CiV.1.DOS. | Scenario / Savegame: EARTH 2

GoldBerg · Jan 28, 2006

Pikachu said:
Darn, you should put in a reminder that we have to remember to save the game just before we win or loose

should be obvious.
i (had) a huge thread about this subject
because i did mention it ~1.000 times there
so i did forget to mention it HERE.

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Pikachu said:
What are the GOTQ rules anyway?

i did ask the users here and there were no answer...?

1. highest number of english 'people' in 1750 AD
or
2. highest score at SpaceShip at Alpha Centauri
or
3. highest percentage of civilization at * ever*???

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me myself & i (but who am i ?

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would suggest (to make it suitable for EVERYONE...)
the highest number of ENGLiSH (your tribe) people in 1750 (or 1900?)
that's difficult, but possible to everyone here (i hope :crazyeye:

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Pikachu said:
Can I play the game once more and use my save game from my second try in the competition?

you can do whatever you like at home alone.

(but) if you post savegame files HERE,
these savegames 'might be reviewed/seen'

(by the overwhelming number of ... here ... ah -
'who look at those savegames'...)

and everybody may post a list
(in case i'd die before somebody attach savegames here... :sad:

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player A - 5.000.000 english people in 1750 AD
player B - 3.500.000 english people in 1750 AD
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and so on...?
...
(i think) it's o.k.
to post better results as much as you like
if you did score better (inbetween).

Pikachu · Jan 28, 2006

GoldBerg said:
should be obvious.

Obvious, yes, but still easy to forget. At least I forgot it

i don't know.
i did ask the users here and there were no answer...?

i did ask for:
1. highest number of english 'people' in 1750 AD
or
2. highest score at SpaceShip at Alpha Centauri
or
3. highest percentage of civilization at * ever*???

or... or... or...

NO ANSWER.

You are too democratic. This is your GOTQ. You decide the rules

Ill post my thought about this in the other thread.

me myself & i (but who am i ? )

You are the GOTQ king, so just make up your mind and your humble subjects shall follow your commands :king:

would suggest (to make it suitable for EVERYONE...)
the highest number of ENGLiSH (your tribe) people in 1750 (or 1900?)
that's difficult, but possible to everyone here (i hope )

I think the highest number of English people at a specific date (edit: date in the game of course, not real life date) is a good objective, but I think 1750 is too late. I won the game in 1500 and then I wasted a lot of time on building a full spaceship. Playing for the highest possible population by 1750 would mean a lot of (boring) milking for me, and I know there are people here that are a lot better players than me. Playing that long must be like torture for them. I would prefer if you could set the end date a lot earlier. Maybe about 1000 AD or something?

(i think) it's o.k.
to post better results as much as you like
if you did score better (inbetween).

Do you mean that I can play the game again and again and post the results from my best try here?
(Im sorry, but I need to get everything in with a teaspoon :yeah:

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Pikachu · Jan 30, 2006

OK, I have played the game again, all the way to 1750 this time. My score is 44 140 000 English citizen in 1750.

I had a slow start this time. I spent too many resources on defending my aspiring empire. A total waste of course as no enemies were around from when I conquered France in 2800 BC until some Zulus showed up in 740 BC. Those Zulus were fierce warriors though. They destroyed my superior forces and before I cared to build enough new troops they had destroyed Hastings, captured Exeter and then destroyed Exeter after I had liberated it. Ouch!

After that I got the situation under control, and after a while I conquered and colonized all of Africa, Mongolia and South America. I tried to conquer North America too, but the Americans had riflemen and city walls, so I lost the heroes from the South American campaign there. Then I decided to postpone the invasion and concentrate on developing Africa and Mongolia instead. The rest of the game I mostly spent on giving irrigation and build road/railroad commands. But I didn’t do it efficiently. And finally the timing for the final ‘We Love The President’ boom was a total failure. Oh well, I have still a lot to learn about this game, I guess.

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

Pikachu said:
OK, I have played the game again, all the way to 1750 this time. My score is 44 140 000 English citizen in 1750.

Wow.

