Civ Languages

Hello all! Viregel and I are working and conceptualizing an idea around, we're not going to announce it yet. Although it obviously has to do with language. So I'm just curious if you are a civ modder if you can list a couple of languages per modded civ so we'll be sure to include the language. (E.g for JFD's Normandy the languages might be Norman, French, and Jerriais).

I had a similar idea a long time ago, but multiple languages per civ?

It's because of the possibility of a civ like the Song Dynasty founding Mandarin, and then leaving China with none. So for instance China will get Cantonese and a couple of other languages.

Does this have to do with diplomacy being limited until you have a language in common with another civ, ala GalCiv?

Legui's Israel: Aramaic, Hebrew
Suckritact's Phoeniciahoenician, Aramic
Legui's Philistines: Hebrew, Aramaic
JFD's Carthage: Punic, Phoenician.
JFD's Belgium: French, Flemish
JFD's Flanders: Flemish(\Dutch), German
JFD's HRE: German, Italian, French

Hope this helped...

Interesting idea.

Not a modded civ, but I thought I might contribute anyway:

Siam: Standard Thai, Northern Thai, Isan

Thanks, these are all very helpful.

sukritact said:

Interesting idea.

Not a modded civ, but I thought I might contribute anyway:

Siam: Standard Thai, Northern Thai, Isan

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Hm... that makes me wonder. Would it actually be worth it to split a language in it's variants?

I mean, let's take Quechua for example. There's actually a Northern and Southern Quechua (fun fact! Most Quechua you hear in media is Northern Quechua, which is odd because the one spoken in Cuzco was Southern one), but would it be worth it to include both?

There's not that many civs that'd use Quechua, let alone 2.

Peru would use Quechua, along with Spanish and Aymara.

I'd throw the Mapuche there too, they didn't speak it much, but they had lots of contact with the Inca and related groups and given that Mapudungun is a language isolate, they could use some ways to connect to other civs.

Hoop Thrower said:

Hm... that makes me wonder. Would it actually be worth it to split a language in it's variants?

I mean, let's take Quechua for example. There's actually a Northern and Southern Quechua (fun fact! Most Quechua you hear in media is Northern Quechua, which is odd because the one spoken in Cuzco was Southern one), but would it be worth it to include both?

There's not that many civs that'd use Quechua, let alone 2.

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I think we should define it depend on what is language and dialect. Sometimes two different "dialect" is considered the "Northern" B and "Southern" B for political reason even "Northern" speaker can barely understand "Southern" language.

Poland and Poland-Lithuania: Polish, Ruthenian, Old Church Slavonic (this one as the "template" for most Slavic languages)

Ah, well, although I don't know what this is all about, might as well throw in the languages of my civs.

Switzerland - Swiss/High German, Swiss French, Swiss Italian, Romansch
Berbers - Arabic, Tuareg, Zenaga, Siwa, Mozabite, Tetserret, etc.
Harappans - Proto-Dravidian, Sanskrit (?)
Taiwan - Mandarin Chinese, Hokkien, Hakka
Minoans - Eteocretan
Inuit - Greenlandic, Inuinnaqtun, Inuktitut, Inupiatun, Inuvialuktun
Zapotecs - Zapotecan, Mixtecan, Amuzgoan, Tlapanecan, Trique
Georgia - Classical Old Georgian/Middle Georgian
Samanids - Persian (Probably Middle Dari or Tajiki), Arabic
Magyars - Old Hungarian, Ugric

If this mod will require civs to speak the same language to trade, this will make it mighty hard to do diplomacy with several of my civs.

JFDs Italy: Italian, Lombard, Sicilian
JFDs HRE: Hochdeutsche, Middeldeutsche, Plattdüütsch
JFDs Milan: Milanes, Lombard, Italian,
JFDs Novgorod: Russian, Novgorodian, Pomor
JFDs Peter I: Russian, French, Pomor
JFDs Papal States: Roman, Umbrian, Italian
JFDs Scotland: Scots, Gaelic, English
JFDs Switzerland: German, French, Italian
JFDs New Zealand: English, Maori, Samoan
JFDs Henry VIII and Elizabeth: English, French, Irish?
JFDs Louis XIV and Napoleon: French, Occitanian, Breton
JFDs Victoria: English, Hindi, Bengali
JFD and More Civs Oman: Arabic, Bahraini, Omani
JFDs Iceland: Icelandic, Old Norse, Norwegian
JFDs Anglo Saxons: Anglo-Saxon, Saxon, Proto-Germanic?
JFDs Sardinia Piedmont: Italian, Piedmontese, Sardinian
JFDs Lithuania: Lithuanian, White Russian, Ruthenian
JFDs Norway: Norwegian, Old Norse, Bokmal?
JFDs Muscovy: Russian, Muscovite, Tatar
More Civs Ayyubids: Arabic, Masri, Coptic
More Civs Buccaneers: Dutch, English, Spanish
More Civs Burma: Burmese, Shan, Karen
More Civs Gauls: Gallic, French, Occitanian
More Civs Kilwa: Swahili, Arabic, Omani
More Civs Mexico: Spanish, Nahuatl, Mayan
More Civs Minoa: Minoan, Ancient Greek, Greek
More Civs The Sami: Sami, Swedish, Norwegian
More Civs Scotland: Scots, Gaelic, English
More Civs Tibet: Tibetan, Khamese, Amdo
More Civs Tuscany: Italian, Tuscan, Florentine?
More Civs Chola: Tamil, Kannada, Sanskrit
More Civs Maratha: Marathi, Konkani, Sanskrit
More Civs Mauraya: Magadhi Prakrit, Sanskrit, Pali?
More Civs Mughals: Farsi, Urdu, Hindi

Ta Da (If anyone thinks these are wrong, pls call me out on it I'm not a linguist)

EDIT: For some reason assumed every civ needed 3 languages. Oh well, thats how it is now.

Sometimes - as in the case of Harappans and Minoans, we don't know enough about their language to list three. Then what?

Anyway, I'll start tackling Hiram's, because I like looking up languages (I hope there are no objections):

Bosnia - Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian
Chimor - Quingam, Mochicha, Sican
Cornwall - Cornish, English, Brythonic
Iceni - ???
Ireland - Irish, English, Yola
Kulin - Woiwurrung, Bunurong, Djadjawurrung
Latvia - Latvian, Latgalian, Livonian
Lithuania - Lithuanian, Ruthenian, Polish
Mitanni - Hurrian, ???
Nabataea - Nabataean, Aramaic, Arabic
Picts - Pictish, Gaelic, Cumbric (?)
Ryukyu - Okinawan, Anami, Miyako
Saba - Sabaean, Hadramitic, Qatabanian
Seleucids - Greek, Persian, Aramaic
Sibir - Baraba, Khanty, Mansi
Uyghur - Hakaniye (?), ???
Yakutia - Sakha, Dolgan, Tuvan

Hope I didn't miss any; grabbed them all from his front page.

Thanks, these are all very helpful.