Unique Unit Elimination Thread

Kevin J said:
-Hoplite 9
-Panzer 3
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 23
-Chu-Ko-Nu 25
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 31
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17

I prefer early UUs. And the Janissary belongs to the Ottomans. Even a great UU is pointless to me if I don't play the civ!
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You subtracted four from Janissary - it's -2. Fixed for ya! (BTW, this isn't about the civ, it's about the UUs. )
 
Fixed my post - and it should be 32, not 31 - was 34 in Redrover's post. Somehow 2=4=5. It's the new math! And yeah, it's about the unit, not the civ ... but I don't like late UUs. And Janissaries have nothing to fear from my one measly vote - they appear to be the runaway winner!
 
-Hoplite 7 ................. -1
-Panzer 3
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 23
-Chu-Ko-Nu 25
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 32 .............. +1
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17
 
I can't believe the B-17 went out so soon. Two superb free upgrades on the second-strongest late-game unit that then upgrades to the first strongest? Guys, it's the Samurai factor - 30 experience points === double-siege, evasion, and x2 attacks per turn. <sigh>

The two Knight-based upgrades. Already been over this, Mandekalu and Naresan's are pretty close, but the clincher is that upgraded-Mandekalu's maintain their bonus, giving you tanks that can stomp cities.

-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 3
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 25
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 32
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17

Edit: note that someone (coughGearcough) accidentally removed Mandy's from the list for a while, their last value was 23 before my bump.
 
Hoplite 5 -Panzer 3
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 23
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 32
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17
 
Hoplite 7
-Panzer 3
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 31
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17

fixed due to extra vote by lord
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 23
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 32
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17
 
Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 21
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 33
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17

fixed due to extra vote by lord

ok, caught up to lyoncet
 
You could probably say "once per 24 hour period" is legal. It's hard to time your vote with when you get on the computer every day. No biggy. Two hours early != four times a day.
 
Continue MadDjinn #129,
my last vote 25.5. : 7:05 P.M , #49

-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22 ( + 1 )
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 26 ( -2 )
-Janissary 33
-Sipahi 16
-Musketeer 17

B 17, Panzer are coming late, but are strong UU's and would have seen B 17 middle tier as the panzer. Panzer will probably die, but jaguar and mohawk warrior , ballista I would see worse. However I can't think Samurai is a #2 UU, there base Unit is awesome, they are cool, they can have faster march + blitz, but not #2. Foreign Legion is the unit which I see better than somewhere in the middle at the moment...

edit : and maybe sparthage correct the values ... I'm little bit confused at the moment ...
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 23
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 26
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34 +1
-Sipahi 14 -2
-Musketeer 17

PS-- do legions get a strength bonus that I'm not remembering? Because I can't imagine why else they'd be getting positive votes rather than being amongst the first gone.
 
Legions do get a strength bonus. Though the Hoplite's increase is greater, they upgrade to less useful units.
 
legion are 13 base instead of 11 (and can build roads). they destroy early cities.
hoplites are 9 instead of 7... on the plus side your initial warrior can become a hoplite or immortal via ruin, which is always nice.
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 24
-Mohawk warrior 19
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34 +1
-Sipahi 14 -2
-Musketeer 17
 
Maybe it would be easier if posters just said what they deduct and what they add too and leave it up to the OP to tally it up rather than every individual keep track of it.

So, don't post the whole thing up and then show your additions / subtractions with the newly adjusted total. Instead, just make a post like: -2 Musketeer, +1Chu-Ko-Nu. Then let the OP sum it all up and update the original post.

(dont include my example in the results).
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 25 (+1)
-Mohawk Warrior 17 (-2)
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 14
-Musketeer 17

Played a game with the Songhai recently. Love their UU, lets you have a fast moving city-attacking line with high-up strength instead of a slower Longsword formation. That game, I literally did not lose a single unit until the second to last turn, because if they got too beat up I just ran them away.

On the other hand, the Mohawk Warrior UA is pfft. Yeah, they get Woodsman, but who cares? Forests are really situational. I'd much rather have a UU that can hold its own regardless of terrain. Legions would roll Mohawks 80% of the time.
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 1
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 17
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 14
-Musketeer 15
 
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