Pikachu said:
I had a slow start this time. I spent too many resources on defending my aspiring empire. A total waste of course as no enemies were around from when I conquered France in 2800 BC until some Zulus showed up in 740 BC. Those Zulus were fierce warriors though. They destroyed my superior forces and before I cared to build enough new troops they had destroyed Hastings, captured Exeter and then destroyed Exeter after I had liberated it. Ouch!

that's was (my) whole idea behind of playing such a contest
NOT at PRINCE level -
better EMPEREOR ( my first GOTM / GOTQ was in EMPEREOR )

i expect that people play it

- SAVEGAME CHEATiNG
- SHiFT-56 (open map with civ.exe 474.01)
- SETTLER CHEATiNG
- TERRAFORM CHEATiNG
- CiV$ CHEATiNG

all cheats here >>> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3447751#post3447751

in any way
it would be hard
to get 44.000.000 people out of this -
this is pure gameplay/work,
even if 'you' (no, not YOU - of course...

) cheat...

...i think these results are the end of this GOTQ? :sad:

(see >>> replay.txt

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    .....    ........   .......       ..             ......... ..... ...        
  ..........     .....   .....       .*Cambridge    .....................       
 ............. ....  .   ...        .. ..        . .......................      
    .*Buffalo. ..... .  ...            ...     . ....*Minsk..............*Yakuts
     .........   ..     ..    ..     .....   ................    .  .*Tblisi    
    ..........   ....          .*Birmingham .................           ..      
    ....*Chicago.....         .... ....*Reading..............   .       ..      
    .......   . .....         ...    . ..   *Mos*Len*Kievd...  .....     *Sverdl
    ......... .......         .*London ..   .................  ......           
   ........*New*Bost*St.Louis...  .*York..   .................  *Sevastopol     
   .*Atlanta.......         *Coventry....*Oxford .*Vlad*Smo*Odessa...*Berlin    
  ...............               .+Paris...           .  ...............  .      
  ......*Philadelphia         .............       .     .............    ..     
  ..........*Washington     ....*Nottingham. .   ..      .. .  ....      ..     
  .     .... .              ..+Orleans........  .*Samarkand      ..     ..      
           .               .*Dover  *Live*Brighton....  .. .            .       
     ..    .                       ...     ...*Exeter*Bokhar*Turin              
    ...                            .        .....   ..................          
    .*Tenochtitlan                          .....    .................          
      ...    ...             ...       *Naples..     ....*Nishapu*Tabriz        
     ....                   *Sidon........   *Hastings.......*Kashgar*Utica     
       ..*Issus             .......*Cremona  ....*Canterbury  ..........        
        ... .*Tarsus       ..............*Ngome...     ....   ....     ....     
        .........          ................     .      ..*Karakor*Capua *Damascu
      .   ........*Cannae  .................           ....      ..   .  .      
         ...........        *Tyre*Swazi.....            ..           ..  .      
         .*Cunaxa....        .... ...*Int*Bapedi        .      .   .....    .   
          .....*Verona             ........ ...                ..........  ..   
           .........*Crete         ........ ...                 ..  . ...  ...  
           ...........             .........*Mpondo              .           .. 
            ..........              .*Hlobane                   ...         ..  
           .*Geno*Lisbon            .........                     .       ...   
             .........               ........                          ........ 
             ........                .....*Ulundi                      .......  
              .......                .*I+Umtataana                  ........... 
             ......*Hamburg          .......   ..                  ............ 
              *Salamis                ......  ..                   ............ 
               ....                   ....*Zimbabwe                ............ 
               ...                     ....   .                    ............ 
               ...                     ....                       .... .......  
                .                      *Tugela                       .  .....   
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           .      .  .  .     .    .    ...  . .  .           .   . .  .     .  
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4000 BC: Russians found the city of Moscow
4000 BC: Zulus found the city of Zimbabwe
4000 BC: French found the city of Paris
4000 BC: Aztecs found the city of Tenochtitlan
4000 BC: Americans found the city of Washington
4000 BC: Mongols found the city of Samarkand
3920 BC: Americans produce first Militia
3860 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ALPHABET
3800 BC: Russians produce first Phalanx
3780 BC: Aztecs discover MapMaking
3740 BC: French discover Ceremonial Burial
3740 BC: Mongols discover Pottery
3560 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3540 BC: Zulus produce first Settlers
3520 BC: Aztecs discover Bronze Working
3480 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF COVENTRY
3420 BC: Zulus found the city of Ulundi
3380 BC: French found the city of Orleans
3380 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3220 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM
3140 BC: Aztecs discover Masonry
3140 BC: Americans found the city of New York
3140 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST TRIREME
3100 BC: Americans discover Mathematics
3060 BC: Americans found the city of Boston
3040 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MONARCHY
3000 BC: ENGLISH: 3 CITIES; 100,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:French 3:Zulus 4:Aztecs 5:Mongols 6:Americans 7:Russians 
3000 BC: Russians found the city of Leningrad
2980 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST CHARIOT
2960 BC: ENGLISH FORM MONARCHY
2940 BC: Zulus found the city of Bapedi
2900 BC: English make peace with French
2900 BC: Mongols found the city of Bokhara
2880 BC: Americans found the city of Philadelphia
2860 BC: Americans discover Horseback Riding
