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jonny41177

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What are some of early policy you choose when going for culture & domination victories for playing on standard continents on immortal? I do fine up to renaissance then drag behind in techs it seems really fast. I like to play nice with my border civ unless they are an aggressive AI which then I change my strategy for stopping early expansion and building more ranged units &spears. I have won by diplomacy because I control the city states but that's bout it. Any help from adv players about starting policies?
 
What are some of early policy you choose when going for culture & domination victories for playing on standard continents on immortal? I do fine up to renaissance then drag behind in techs it seems really fast. I like to play nice with my border civ unless they are an aggressive AI which then I change my strategy for stopping early expansion and building more ranged units &spears. I have won by diplomacy because I control the city states but that's bout it. Any help from adv players about starting policies?

My usual starting policies are "play it safe" policies. Finish Liberty or Tradition, then go Patronage-Consulates for free city-state friendships. For the free Liberty GP, I pick Scientist and use him to make an Academy. Always make academies with scientists until at LEAST the industrial era, I usually have 3 academies before I start bulbing them, and make all the academies in your College city. Lock the tiles so your citizens work them, and try to put them on grassland so that your citizens don't starve while doing so. I usually put my college in a city with an Observatory, and if that's not possible, I pick the city with the highest growth potential that doesn't have all my Art buildings.

Honestly, starting policies aren't as important as getting your science up and growing your population (for more science). If you're stalling in the Renaissance and watching people leap ahead into the industrial era way ahead of you, that's a sign that you built your National College way too late, and that you've been plagued by unhappiness because you expanded too fast and couldn't grow. Never expand faster than you can afford to, even with Liberty. 4 cities that grow is better than 5 cities that can't.
 
Renaissance is when you should catch up, not fall behind. Are you using your spy? They help a lot.
 
Yeah I like to get at least 4 cities to start with on standard which makes it hard for me to build national college when I should. I usually start with tradition to get free monuments then go liberty for free worker settler, I either get free scientist or engineer depends and yes I use my spy lol I usually leave it in the city that is 2nd in techs besides England.
 
I haven't had any luck with liberty starts on immortal. I'm usually stuck with too few unique luxes to keep expanding or no where left to expand. And if I get stuck at 4 cities because of happiness, I'd have rather gone Tradition.

That said, I focus all my immortal early game on catching up in science. Beelining Philosophy, then Universities, and Public Schools and being able to work the specialists. For NC, sometimes I'll settle one additional city and rush buy the library, then build the NC, then build my other (or two) cities. Hopefully there is space left.

Farm The World! You want to keep your cities happily growing. Having a size 8 capital compared to the AI's size 20 capital t100 is not what you want to see. You really need to send one or two caravans/cargo ships to the capital after you make your last settler to compensate for all the lack of growth while you were expanding.

If I can keep growing, usually having to move food routes around some, I usually start seeing the light about the time I get the public schools built, the first 2 policies in rationalism open, and 3 or 4 academies planted. I'm also able to get two or three RA friends on a standard map and I buy RAs until I'm ahead. Observatories are a lot more important on immortal, so think about that when you settle.
 
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