Order, Autocracy or Freedom?

kaspergm · Oct 1, 2012

Skibbi said:
Lets say you have 4 Uranium, that's 2 missiles or 4 bombs, with Fascism it is 4 missiles or 8 bombs. Also, if you had 7 uranium, you can build 7 modern armours or with Fascism, 14 modern armours!
Big difference, especially in multiplayer!

Apart from the fact that I asume you mean Aluminum with regard to Modern Armors, I think the point he wanted to make is that when you have a wide empire, you normally will not have only 7 Aluminum or 4 Uranium, but rather something like 30 Aluminum and 16 Uranium, and while it is arguably true that you can't get too much Aluminum, I generally don't find it an issue when I play wide.

smallfish · Oct 1, 2012

kaspergm said:
Apart from the fact that I asume you mean Aluminum with regard to Modern Armors, I think the point he wanted to make is that when you have a wide empire, you normally will not have only 7 Aluminum or 4 Uranium, but rather something like 30 Aluminum and 16 Uranium, and while it is arguably true that you can't get too much Aluminum, I generally don't find it an issue when I play wide.

16 uranium without Autocracy? Extremely rare.

smallfish · Oct 1, 2012

The 20% attack bonus finisher for Autocracy is great stuff, btw - like, despite being non-promoted, my submarines can take out every other kind of modern warships the runaway Mongols were fielding. Sure it only lasts 30 turns, but there's a lot one can do in that amount of time.

kaspergm · Oct 1, 2012

Whatever, the numbers weren't exactly supposed to be taken that literally, point was that when you are playing Warmonger you'll generally also have a wide empire and therefore many resources.

Solipsism · Oct 1, 2012

In competitive MP I tend to go autocracy. Good both for having a small effective elite force and for maintaining total war.

Sure the economical boosts of order is nice, but cap a city or two and you are there.

smallfish · Oct 1, 2012

kaspergm said:
Whatever, the numbers weren't exactly supposed to be taken that literally, point was that when you are playing Warmonger you'll generally also have a wide empire and therefore many resources.

Like having a wide continent of... 3 iron. Or 12 oil and 10 aluminum, no uranium...

Not going to do a lot against runaway Mongols like in this current game of mine :lol:

comatosedragon · Oct 1, 2012

I chose freedom. In fact, I only ever once picked Autocracy in a game, and that was just to get the achievemnent for unlocking all social policies. And that was a loooooongtime ago. Late game warfare is just so tedious for me. I probably pick Freedom 3 to 1 over Order, regardless of what other civs pick as their late game policies.

bcaiko · Oct 1, 2012

Wow, I'm a little surprised to see so many people chose Order (as did I). The SP certainly has improved post-G&K.

I often play as Japan, usually going for a domination victory, and since some Autocracy policies don't stack with Bushido, I've never seen a good reason to waste my SPs on it.

theguy8882 · Oct 1, 2012

I generally play wide and a lot of times I stop conquest late game so order becomes more useful. I also go for a science victory a lot and the bonus science from factories is awesome

Order, Autocracy or Freedom?

Favourite Policy?

Freedom - Culture

Order - Production

Autocracy - War

kaspergm

Deity

smallfish

Immortal

smallfish

Immortal

kaspergm

Deity

Solipsism

Chieftain

smallfish

Immortal

comatosedragon

Emperor

bcaiko

Emperor

theguy8882

Warlord

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