2840 BC: English declare war on French
2840 BC: Paris destroyed
2820 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER IRON WORKING
2800 BC: Orleans destroyed
2800 BC: French civilization destroyed by English
2780 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
2760 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CURRENCY
2680 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF DOVER
2680 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
2600 BC: Americans found the city of Atlanta
2600 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER TRADE
2540 BC: Zulus found the city of Hlobane
2460 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MYSTICISM
2420 BC: Russians produce first Legion
2400 BC: Mongols found the city of Nishapur
2400 BC: Aztecs build the Lighthouse
2340 BC: Americans form Monarchy
2340 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NOTTINGHAM
2320 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER WRITING
2320 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF YORK
2280 BC: Zulus found the city of Isandhlwana
2280 BC: Mongols found the city of Karakorum
2160 BC: Russians found the city of Kiev
2100 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF LIVERPOOL
2080 BC: Americans discover Feudalism
2060 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER LITERACY
2040 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BRIGHTON
2000 BC: ENGLISH: 8 CITIES; 490,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Zulus 4:Mongols 5:Russians 6:Aztecs 7:Germans 
1940 BC: Americans found the city of Chicago
1940 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
1880 BC: Zulus found the city of Intombe
1880 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
1820 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MEDICINE
1800 BC: Zulus form Monarchy
1740 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF OXFORD
1700 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER RELIGION
1680 BC: Russians produce first Cavalry
1680 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF READING
1660 BC: Russians found the city of Minsk
1660 BC: Americans found the city of Buffalo
1640 BC: Americans discover Chivalry
1600 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF EXETER
1560 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CAMBRIDGE
1560 BC: Mongols produce first Catapult
1460 BC: Americans build the Colossus
1420 BC: Aztecs build the Pyramids
1360 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF HASTINGS
1300 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
1280 BC: Zulus found the city of Mpondo
1280 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CANTERBURY
1240 BC: Mongols found the city of Kashgar
1220 BC: Americans produce first Knights
1200 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
1180 BC: ENGLISH BUILD SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE
1120 BC: ENGLISH FORM DEMOCRATIC
1080 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER NAVIGATION
1020 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
1000 BC: ENGLISH: 14 CITIES; 1,240,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Zulus 4:Russians 5:Mongols 6:Aztecs 7:Germans 
1000 BC: Americans discover The Republic
960 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER PHYSICS
900 BC: Zulus capture Karakorum
900 BC: Americans form Republic
900 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MAGNETISM
880 BC: ENGLISH BUILD J.S.BACH'S CATHEDRAL
840 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ENGINEERING
840 BC: Mongols found the city of Tabriz
780 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER INVENTION
720 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
700 BC: ENGLISH BUILD MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL
700 BC: Mongols capture Karakorum
680 BC: Zulus found the city of Ngome
680 BC: Hastings destroyed
660 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER RAILROAD
620 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BANBURY
620 BC: Mongols form Monarchy
600 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
560 BC: ENGLISH BUILD MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION
540 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
520 BC: Russians found the city of Smolensk
520 BC: Zulus produce first Sail
480 BC: Americans discover Banking
480 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER METALLURGY
480 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST MUSKETEERS
480 BC: Zulus build Copernicus' Observatory
460 BC: Banbury destroyed
400 BC: Mongols make peace with Zulus
380 BC: Zulus capture Exeter
380 BC: ENGLISH BUILD DARWIN'S VOYAGE
380 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
380 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
360 BC: Zulus produce first Diplomat
360 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST FRIGATE
340 BC: Zulus found the city of Swazi
340 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
300 BC: Russians capture Berlin
300 BC: German civilization destroyed by Russians
280 BC: ENGLISH CAPTURE EXETER
280 BC: Exeter destroyed
200 BC: ENGLISH BUILD ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE
180 BC: Zulus produce first Cannon
160 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CONSCRIPTION
140 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST RIFLEMEN
80 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
60 BC: English make peace with Russians
20 BC: Russians form Monarchy
20 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER STEEL
20 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE
0 AD: ENGLISH: 12 CITIES; 3,320,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Zulus 4:Mongols 5:Russians 6:Aztecs 
60 AD: Aztecs make peace with Americans
60 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF MECCA
80 AD: Russians found the city of Odessa
160 AD: Americans declare war on Aztecs
160 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
180 AD: Mongols make peace with Russians
220 AD: Zulus build the Great Wall
240 AD: Russians build the Oracle
260 AD: Russians found the city of Sevastopol
260 AD: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST TRANSPORT
280 AD: Americans discover Atomic Theory
320 AD: Zulus found the city of Tugela
