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... not all Americans are jerks basking under their "own no-doubt stupendous" glory ; they actually read history .
human beings are imperfect . We are much given to futile senses and desires . In regard to an overwhelming urge to be the greatest when it comes to standing among each other . The Democracies of Europe -just as the 20th Century dawned- awash in money and comfort , influence and power , reality and fantasy with regards to capability , could look back at the Hundred years that almost passed since that shortish Corsican with genuine pride , only to find even more reason to be boastful about . The ride was good . So good that the ominious projections about the rise of new powers could be disregarded with remarkable ease ; so good that the exact same formula offered for a hundred years more . Many , far too many , people would like to re-arrange the landscape as their ancestors had done in 1815 . Not in the same exact mold , but the same exact spirit to keep going . Simply as an almost obvious example , simply because people would know it to be true that Winston Churchill would have liked to be at the table , making it happen , just giving order to world in the way he would have lusted after a woman .
see , 2014 follows 1914 only because there was a 1814 .
when Napoleon fell only to rise and fall again ; when the following destruction of the Spanish Colonial Empire did much to cement the idea of "The Atlantic" whereby the British Capitalism could be assured of only measured competition from North America and that in turn scared the Continental Europeans into even more submission into the indescribable reach and unmatchable might of the Royal Navy . Leading to India becoming the Jewel of the Crown and China humbled . The world maps were the testament to White Man's superiority simply because all White Men had to sing from the Hymn Book of the British who had the oceans . Oh the Atlantic , something a lot of otherwise smart brains tend to identify as infallible ; an adjective most people of Faith would associate only with God .
in 1914 there had to be a war , for there was to be real battles where men died and going through all that would take time and the troops could be home only by Christmas . And 1915 would see the rise of a new world , new yet old . Come 2015 and anyone that might have been fed up with the Brits running the world would only dirty their underwear involuntarily with a glimpse at the history books . And the glorious account how London simply made its enemies vanish in some "the Greatest Feat of Arms" ever . It had taken a hundred days to bring Napoleon to his knees , while the planning talked of 30 to knock the Ottomans of centuries .
and the French were not offended at the background offered as such in the prelude to Entente Cordiale , for from bitter experience they knew Britannia ruled the waves . If London brought its back into it , there could be nothing at all to destroy Germany and scare the Russians and intimidate the Americans and knock the caps from the Chinese heads . Or else . Else in the sense London might once again turn the head away as Prussians marched into Paris .
the feeling of power is intoxicating , such power as the British were displaying in 1900 or thereabouts is downright poisonous . Boers ? Got hemmed into Concentration Camps and the world saw how many ribs some blonde Afrikaneer girl under 10 would have on her deathbed . No doubt the photography of the day was not advanced enough to show the ribs of some black African girl whom the Afrikaneers themselves were starving but then this not the topic right now ...
at least back in the day , it seems historians have attributed a keen sense of foreisight to Admiral Fisher for he apparently deduced Germany would go to war as soon as they completed the Kiel Canal by late 1914 . Yeah , right is the correct answer to that ...
1914 was more a than a figure on the calendar ; it grew larger and larger .
it's more likely Fisher was all for pushing Berlin into war , before they actually finished the canal . To make maximum use of the British advantage on the Seas . Even if he had himself made it impossible for an early decisive clash by avoding a close blockade of the German shorelines ; to which Germans responded by staying in port . Going around in the North Sea while waiting for the RN to mass in massive numbers was not something German Admirals could bring themselves to do . Sailors were at least at "home" in Christmas ...
even if Fisher's fellow conspirator , Churchill is a bit more to blame . Not exactly his fault that London decided against waiting until Russians were supposed to complete their railroads to the Prussian borders ; 1916 was too late exactly , for the centennary of the fall of the Tyrant -that Corsican , the short dude ... The spell of the number 100 was too much to wait any longer , the pressure down in the nether regions was too hurting if you deign to remember the "would have lusted" line above in this post ... Lots of young and youngish men in London with unfallibility those days . However , Churchill's faults -though little misdemenours as they were- added into some colossal blunders . To be fair London ruled an empire that had large number of "Moslems" ; the planned total destruction of the Ottomans was sure to be problematical with public reaction from Egypt to Malaysia and perhaps it was "legal" for Churchill to push us into war . But then it was not 1910 anymore ... The Balkan Wars had utterly devastated the country , in the heady days of final days of the "Peace" it could have been possible to leave us aside for 1915 , the spectacular success against the Germans could have been justification enough for the Moslems to see Caliphate saved from the clutches of German spies and such , better known as Ittihad ve Terakki .
