Against the grey

I agree with the above posters that it was very easy. I played on my normal level (emperor) and despite how easy it is, I almost lost! Yes, I messed up but got lucky.

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My first goal after scouting around a bit was to try to see where to settle and make a link between my two cities. I realized there was the problem of a Sidar city in the way (how rude of them!). I also was shocked to see the Sidar building so many cities.

I probably could win this by sitting back and building Chalid and then just killing everything, but I pretended I really wanted to play this 'right'.

My city in the south became very powerful with a good economy; in the north I had good hammers. I was building settlers and escorts along with workers. The Sidar weren't very aggressive. I got a great commander, and attached it to my camel archer, along with Decius from the beginning; these were my 'strike force'.

I didn't get any metals, so I was building the camel archers as my main attack unit. This saved me later because of their speed. I got a great engineer and built 'Form of the Titan'.

My 'problem' was that I was playing as though it were a 'real' FfH game, not a duel - clearly I should have just pumped out military units. For instance, I built the Great Library (why did I?) I got enough units to capture the Sidar city, and I finished a road and cities linking my starting cities. I got a ranger to clear out the animals in the north.

The Sidar city I captured ws garrisoned with about 8 units, including my now highly ranked starting units and my two units with commanders, my horse archer with Decius ws level 8 or something.


And the Sidar finally came with their SoD. It probably had about 11 units; many had city raiders; This shouldn't be a problem, but I don't have defensive troops, I 'm hoping I can hit the city raiders on the defensive.

I went to attack the top unit, and my rank 8 horse archer had about a 20% chance and a 20% retreat! What is going on - oh, it is Rathus! I considered the 'run away and wait until I build Chalid' strategy, but I decided to attack! I got lucky -- I won the combat, and Rathus retreated. Even so, only 3 units survived (my originally Fyrdwell, my horse archer, the monk). I did kill Rathus in a few turns and in top of this being lcuky, I got the nether blade.

I know I had now won the game. Since I built up my infrastructure, I now had a stronger economy, more troops, etc. To be sporting I probably should have played without Chalid, but I did finish him (Ok, I'm not sporting). I acutally survived one more SoD but this wasn't nearly as dangerous and the rest was mop -up; it was now more about logistics than actual combat.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
I was pretty disappointed in this scenario, but it did have potential. First of all for what was essentially the concluding scenario of the Decius story it was pretty weak. I didn't quite understand what it was all about. I thought the map was well done although it was probably the smallest of the maps I've seen in the scenarios. I like the idea of all the chokepoints but the Sidar and Calabim were not aggressive enough. I rendered them fairly impotent early on and then grinded out an easy victory in less than 200 turns. I liked the idea of splitting the army up but the map was just too small. could have been better
 
So, has anyone else noticed that, playing as the Malakim, the Calabim are just way too easy? I mean there's sposed to be powerful & a big threat. But they're way too easy to destroy in both this & the preceding 2 scenarios. I'm very disappointed. Way too easy, I don't like it.
 
I'm having a problem with this one.

Playing as the Malakim; I end turn on turn 1 (so the second turn, the first being 0), and it goes to 'Waiting for other Civilizations' as usual, and never comes back from that. I can access the main menu or look at the Civlopedia but it never becomes my turn again.

Attached is a save right before that. Any ideas?

Skip that; realized I was one patch back from current and that fixed my problem.
 

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I am having the same problem as Hartastic. When I hit turn 2 the game locks on "Waiting for Other Players". I am using the latest patch and so I am not sure what is causing this to occur. Help please! :O
 
I am having the same problem as Hartastic. When I hit turn 2 the game locks on "Waiting for Other Players". I am using the latest patch and so I am not sure what is causing this to occur. Help please! :O

Send a save game from the turn before the crash and I'll take a look.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
I'm having the same problem that Harcastic and Feyd Ruatha mentioned, except that I'm using the most current version of the game and restarting doesn't help (I've tried four or five times). Here's a savegame from just before the game freezes. Thanks for any help; I find Decius's story really interesting and I'd like to see what happens in this installment. :)
 

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I'm having the same problem that Harcastic and Feyd Ruatha mentioned, except that I'm using the most current version of the game and restarting doesn't help (I've tried four or five times). Here's a savegame from just before the game freezes. Thanks for any help; I find Decius's story really interesting and I'd like to see what happens in this installment. :)

I can't open the attachment. I suspect you have an old patch. A LOT of WoC's and CtD's were fixed, so I woudl recommend updating tot he latest patch.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
I suspect you have an old patch.
Possibly; I'm not as savvy with Civ4 as with games I'd mod myself. I am patched up to BtS version 3.19 and FfH2 version 0.41n. Is one (or both) of these out of date? If so, please tell me where to get an update, because those versions were the ones I found when I was looking for the most recent ones.

Thanks again. :)
 
Possibly; I'm not as savvy with Civ4 as with games I'd mod myself. I am patched up to BtS version 3.19 and FfH2 version 0.41n. Is one (or both) of these out of date? If so, please tell me where to get an update, because those versions were the ones I found when I was looking for the most recent ones.

Thanks again. :)

Yes, we are on patch o now, almost certainly the last one ever. You can find the latest patch listed on the first page of the 'stickied' bug thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=308020


Best wishes,

Breunor
 
Sorry, I managed to find patch o but then my browser started acting strangely and I couldn't edit my post to tell you (or, for that matter, download the patch). But thanks a bunch. I'm downloading it now; once I get it installed I'll let you know if that fixes the problem. :)
 
Well, I restarted the game after I installed patch o and still have the same problem. Once I restarted my computer and tried again, though, it worked fine. Thanks for the help! Now to take those Sidar cities...
 
I'm having the same problem that Harcastic and Feyd Ruatha mentioned, except that I'm using the most current version of the game and restarting doesn't help (I've tried four or five times). Here's a savegame from just before the game freezes. Thanks for any help; I find Decius's story really interesting and I'd like to see what happens in this installment. :)

i realize i am 5 years late but is there any way to fix this?
 
i may just be speaking to myself here, but i did tests on the endless turn 2 glitch. it is a problem with the sidar, ad i have done world builder to delete units of calabim and barbarian and sidar in turn. i deleted the units not carrying a flag, probably invisible, and got to turn 3. then restarted and was able to pass turn 2 without entering world builder at all. if you have trouble, just dick around in world builder since just deleting all enemies wont grant you victory for some reason.
 
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