ahmedhadzi
Relocation Consultant
OK. So can we settle on what do we want from them, so I can send them email? Or will you handle this Obs by skype?
Pacal II/MERLOT Diplomacy
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it will absolutely benefit them, even if we cant trade ivory with them, for four easy reasons:
1.
to survive in this game, they need construction. no idea how they plan to survive in a HI game without it (no catas = rip). lbs dont really help here without catas. lbs simply mean death comes a little slower and with more big stones on their heads...
2.
HAs are amazingly versatile in HI games. you can do quick attacks and they come inbuild with shock if you have a stable. so not even spears are a save defence. with enough HAs and catas you can even stop berserkers + XY and such if you have enough numbers
3.
we will go berserk with our phants and might very well end up REALLY crippling one of the 4 idiots. so it might essentially turn into a 3vs2,5 (with us ending up with 1,5 of the land)
4.
feuda costs the double of the above techs. we cant share research on it... ...so what´s the point in researching this way???
(if they plan to go down this road, they better go for machinery to stop the berserkes, lbs dont really help here
)not going for construction and hbr is plain stupid. each tech should be like 5-6 turns, if each team researches one of them its fine. if they dont see that, we have a problem (and i mean not only the missing elephants...)
obsolete
Deity
I already mentioned earlier that I didn't see how longbows was going to save them from the war vs HUMAN opponents.
I will try to talk some COMMON SENSE into them through MSN if I can. Unfortunatley they don't even use skype. Hmm, seems to be a very inexperienced ally, sad for us. On the other hand, they were smart enough to send their UU over to us as fast as they could so maybe we are being a little too hard on them at this time.
I will try to talk some COMMON SENSE into them through MSN if I can. Unfortunatley they don't even use skype. Hmm, seems to be a very inexperienced ally, sad for us. On the other hand, they were smart enough to send their UU over to us as fast as they could so maybe we are being a little too hard on them at this time.
ahmedhadzi
Relocation Consultant
Email from Merlot 4 hours ago
sounds good. some points:
1. one of our diplomats should do the live chat, not the turnplayer (as requested from team pacal)
2. we already have stated here, that we are willing to share all our technologies, ressources etc for free, so nothing much to discuss here... ...hand it out
3. we also have pointed out what techs we need (hbr and construction) and why, so also not much to discuss on this matter
-> go diplomats, now it gets interesting, please react fast
1. one of our diplomats should do the live chat, not the turnplayer (as requested from team pacal)
2. we already have stated here, that we are willing to share all our technologies, ressources etc for free, so nothing much to discuss here... ...hand it out
3. we also have pointed out what techs we need (hbr and construction) and why, so also not much to discuss on this matter
-> go diplomats, now it gets interesting, please react fast
ahmedhadzi
Relocation Consultant
I sent them email that I will be available for chat this weekend. If someone can do it before that let me know.
sounds good.
obsolete
Deity
They can tech much faster than us right now. Next turn they should get alpha, after that we trade Math and hopefully you can talk them into teching Construction for us, since they can get it much faster. We should go after the cheaper HBR, especially since they don't have fants and it seems they don't want to tech it anyway.
ahmedhadzi
Relocation Consultant
No answer from them so far
obsolete
Deity
I got another pvm from IndianSmoke:
replay the pvm:
1. our diplomats are waiting for the answer on their official email confirming a chat (we want the chat...)
2. they should tech construction, after that machinery sounds fine (we need construction)
we will give them all our techs, so they should do this for us (adding hbr)
obsolete
Deity
obsolete
Deity
I got another pvm. Seems they are going for Machinery nevertheless, they claim catapults are useless right now and insist it's better to go for maces and xbows...
So now what?
* Edit *
Ok, I'll stockpile gold for a few turns and then we can re-evaluate. I don't think Machinery is so bad. We have iron hooked up, so we know we can get a few X-Bows as well. I am waiting for them to give me an ETA on machinery now.
So now what?
* Edit *
Ok, I'll stockpile gold for a few turns and then we can re-evaluate. I don't think Machinery is so bad. We have iron hooked up, so we know we can get a few X-Bows as well. I am waiting for them to give me an ETA on machinery now.
obsolete
Deity
Another PVM by them...
ahmedhadzi
Relocation Consultant
I still didn't get any email via official sources, I guess it's up to you and pvm Obs.
we need these elephants. and we all need catapults. they are really acting stupid here.
if we have enough gold to research hbr, we should do this NOW. if not, we should stockpile gold untill we can do so (we always should research that way btw)
ok, let them go machinery, we go then hbr first, next construction. like that we can build stables in our cities right away. we will give them the techs ASAP once we have researched them.
obsolete
Deity
I think it is better we go Currency first, then we gift them gold to keep their sliders up to 100%.
obsolete
Deity
Another pvm...
Indiansmoke said:
Backwards Logic
Emperor Palpatine
Yea, CS really benefits the FIN guys if they have a heavily cottaged capital. It'd be okay for us with the gems, but we can't really kill people with money... There's clearly a lack of tech-philosophy going on between us two - we want to stifle one of them militarily on the mainland, they want to play break even with beakers to keep up technologically. CoL does nothing for us really so I see no point other than to cheapen how much CS will cost and I'm not sold CS is the best option given our situation. Currency I see a reason for though, so I could get behind a Currency/HBR/Construction route. If they want CS, they should take CS with their beakers, not have us burn one of our Great People to do it their way.
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