340 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER REFINING
380 AD: Americans make peace with Aztecs
380 AD: Americans found the city of St.Louis
460 AD: Zulus declare war on Mongols
480 AD: Mongols declare war on Russians
500 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER COMBUSTION
500 AD: Americans build the Great Library
560 AD: Mongols make peace with Russians
580 AD: English make peace with Russians
780 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER AUTOMOBILE
880 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER FLIGHT
920 AD: Mongols build the Hanging Gardens
940 AD: Russians found the city of Tblisi
980 AD: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST ARMOR
1000 AD: ENGLISH: 14 CITIES; 8,280,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Zulus 4:Mongols 5:Russians 6:Aztecs 
1000 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER MASS PRODUCTION
1010 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1060 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER RECYCLING
1090 AD: Americans form Republic
1100 AD: Russians found the city of Sverdlovsk
1100 AD: Americans produce first Ironclad
1100 AD: Mongols make peace with Zulus
1110 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER GENETIC ENGINEERING
1110 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE NGOME
1160 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER NUCLEAR FISSION
1160 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE BAPEDI
1170 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1210 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER COMMUNISM
1250 AD: Americans form Republic
1260 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER LABOR UNION
1260 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE INTOMBE
1300 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE MPONDO
1300 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE SWAZI
1310 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
1320 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE ULUNDI
1330 AD: Zulus found the city of Umtata
1330 AD: Umtata destroyed
1330 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE HLOBANE
1340 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE ISANDHLWANA
1350 AD: ENGLISH BUILD WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE
1350 AD: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST CRUISER
1350 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
1350 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE SWAZI
1350 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE ZIMBABWE
1360 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE TUGELA
1360 AD: Zulu civilization destroyed by English
1380 AD: Mongols declare war on Russians
1390 AD: Russians found the city of Yakutsk
1400 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE SAMARKAND
1420 AD: Russians make peace with Mongols
1420 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE BOKHARA
1440 AD: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST BATTLESHIP
1440 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE NISHAPUR
1450 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1450 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE KARAKORUM
1460 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE TABRIZ
1470 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NAPLES
1470 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE KASHGAR
1470 AD: Mongol civilization destroyed by English
1490 AD: Americans form Republic
1500 AD: ENGLISH: 31 CITIES; 19,460,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Russians 4:Aztecs 
1505 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF SIDON
1510 AD: Russians found the city of Vladivostok
1525 AD: ENGLISH CAPTURE TENOCHTITLAN
1525 AD: Aztec civilization destroyed by English
1535 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1535 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF TYRE
1555 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF TARSUS
1555 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF ISSUS
1575 AD: Americans form Republic
1575 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CUNAXA
1580 AD: ENGLISH FORM ANARCHY
1580 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CREMONA
1600 AD: ENGLISH BUILD CURE FOR CANCER
1600 AD: ENGLISH FORM DEMOCRATIC
1605 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CANNAE
1620 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CAPUA
1625 AD: Americans discover Electronics
1625 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1625 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF TURIN
1630 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF GENOA
1630 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF UTICA
1635 AD: Russians form Republic
1635 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CRETE
1640 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER COMPUTERS
1645 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF DAMASCUS
1650 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER ROCKETRY
1655 AD: Americans form Republic
1655 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER NUCLEAR POWER
1655 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF VERONA
1665 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
1670 AD: ENGLISH BUILD HOOVER DAM
1675 AD: Russians form Monarchy
1675 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER PLASTICS
1680 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER ROBOTICS
1685 AD: ENGLISH BUILD SETI PROGRAM
1690 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER SUPERCONDUCTOR
1695 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER FUSION POWER
1700 AD: ENGLISH DISCOVER FUTURE TECH.
1700 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF SALAMIS
1705 AD: Americans form Monarchy
1710 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF LISBON
1715 AD: Russians form Republic
1715 AD: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST ARTILLERY
1720 AD: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF HAMBURG
1735 AD: Americans form Republic
1745 AD: Americans produce first Submarine
1745 AD: English make peace with Russians
1750 AD: ENGLISH: 49 CITIES; 40,470,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Russians [/SIZE]

