Zorag
Chieftain
Yes, but if he is a minister there is no reason why he wouldn't reveal himself as such. Only a communist would keep his ability hidden.
I refer the honorable gentlemen to my most recent post...Úmarth;9256857 said:So whb survived a tie? That situation seems awfully familiar...
My fellow ministers, let us review what we know:
First that there appears to be, I hope, only one communist hiding in our ranks. Not only do the instructions left in our care tell us we must "root out the Communist" (singular), but if there were two then we would be in dire trouble as we would have to guess correctly by the second day or lose everything.
Second, remembering the history of our Amazonian forebears, the charismatic villain did not have the stomach for murder -- clearly there cannot be a charismatic non-murderous traitor if there is only one traitor! If any of us here is charismatic (and surely we must judge each minister's eloquence from his words) then that person is not a traitor.
Third, a lone spy would need one or more abilities to help him hide among six honest men. My guess is that the spy, through his espionage, must know which of us is whom. That is, I'd guess the spy already knows which of us have special abilities. Now, if you were a villain, and knew which of your opponents were empowered, whom would you vote to lynch first?
Fourth, slaze is still silent, but so was his innocent ancestor last time. (So his silence conveys no information so far.)
Fifth, Caledorn's actions are dangerous. He intends to engineer a tie. That was how the Amazons were defeated, as the traitor in their midst was empowered to break the tie at the last moment in any direction he chose.
I think I've hinted enough that Tboy is now the most suspicious in my mind*, with Zorag a close second (as dog-piling the first vote would normally be a good strategy for self-preservation whatever he claims about noble intentions). I'm leaving my vote with Zorag this round, both because there is no realistic prospect of gathering enough votes for Tboy and because there is poetic justice if I dog-pile Zorag after he just dogpiled me
* Also because I believe the best spy to make a good game would be experienced, ie someone who played and participated significantly last time -- but that's second guessing the gamemaster so might be cheeky.
No, that was the situation in the Amazon where there were three more villagers. But with only 7 villagers, it would go 5-2, 4-2 (first lynching on no information), 3-2 (first murder), and the villagers would have to guess correctly on day 2. Guess incorrectly and it goes 2-2 (wrong lynching), 1-2 (second murder), and the last villager cannot win -- even if he miraculously wins the vote and lynches one mafia member, the other one gets him at sundown. With 7 players, I'd only expect one communist.Or we could be in the situation where there are two communists who don't know who each other are - as our Amazonian ancestors discovered. This would thereby weaken their chances as opposed to if they knew each other.
That's why I think he has talents, but not that particular talent. History does not repeat itself that closely in these matters. (And in any case I've got that talent -- see next post -- so the villain probably doesn't have it too.)Not necessarily - while the culture of our Amazonian ancestors may have made charisma and an eye for murder mutually exclusive, I see no reason why this should continue into 20th Century China. Indeed, if there is only one communist in our ranks, he is likely to need all the talents they can have to infiltrate and survive in the cabinet.
Unless that is the Marxist's special ability. Why do I think that is your ability? Unless we are very unlucky ministers, I don't think you voted to lynch me first action in the game entirely at random.Secondly, (going OOC a bit), from what I know of mafia no-one knows who has which special abilities beforehand apart from the players themselves.
Then you are one game more experienced than me! Online, anyway -- many games in person at youth camps (of course the GM wouldn't know that) In person it's a whole different ball game -- listening for rustling movements in the first round!Also, while I'm flattered that you think my experience would make me a good infiltrator, I would nonetheless like to mention that this is my second game of mafia ever - I would hardly call myself a veteran.
My dear boy, you misinterpret me -- I think you are a communist making a terrible job of pretending to be a KMT minister!Plus, perhaps the reason I seem to you like a communist making a good job of pretending to be a KMT minister, is because I actually am a KMT minister?
As I am convinced that the murderer already knows this, it will do no harm to reveal it to my fellow ministers. It is because I am a very persuasive, yet honest, individual. (I role-played the heck out of that one to drop every hint I could give -- yes I can sway tied votes, no I'm not mafia)Uf...
It is unfortunate that I was killed in the first day based on what is perceived as socially negative behaviour (bandwagoning). You would have expected people to focus on using reason and logic to decide their actions in a game such as this.
Do we get any explanation as to why the tie ended so?
Now, Tboy's first vote was for someone who has a special ability*. The first murder was of someone who has (now sadly "had") a very important special ability. Either we all have equally vital special abilities, and you can answer that for yourselves, or the murderer knows who does.
* He then also started speculating about whether there might be a charismatic individual on the honest team (suspiciously prescient given he just voted to lynch me) and then that the charismatic individual might "falsely claim" to be on the good team (perhaps so I couldn't then reveal myself?). That's what made me reckon the villain knows who we all are before the good doctor was murdered.
So, this leaves the information in your own hands. Are we all empowered with abilities as significant as swaying the vote or saving a life, or is there an order to the villain's scheme?
To test this, we could all say "aye" or "nay" as to whether we have significant special abilities. If it's all "aye"s then maybe I am mistaken; if there are many "nay"s then that points to a pattern.
Smiley added -- I really don't want Tboy to take my suspicions of him personally; it's all just good fun.
Uf...
It is unfortunate that I was killed in the first day based on what is perceived as socially negative behaviour (bandwagoning). You would have expected people to focus on using reason and logic to decide their actions in a game such as this.
Do we get any explanation as to why the tie ended so?