it was not to be . A certain kind of Turkish hysteria was already famous even then . Winston Churchill accepted the Ottoman purchase of an half finished Brazilian Dreadnought , continuation of contracts previously signed and did nothing to delay their construction while he might have done -with complete ease . The "lust" thing , Winston wanted us to beg . If not more ... With 1914 cast solid , with war coming , Churchill aimed for maximum effort . Waiting for the first ship to be complete with Turkish crew ready to sail and really rare in the annals of history that a ship to be taken over by the builder country in peacetime . With blood split . Churchill didn't get his satisfaction . We couldn't dare go to war ; even in the face of obvious piracy . With the expected Turkish idiocy not forthcoming London had to save face somewhat with offer of a 1000 pound Sterlings a day for the duration the ships were to remain in British service , on condition that the German Military Commission in Istanbul to be sacked and sent back to Germany . Couldn't happen with Enver in charge ; was to cover up the proceeding and get ahead in the blame game . Luckily real history doesn't report the even tastier stuff : In which the Brits would keep us paying 1000 pounds a day if we were to pay it first . An alternative to that has the idea that 1000 a day was on , if we paid back 100 a day to personal accounts . So , to meet the risk from Britain that was certainly out for blood , we had to pay real money to insult Germany . The only possible ally left to us .
still not enough for Churchill ; war was on and he wanted us in . The result would be ambigious orders to the RN with regards to Goeben and Breslau , with secret orders extremely explicit and the request to the Italian port authorities for all kinds of courtesies . The British Fleet lost the Germans on their way to Istanbul , but then what right did we have to expect any use from the naval might of London ? Sounds delusional ? With smoke seen where there is no fire ? Got to be a national characteristic . Don't know if Michael Bay reads CFC , but this pirate TV series of him and his colleagues has a Mr. Turk in some crew who thinks his captain is a vampire or some sort of demon under the control of witches and stuff and everybody has been laughing at him for years for such nonsense . No , ı don't watch it but was unaware that it had replaced Dexter for the 23.00-24.00 slot , a couple of months back ...
the power of Prediction , the confidence that arises from knowing that it has happened and will happen again ... You might be surprised if you trust that too much . Moriquendi changed the location of a city and founded two others ! One on my continent , some 10 tiles down my Southern borders ...
human beings are imperfect . We are much given to futile senses and desires . In regard to an overwhelming urge to be the greatest when it comes to standing among each other . The Democracies of Europe -just as the 20th Century dawned- awash in money and comfort , influence and power , reality and fantasy with regards to capability , could look back at the Hundred years that almost passed since that shortish Corsican with genuine pride , only to find even more reason to be boastful about . The ride was good . So good that the ominious projections about the rise of new powers could be disregarded with remarkable ease ; so good that the exact same formula offered for a hundred years more . Many , far too many , people would like to re-arrange the landscape as their ancestors had done in 1815 . Not in the same exact mold , but the same exact spirit to keep going . Simply as an almost obvious example , simply because people would know it to be true that Winston Churchill would have liked to be at the table , making it happen , just giving order to world in the way he would have lusted after a woman .
see , 2014 follows 1914 only because there was a 1814 .
when Napoleon fell only to rise and fall again ; when the following destruction of the Spanish Colonial Empire did much to cement the idea of "The Atlantic" whereby the British Capitalism could be assured of only measured competition from North America and that in turn scared the Continental Europeans into even more submission into the indescribable reach and unmatchable might of the Royal Navy . Leading to India becoming the Jewel of the Crown and China humbled . The world maps were the testament to White Man's superiority simply because all White Men had to sing from the Hymn Book of the British who had the oceans . Oh the Atlantic , something a lot of otherwise smart brains tend to identify as infallible ; an adjective most people of Faith would associate only with God .
in 1914 there had to be a war , for there was to be real battles where men died and going through all that would take time and the troops could be home only by Christmas . And 1915 would see the rise of a new world , new yet old . Come 2015 and anyone that might have been fed up with the Brits running the world would only dirty their underwear involuntarily with a glimpse at the history books . And the glorious account how London simply made its enemies vanish in some "the Greatest Feat of Arms" ever . It had taken a hundred days to bring Napoleon to his knees , while the planning talked of 30 to knock the Ottomans of centuries .
and the French were not offended at the background offered as such in the prelude to Entente Cordiale , for from bitter experience they knew Britannia ruled the waves . If London brought its back into it , there could be nothing at all to destroy Germany and scare the Russians and intimidate the Americans and knock the caps from the Chinese heads . Or else . Else in the sense London might once again turn the head away as Prussians marched into Paris .