SEE SCORE TABLE
in GOTQ Thread start (here) >>>
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3447655#post3447655

Pikachu · Jan 31, 2006

GoldBerg said:
that's was (my) whole idea behind of playing such a contest
NOT at PRINCE level -
better EMPEREOR ( my first GOTM / GOTQ was in EMPEREOR )

I agree. Emperor (or King) would be more fun. The prince game became very boring in the end.

in any way
it would be hard
to get 44.000.000 people out of this -
this is pure gameplay/work,
even if 'you' (no, not YOU - of course... ) cheat...

It is not hard at all. I expect that everybody who tries to beat me will be able to do so. It is only prince level after all. But of course it is a lot of work even without cheating.

...i think these results are the end of this GOTQ?

No it is the beginning of this GOTQ! Other posters have promised to play it already. One has submitted results in the other thread too. Nobody appears to play by the same rules, though.

I suggest that you change the rules to make it more interesting. Playing a prince game until 1750 was quite dull. And of course we could need some more confusion here

(see >>> replay.txt

How did you get the replay file?

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

Pikachu said:
... ...
It is not hard at all. I expect that everybody who tries to beat me will be able to do so. It is only prince level after all. But of course it is a lot of work even without cheating.

i doubt anybody here will do better.

Pikachu said:
... ...I suggest that you change the rules to make it more interesting. Playing a prince game until 1750 was quite dull. And of course we could need some more confusion here

NO.
1750 AD and maximum number of english citizens is good (it's a little more tricky)
same number of citizens = the SCORE / PERCENTAGE make the difference.

Pikachu said:
... ...
How did you get the replay file?

civ.exe 474.01 shift 5-6 cheat offers a lot.

Code:

F8 shows you the powergraph 
and allows to you lock all replay functions up to that point.

see cheat-list >>>
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3447751#post3447751

SCORE TABLE / Hall Of Fame

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RANK  CivDOS.Fanatic - Game Date - # of PEOPLE - SCORE /    %     DATE

 01   Pikachu          1750 AD      40,470,000    1072 /  64%     Jan 30, 2006
 02   ???              #### AD      ##.###.###     ### /   #%     ???

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3646201#post3646201 01 Pikachu

Alex Johnson · Jan 31, 2006

GoldBerg, don't give up. I will play this weekend. At least I promise to start! Take a look in the GOTM discussion thread. I have posted something relevant about rules.

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

Alex Johnson said:
GoldBerg, don't give up. I will play this weekend. At least I promise to start! ... ...

don't make promises you won't keep. :lol:

Pikachu · Jan 31, 2006

GoldBerg said:
i doubt anybody here will do better.

Maybe, but that is just because you are too lazy

NO.
1750 AD and maximum number of english citizens is good (it's a little more tricky)
same number of citizens = the SCORE / PERCENTAGE make the difference.

As you wish my lord! Good to see that you take control here.

I just have to hope for a more challenging game next quarter then

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

Pikachu said:
Maybe, but that is just because you are too lazy

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

akaneda's files

akaneda said:
sorry forgot the save file !!
View attachment 114361
View attachment 114362

