GrandAdmiral
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No it's not. You can use it to milk achievements, but if you're trying to improve your skills, it's a crutch.
france gets slept on at higher levels
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No it's not. You can use it to milk achievements, but if you're trying to improve your skills, it's a crutch.
NotSure
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I also second (or third) this sentiment. Every civ that gets a solid per city bonus (Persia, France, Carthage on a water-heavy map, etc., etc.) is probably better off expanding as much as possible. Tradition is the flavor of the month I guess.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I disagree with this. Otherwise, they wouldn't have removed the option as the default. Although the real problem was saving it until after Cristo Redentor.
BTW, I agree with those who go Liberty and REX. The benefit of France comes from the culture per city offsetting the expansion penalty.
Udey1
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This isn't default anymore for a reason. Checking it removes a time element that is now meant to be part of the stock game.
mitsukaikira
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If anything were "meant to be part of the stock game", there wouldn't be an option.
Furycrab
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This works if you plan on playing an aggressive France.
Having to take extra policies elsewhere before the Renaissance, is only really a problem if you are going for minimalistic culture in favor of science. Something that France just doesn't do since if you get monuments on top of that, you are miles ahead of anyone else in culture.
With the patch having 1-2 extra policies in say patronage won't be terrible for those civs that do get extra culture early but do want to go rationalism quick.
ScantilyCladLad
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i think u get better CPT from the tradition than a 6+ city liberty approach, this helps with science later.
you pretty much end up wide anyway after you start puppetting with cannons or artillery
chazzycat
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you have a point that the Mayans are really good for this approach too. But that doesn't mean France should go tradition. being able to rapidly expand while still getting policies in a reasonable time frame gives them an advantage over every single other civ.
it requires more skill to get the most out of France's UA. You can't just spam UBs, you have to plan ahead to make the most out of getting a few policies earlier. But the potential is there if you have the skills (and the map).
it requires more skill to get the most out of France's UA. You can't just spam UBs, you have to plan ahead to make the most out of getting a few policies earlier. But the potential is there if you have the skills (and the map).
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Except they didn't want to piss off people who relied on it. They decided it made for a cheesier game and that the consequences for having to wait to use a policy certainly did not outweigh the benefits, but they left it in for those who didn't like the change. It's not meant to be part of the stock game, it's meant to be an option, just like modding is (but modding, at the time, wouldn't let you do that).
