTeam=" tags to each team, and have them go up to team 47, I start getting the following errors when loading a game. Hopefully these can help us identify where the restriction we have to change is.
First error:
Spoiler :
and then:
Spoiler :
@NikNaks- Hopefully we can find a time to get on yahoo together soon and discuss how to go about fixing this. In the mean time I will search around and see what I can come up with.
Genghis_Kai
GEM modder
I've spent a bit of time working on city placement today.
What I am doing is basically using the city list in my 1940 scenario as a starting point and changing ownership to the civ list adopted in here. That would allow me assigning cities with a more practical approach (i.e. that cities won't fit because of too close). Then I have spent some time searching for the largest urban areas in population to assign city sizes.
At the moment, I am doing all of these just on excel. This is always the way I do scenarios and it is very easy to place them on the map when I feel the balance is correct.
Some initial stats for your interest:
Civ - number of cities
Civ - Total city population (millions)
The reason why I post these initial stat is that I want to show the current game balance for the choice of civs. I understand there are already extensive discussion in this mod on the civ choices already so I won't throw out my personal opinions yet, before I get bombarded
Instead, may be you guys who have been involved in the previous discussion can have some say on it, so that I can learn from those wisdoms too 
Is really late in here already. So write more tomorrow.
What I am doing is basically using the city list in my 1940 scenario as a starting point and changing ownership to the civ list adopted in here. That would allow me assigning cities with a more practical approach (i.e. that cities won't fit because of too close). Then I have spent some time searching for the largest urban areas in population to assign city sizes.
At the moment, I am doing all of these just on excel. This is always the way I do scenarios and it is very easy to place them on the map when I feel the balance is correct.
Some initial stats for your interest:
Civ - number of cities
Spoiler :
Civ - Total city population (millions)
Spoiler :
The reason why I post these initial stat is that I want to show the current game balance for the choice of civs. I understand there are already extensive discussion in this mod on the civ choices already so I won't throw out my personal opinions yet, before I get bombarded
Instead, may be you guys who have been involved in the previous discussion can have some say on it, so that I can learn from those wisdoms too Is really late in here already. So write more tomorrow.
Wow great stuff, we're really happy to have you doing this. Thanks for posting that info. As I mentioned via PM, your 1940 map is the best oversized/civ heavy map I have ever played for a number of reasons, so I for one am glad to see you using it as a base.
I think the cities you have on it are near perfect as is. The areas I would suggest you consider altering, would be as mentioned Israel/Palestine and to a lesser extent, the Koreas.
Personally I think it would be best to try to get in 5 or 6 cities in Israel/Palestine to best represent that important conflict, which is why I suggested increasing the land area if possible. The two have populations of about 7 and 4 million respectively.
Gaza Strip as the capital for the Palestinians, and East Jerusalem. (East Jerusalem is the proposed capital for the Palestinian state, but that does not exist yet, was the idea here).
Jerusalem as the capital for Israel, along with Tel Aviv, and whatever other 1 or 2 cities work best for placement.
I'd be very interested to hear what you think about this, and any other areas.
edit: Sorry, somehow I missed your posts right above on this topic, I am an idiot. Ok, so we can only have one for each? Can we make it into two each by having them extend into the regions that are in reality Lebanon and Jordan?
Anyway, just a thought. I'm sure whatever you decide on will work best.
I think the cities you have on it are near perfect as is. The areas I would suggest you consider altering, would be as mentioned Israel/Palestine and to a lesser extent, the Koreas.
Personally I think it would be best to try to get in 5 or 6 cities in Israel/Palestine to best represent that important conflict, which is why I suggested increasing the land area if possible. The two have populations of about 7 and 4 million respectively.
Gaza Strip as the capital for the Palestinians, and East Jerusalem. (East Jerusalem is the proposed capital for the Palestinian state, but that does not exist yet, was the idea here).
Jerusalem as the capital for Israel, along with Tel Aviv, and whatever other 1 or 2 cities work best for placement.
I'd be very interested to hear what you think about this, and any other areas.
edit: Sorry, somehow I missed your posts right above on this topic, I am an idiot. Ok, so we can only have one for each? Can we make it into two each by having them extend into the regions that are in reality Lebanon and Jordan?
Anyway, just a thought. I'm sure whatever you decide on will work best.
I understand there are already extensive discussion in this mod on the civ choices already so I won't throw out my personal opinions yet, before I get bombarded
lol, true enough. I can't promise you won't.
We have talked a lot about civs, even beyond this forum, in the original concept and development threads. Let us know what changes/additions you are thinking about, it's not too late to make them.
We have discussed darn near every country on earth, so for any that you're thinking about, I will try to recall or find the arguments for/against them.