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    ......  .. ..... .  ...            ...     . ..........................     
     .........   ..     ..    ..     ..*Brighton.............    .  .. ...      
    ..........   ....          .*Coventry.  ..*Issus.........           ..      
    ....+Philadelphia         .... .*Nottingham..............   .       ..      
    .......   . .....         ...    . ..   *Mos+Leni*Delhi..  .....     .      
    ......... .......         .*London *Cambridge............  ......           
   ........+Ne++Boston       ...  ........   .................  ......   ..     
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  ...............               .*Pari*Birmingham    .  ............+Berlin     
  ...............             ............*Canterbury   .............    ..     
  ..........+Washington     ................ .   ..      .. .  ....      ..     
  .     .... .              *Oxford*Exe*Hastings.*Samarkand      ..     ..      
           .               ....*York......*Reading....  .. .            .       
     ..    .                       ..*Liverpo*Mecca..+Bokhara...                
    ...                            .        .....   .*Tarsus..........          
    .*Tenochtitlan                          .....    .................          
      ..*Naples.             ...       ...  ....     ....+Nishapur....          
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             .........               .....+Thebes                      ........ 
             ....*Sidon              .....+Ulundi                      .......  
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4000 BC: Russians found the city of Moscow
4000 BC: Zulus found the city of Zimbabwe
4000 BC: French found the city of Paris
4000 BC: Aztecs found the city of Tenochtitlan
4000 BC: Americans found the city of Washington
4000 BC: Mongols found the city of Samarkand
3980 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ALPHABET
3920 BC: Americans produce first Militia
3820 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3800 BC: Russians produce first Phalanx
3780 BC: Aztecs discover Bronze Working
3740 BC: French discover Pottery
3740 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF COVENTRY
3740 BC: Mongols discover Ceremonial Burial
3720 BC: Russians discover Horseback Riding
3680 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST TRIREME
3600 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST CAVALRY
3580 BC: Paris destroyed
3580 BC: French civilization destroyed by English
3540 BC: Zulus produce first Settlers
3540 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM
3520 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3520 BC: Aztecs discover Currency
3500 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER WRITING
3480 BC: Americans discover Mathematics
3440 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF PARIS
3440 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MASONRY
3420 BC: Zulus found the city of Ulundi
3380 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3360 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NOTTINGHAM
3220 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3220 BC: Mongols found the city of Bokhara
3200 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3140 BC: Americans found the city of New York
3140 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF YORK
3080 BC: Russians discover Mysticism
3060 BC: Americans found the city of Boston
3040 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER LITERACY
3040 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF LIVERPOOL
3040 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ENGINEERING
3000 BC: ENGLISH: 7 CITIES; 150,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Americans 3:Russians 4:Mongols 5:Zulus 6:Aztecs 7:Germans 
2960 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER IRON WORKING
2920 BC: Russians found the city of Leningrad
2920 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST CHARIOT
2920 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
2920 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BRIGHTON
2920 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF OXFORD
2860 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
2860 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER INVENTION
2840 BC: Ulundi destroyed
2780 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF READING
2760 BC: Zimbabwe destroyed
2760 BC: Zulu civilization destroyed by English
2740 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
2680 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF EXETER
2680 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MONARCHY
2640 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER TRADE
2620 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CAMBRIDGE
2620 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER BANKING
2600 BC: Babylon destroyed
2600 BC: Babylonian civilization destroyed by English
2600 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF HASTINGS
2600 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CANTERBURY
2600 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF BANBURY
2560 BC: ENGLISH CAPTURE TENOCHTITLAN
2560 BC: Aztec civilization destroyed by English
2560 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE
2560 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
2500 BC: Egyptians found the city of Thebes
2500 BC: Washington destroyed
2480 BC: Boston destroyed
2420 BC: Russians produce first Legion
2420 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER NAVIGATION
2400 BC: Americans found the city of Philadelphia
2360 BC: Philadelphia destroyed
2320 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER FEUDALISM
2300 BC: ENGLISH PRODUCE FIRST SAIL
2300 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF MECCA
2280 BC: New York destroyed
2280 BC: American civilization destroyed by English
2260 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
2240 BC: Russians make peace with Germans
2240 BC: Chinese found the city of Peking
2240 BC: Leningrad destroyed
2240 BC: Mongols found the city of Nishapur
2220 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF NAPLES
2180 BC: ENGLISH CAPTURE MOSCOW
2180 BC: Russian civilization destroyed by English
2160 BC: Romans found the city of Rome
2160 BC: English make peace with Mongols
2140 BC: English declare war on Mongols
2140 BC: ENGLISH CAPTURE SAMARKAND
2100 BC: Bokhara destroyed
2080 BC: Nishapur destroyed
2080 BC: Mongol civilization destroyed by English
2080 BC: Indians found the city of Delhi
2060 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF SIDON
2000 BC: ENGLISH: 22 CITIES; 1,080,000 POPULATION
*** 1:English 2:Germans 3:Egyptians 4:Romans 5:Chinese 6:Indians 
2000 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF TYRE
2000 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF TARSUS
1980 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF ISSUS
1980 BC: ENGLISH FOUND THE CITY OF CUNAXA
1940 BC: Thebes destroyed
1940 BC: Egyptian civilization destroyed by English
1940 BC: Rome destroyed
1940 BC: Roman civilization destroyed by English
1920 BC: Berlin destroyed
1920 BC: German civilization destroyed by English
1920 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER RELIGION
1840 BC: ENGLISH DISCOVER MEDICINE
1820 BC: Peking destroyed
1820 BC: Chinese civilization destroyed by English[/size]

GoldBerg · Jan 31, 2006

Pikachu said:
... ...
I just have to hope for a more challenging game next quarter then

we
just have to see
what a majority here thinks
about the difficulty of THE ONGOiNG game.

i bet this game here
is still 'too hard' for that majority.

you won't get a semi-official GameOtThe-whatever
(even) 'harder' / 'more challenging' than this
(or)
'we' (whoever)
just stay '3 players' (at highest) here (i guess carniflex, kirilov and pikachu).
well, carniflex, kirilov and pikachu weren't down to civDOS
for a long time?
do you see the point?
...coming here and complaining after months of 'invisibility'?

it all depends on the number of REGULARS here at civ.1 forum
and if
some old 'fanatics'
come back here
to play a game.

