They're hardly cure-alls in this game, I'm surprised we have so many in favor of making them weaker in terms of usability.
It may be because they only play on low difficulty levels... Move up some and feel the pain!
It may be because they only play on low difficulty levels... Move up some and feel the pain!
I play with Noble difficulty and I feel it is right for me.
I usually play on large maps with 8 opponents and I manage to stay at the top 4 up until the modern age.
Once I start accumulate nukes it become much easier.
In my last game I was number 2 where the number 1 civ was much stronger than me.
The other remaining 3 civs where way behind.
Once I used numerous nukes against the number 1 civ there was no challenge left in the game.
Even if the other 3 civs have declared war on me I could have still handle them easily.
Up until the nukes my game was fun and challenging.
Once I got all these nukes on wholesale price the game become ridiculously easy.
That is pretty much my feedback.
I play with Noble difficulty and I feel it is right for me.
I usually play on large maps with 8 opponents and I manage to stay at the top 4 up until the modern age.
Once I start accumulate nukes it become much easier.
In my last game I was number 2 where the number 1 civ was much stronger than me.
The other remaining 3 civs where way behind.
Once I used numerous nukes against the number 1 civ there was no challenge left in the game.
Even if the other 3 civs have declared war on me I could have still handle them easily.
Up until the nukes my game was fun and challenging.
Once I got all these nukes on wholesale price the game become ridiculously easy.
That is pretty much my feedback.
Although I think a country would encounter backlash if it launched a nuke today, probably bad sanctions, how do you think the world would respond if spain declared war on france and promptly COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED paris?
Yeah, I suppose that's an argument for it, but it doesn't really have a realistic base. Why should it be impossible for two nationalities to have a unit in the same 360 km^2 area?
And it still doesn't really solve the problem, because they could still be in one of the surrounding 8 tiles, and prevent an attack.
I believe you are confusing 2 diferent features related to nukes: Global warming ( tile goes to desert ) and fallout overlay...
This more represents an inability to fight without nukes on your part, rather than nukes being too strong.
It prooves only one thing: that you are unable to win other than with nukes. Therefore I think that you are missing a lot of other strategies.
You simply do not see them, but they exist.
As I mentioned earlier, on noble/large if you're playing on epic or slower, you can win the game fast by over-whelming everybody with horse archers...MAYBE upgrading to knights to fight the last 1-2 AIs, maybe not. MUCH earlier than nukes. I use this as an example because even though horse archers are quite different from nukes, they can completely murder multiple civs on difficulties well above noble...so that nukes make your game easier on that difficulty is no barometer as to their actual balance. Unless of course you feel horse archers are overpowering too (probably are vs the AI, humans can at least stop them without needing deity bonuses).
Can two horse archers destroy 150 enemy units in one turn?
I don’t think so.
On the other hand I did just that with 2 nukes destroying 150 enemy units that were stationed in a city (and I took out almost the entire city too).
There is no comparison here.
Winning with nukes is way easier, and what makes it so easy is their cheap cost.
I could have fought without nukes if I wanted to or if I had no other choice.
It would have been an uphill battle, but I had a good chance of successes.
I could have fought without nukes if I wanted to or if I had no other choice.
It would have been an uphill battle, but I had a good chance of successes.
However, the availability of such destructive nukes for such cheap price was just too hard to resist, so I used them.
So that is exactly my point it is too easy to win with nukes.
For that reason I think they should be more expensive.
It can be castastrophic to focus on culture on difficult levels, for what i know. But yet, I probably know less than you.
If you know the diplo tendencies of all the AIs it is very frequently possible to win culture.