Kal-el
Deity
The Intelligence Agent: Enlightenment Era Spy Unit
Would love to see this guy done so we can have a complete espionage line-up.
Would love to see this guy done so we can have a complete espionage line-up.
Unit Request: Intelligence Agent (Enlightenment Era Spy Unit)
- Thread starter Kal-el
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Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I also have been trying to get someone to make the Polynesian Swordsman, but it looks like I'm going to get stuck doing it once I get Poser 4 or 5...
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
He remember me Lavoisier or some other scientist... but I hope that ke will not have the same end of Pascal: guillotined (the great revenge of any phisics scholar! 
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Kal-el
Deity
I was thinking more of a young Ben Franklin, but being a scientist fits well with the role of the intelligence agent. I am thinking specifically of the Patrick O'Brien novels and his character Stephen Maturin who is not only a member of the Royal Society, but also a pivotal member of the Naval Intelligence community.
El Justo
Deity
what type of stats would you all give a civ3 spy?
how i miss the civ2 spy unit
how i miss the civ2 spy unit
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
@Kal-el: if you want this guy, it's because you have solved the bug about the land spy units?
Sarkyn
Warlord
What bug is that?
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
Sarkyn said:
The AI workers found the invisible and hiddens nationality units, and then the AI attacks.
El Justo
Deity
@rufus
you have used/tried a land spy unit in-game?
approximate stats?
extra movement pts? stealth attack?
you have used/tried a land spy unit in-game?
approximate stats?
extra movement pts? stealth attack?
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
yes, and this is the problem. See also the Rar delta documentation.
El Justo
Deity
huh?.............Rufus T. Firefly said:
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
The AI workers search in every tile to make an improvement, then AI found your hidden and invisible unit: for it, there is enemy and it attacks. So, they are always discovered and destroyed.
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Hmm.. well, if you use the 0 Defense HN strategy... then you wouldn't have to worry about that...
The other thing is, if you give Spies the cruise missile feature so that they're destroyed after one use, you could give them very high mobility, and they'd be able to hit in a single turn without being picked up by the AI's attack units...
But what features to give it?? Bombard? Give it the chance to destroy some buildings? Damage some units?
The other thing is, if you give Spies the cruise missile feature so that they're destroyed after one use, you could give them very high mobility, and they'd be able to hit in a single turn without being picked up by the AI's attack units...
But what features to give it?? Bombard? Give it the chance to destroy some buildings? Damage some units?
El Justo
Deity
0 Def/HN flag works (ai won't search&destroy)? you've tried this DP?Dom Pedro II said:
i thought about the cruise missile flag but wondered what anim (flc) to use (presumably none).
re stats: i was figuring moderate A/D numbers, higher movement, invisible, HN, capture, pillage (removing this form other foot units) and most importantly, stealth, so that it can capture arty pieces, workers, ships in port and air units on the ground (in the city).
would this work? i don't know but "sabotage" would be what i'd aim for.
Rufus T. Firefly said:He remember me Lavoisier or some other scientist... but I hope that ke will not have the same end of Pascal: guillotined (the great revenge of any phisics scholar!
Pascal wasn't guillotined! He died in 1662 after a long illness. You're thinking of Lavoisier.
This chap would be a great-looking unit, and possibly quite versatile too. He reminds me of the young Leibniz, who worked as a sort of diplomat - although he wore a much bigger wig...
Rufus T. Firefly
Rufus is coming in town!
Plotinus said:
Are you sure? BTW, a good end
And about the use, it could be also a good medieval-early industrial scientific leader.
El Justo
Deity
rufus,
you've employed spies in your games before?
stats and flags?
you've employed spies in your games before?
stats and flags?
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
El Justo said:
It's not that the AI won't search and destroy... it's that the AI will be completely unable to kill the unit... when an attacking unit tries to attack, it will simply end up occupying the same space as the 0Def/HN unit... The only way to destroy them is to bombard them. They can also be killed when attacking too, of course.
This is how I've changed my submarines... AI ships can occupy the same space as my subs without attacking the sub thus giving subs an added bonus.
And this has been tested, and it does, indeed, work.
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