...

Pikachu · Feb 1, 2006

GoldBerg said:
Pikachu said:

Maybe, but that is just because you are too lazy

Click to expand...

Why don’t you just play the game? Then we can see how much you s…, eh I mean how good you are!

Since you allow cheating I don’t see any problems with you competing in your own scenario.

GoldBerg said:

SCORE TABLE / •Hall Of Fame•

Code:

RANK  CivDOS.Fanatic - Game Date - # of PEOPLE - SCORE /    %     DATE

 01   Pikachu          1750 AD      40,470,000    1072 /  64%     Jan 30, 2006
 02   akaneda          1760 AD       1,080,000      86 /   5%     Jan 31, 2006 
 03   ???              #### AD      ##.###.###     ### /   #%     ???

akaneda finished in 1760 BC, and if you walk into Delhi the score will be 1874 and rating will be 112%.

GoldBerg said:
you won't get a semi-official GameOtThe-whatever
(even) 'harder' / 'more challenging' than this
(or)
'we' (whoever)
just stay '3 players' (at highest) here (i guess carniflex, kirilov and pikachu).

It is better with three players than no players!

Anyway, you can at least add Tenochtitlan and akaneda to that list. Everybody who has submitted results so far appears to be capable of playing a harder game.

Where are all those players who think prince is too hard? I hope some of them come out of the closet soon and submit their results.

I don’t mind playing on Prince level. That is a good level, but I have a problem with excessive milking, so I hope excessive milking will not be required in the next GOTQ.

GoldBerg · Feb 1, 2006

... ... ... pls. delete

GoldBerg · Feb 1, 2006

Pikachu said:
... ...
Why don’t you just play the game? Then we can see how much you suck...

it doesn't matter if i play it or not.
i made the scenario - i did play it 10 times to test functions and else.
that's enough for me.
if i will do good everybody will write i did good because i made the scenario.
so it makes no sense to post my results here.

Pikachu said:
Since you allow cheating I don’t see any problems with you competing in your own scenario.

i didn't "'allow' cheating" (who am i to allow something - all grown-ups here?)

i list the cheats because other people are cheating.

while listing the wellknown cheats i give people a chance to understand
what's going on in the heads of other people
or
to 'see the possibilities'.

Pikachu said:
akaneda finished in 1760 BC, and if you walk into Delhi the score will be 1874 and rating will be 112%.

i haven't seen this, sorry.
i don't know how to handle this -
i have no time to test it for cheating, maybe you?

anyway,
1. it's not 1750 AD,
2. no max. # of english anyway
and
3. not posted into this thread.

so it doesn't matter to me.
who am i to look around the whole forum for GOTM/Q results?
r u people totally kiddin' here OR WHAT?

Pikachu said:
... ...you can at least add Tenochtitlan and akaneda to that list.

why should i?
tenoch did play at empereor level (the old game before it was GOTM or whatever)

Pikachu said:
Everybody who has submitted results so far appears to be capable of playing a harder game.

well - your conclusions -
you are suggesting something harder -
so create the game you want yourself.

Pikachu said:
Where are all those players who think prince is too hard?
... ...

a suggestion, dearest pikachu:
finally start to read the other GOTM thread and discuss it there -
i am not here to review to you
the content of the other thread written inbetween your absence.

Pikachu · Feb 1, 2006

GoldBerg said:
Pikachu said:

Why don’t you just play the game? Then we can see how much you suck...

Click to expand...

it doesn't matter if i play it or not.
i made the scenario - i did play it 10 times to test functions and else.
that's enough for me.
if i will do good everybody will write i did good because i made the scenario.
so it makes no sense to play it (again) for me.

My comment was meant as a joke. From what I have seen of your strategy discussions in other threads I believe you are a very capable civ1 player. Even though you made this scenario, I would like to see your name in the score table. The more names we get in there the better, but I understand that you don’t want to play this game again. Sorry for asking.

i didn't "'allow' cheating" (who am i to allow something - all grown-ups here?)