the feeling of power is intoxicating , such power as the British were displaying in 1900 or thereabouts is downright poisonous . Boers ? Got hemmed into Concentration Camps and the world saw how many ribs some blonde Afrikaneer girl under 10 would have on her deathbed . No doubt the photography of the day was not advanced enough to show the ribs of some black African girl whom the Afrikaneers themselves were starving but then this not the topic right now ...
at least back in the day , it seems historians have attributed a keen sense of foreisight to Admiral Fisher for he apparently deduced Germany would go to war as soon as they completed the Kiel Canal by late 1914 . Yeah , right is the correct answer to that ...
1914 was more a than a figure on the calendar ; it grew larger and larger .
it's more likely Fisher was all for pushing Berlin into war , before they actually finished the canal . To make maximum use of the British advantage on the Seas . Even if he had himself made it impossible for an early decisive clash by avoding a close blockade of the German shorelines ; to which Germans responded by staying in port . Going around in the North Sea while waiting for the RN to mass in massive numbers was not something German Admirals could bring themselves to do . Sailors were at least at "home" in Christmas ...
even if Fisher's fellow conspirator , Churchill is a bit more to blame . Not exactly his fault that London decided against waiting until Russians were supposed to complete their railroads to the Prussian borders ; 1916 was too late exactly , for the centennary of the fall of the Tyrant -that Corsican , the short dude ... The spell of the number 100 was too much to wait any longer , the pressure down in the nether regions was too hurting if you deign to remember the "would have lusted" line above in this post ... Lots of young and youngish men in London with unfallibility those days . However , Churchill's faults -though little misdemenours as they were- added into some colossal blunders . To be fair London ruled an empire that had large number of "Moslems" ; the planned total destruction of the Ottomans was sure to be problematical with public reaction from Egypt to Malaysia and perhaps it was "legal" for Churchill to push us into war . But then it was not 1910 anymore ... The Balkan Wars had utterly devastated the country , in the heady days of final days of the "Peace" it could have been possible to leave us aside for 1915 , the spectacular success against the Germans could have been justification enough for the Moslems to see Caliphate saved from the clutches of German spies and such , better known as Ittihad ve Terakki .
it was not to be . A certain kind of Turkish hysteria was already famous even then . Winston Churchill accepted the Ottoman purchase of an half finished Brazilian Dreadnought , continuation of contracts previously signed and did nothing to delay their construction while he might have done -with complete ease . The "lust" thing , Winston wanted us to beg . If not more ... With 1914 cast solid , with war coming , Churchill aimed for maximum effort . Waiting for the first ship to be complete with Turkish crew ready to sail and really rare in the annals of history that a ship to be taken over by the builder country in peacetime . With blood split . Churchill didn't get his satisfaction . We couldn't dare go to war ; even in the face of obvious piracy . With the expected Turkish idiocy not forthcoming London had to save face somewhat with offer of a 1000 pound Sterlings a day for the duration the ships were to remain in British service , on condition that the German Military Commission in Istanbul to be sacked and sent back to Germany . Couldn't happen with Enver in charge ; was to cover up the proceeding and get ahead in the blame game . Luckily real history doesn't report the even tastier stuff : In which the Brits would keep us paying 1000 pounds a day if we were to pay it first . An alternative to that has the idea that 1000 a day was on , if we paid back 100 a day to personal accounts . So , to meet the risk from Britain that was certainly out for blood , we had to pay real money to insult Germany . The only possible ally left to us .
still not enough for Churchill ; war was on and he wanted us in . The result would be ambigious orders to the RN with regards to Goeben and Breslau , with secret orders extremely explicit and the request to the Italian port authorities for all kinds of courtesies . The British Fleet lost the Germans on their way to Istanbul , but then what right did we have to expect any use from the naval might of London ? Sounds delusional ? With smoke seen where there is no fire ? Got to be a national characteristic . Don't know if Michael Bay reads CFC , but this pirate TV series of him and his colleagues has a Mr. Turk in some crew who thinks his captain is a vampire or some sort of demon under the control of witches and stuff and everybody has been laughing at him for years for such nonsense . No , ı don't watch it but was unaware that it had replaced Dexter for the 23.00-24.00 slot , a couple of months back ...
the power of Prediction , the confidence that arises from knowing that it has happened and will happen again ... You might be surprised if you trust that too much . Moriquendi changed the location of a city and founded two others ! One on my continent , some 10 tiles down my Southern borders ...