Ah, wrong words. Of course it is not cheating when it allowed by the GOTQ rules.

i haven't seen this, sorry.
i don't know how to handle this -
i have no time to test it for cheating, maybe you?

Why should anybody test it for cheating when all cheats are legal?

why should i?
tenoch did play at empereor level (the old game before it was GOTM or whatever)

Sorry, I meant the list over the three players who could play a harder game, but I agree that this discussion belongs in the other thread. Sorry for spamming up this one.

Alex Johnson · Feb 1, 2006

Pika, I'm one of the ones that prefers Prince to Emperor (since I just started playing again...I used to be great at King, but never won Emperor). I think either 1) this GOTQ thing will work or 2) it won't. To me the whole point is to play the same scenario as others and compare results. It doesn't have to be formalized, but a lot of people here are hung up on the GOTM concept because it was used in other, busier forums. It's good enough to me to start a thread and say "Here's my last game, saved in 4000BC. It was really good. My outcome was.... Play it and post yours!" You could use any difficulty you wanted then, since it is your thread. If we have to have an official GOTM with rules and such, then we need to set it at a moderate difficulty. Many posters said they found Emperor too hard. Chieftain is clearly too easy. So Prince makes the best compromise. If you want an Emperor level, you could do that. We could actually have 2 GOTQ games per quarter: Prince and Emperor (for the average and master players).

Goldberg, I don't know what kind of people we have on here, but I've never cheated in Civ. I've never cheated in any game except to get past a bug that made the game impossible to complete by the rules. I would expect that if one loves playing Civ so much that they are still here in the Civ1 forum, then one probably doesn't cheat on Civ1. Maybe I'm wrong.

akaneda · Feb 1, 2006

GoldBerg said:
i haven't seen this, sorry.
i don't know how to handle this -
i have no time to test it for cheating, maybe you?

anyway,
1. it's not 1750 AD,
2. no max. # of english anyway
and
3. not posted into this thread.

so it doesn't matter to me.
who am i to look around the whole forum for GOTM/Q results?
r u people totally kiddin' here OR WHAT?

why should i?

At first sorry that i putted my saves in wrong thread, and goldberg dont get pissed. ur doin a good job and i belief everybody knows that.

the reason for posting the saves in the wrong thread is easy, i couldnt find where else to put it when i started to play. and the same reason for the strange scoring, i couldnt find what the goal should be.

but im already on the next try for highest people. (i hope i can post different games!?! and besides to the point of the "end of gotq", in 1800 bc i already bet pikachus population of 0 ad!)

oh yes before i forget, u (goldberg) said:

GoldBerg said:
and if
some old 'fanatics'
come back here
to play a game.

DONT CALL ME A FANATIC :goodjob:

Alex Johnson · Feb 4, 2006

You can stop being mad. I started playing GOTQ. It is really good, Goldberg! I thought it was going to be very hard, starting on an island only big enough for 3 medium size cities but I'm now getting out to the rest of the world. Funny that everyone said the other civs grow big and don't kill each other in this scenario, because already the Zulus destroyed the Germans and the French only had 3 cities when I killed them!

GoldBerg · Feb 4, 2006

Alex Johnson said:
You can stop being mad.
... ...

i am not 'mad'.
i am just upset how much PRECiOUS TiME all that discussion wastes.
time of our lives, time to just play the savegame files for example.

.
.

the MOST that was written about the EARTH2 scenario before here in this thread
was from the EMPEREOR version of this savegame!!!

Alex Johnson, you did want to have this in PRiNCE -
that's why we all play this one NOW in PRiNCE level -
that's why the EMPEREOR savegames are removed here (!!!) -
please don't come here now complaining 'it's not hard'.

Funny that everyone said the other civs grow big

(like i wrote ABOVE!!!) TENOCH³ wrote this because of the EMPEREOR LEVEL!!!

and don't kill each other in this scenario, because already the Zulus destroyed the Germans and the French only had 3 cities when I killed them

we did discuss about this already. if you kill the french, the germans (may) appear.
- if you don't split the 'russian' empire by conquering moscow
into russians and german renegates -
- if you don't destroy any capital,
the 'germans' may appear in australia, africa or south america.

if you are now (finally) interested in the REAL (EMPEREOR) version
you would find out what will happen
if you play the game like it is planned.

i did fix another version (slightly different EARTH2 map)
with the newest TERRAFORM editor
and everything is working even better now.

to prevent confusion i will post this EMPEREOR level game in another thread next time.

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