AI Expansionism

UTmon · Dec 01, 2001, 04:20 PM

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone had worked out a utility to change the expansionism level of other civs. It's becoming very annoying, as other civs will often build cities next to my colonies, cut off my frontier cities, or build all around my borders, often taking many resources. If someone can tell me of a utility to edit this, please reply to this thread, or send me a message.

IceBlaZe · Dec 02, 2001, 09:14 AM

i dont know of any, but i do know that if you expand more than them and do the same to their colonies it is productive and its like an early cure to the disease (i dont remember the sentence.. :/).
anyhow, expand and prosper and the computers expantionismmsmsmsms wont bug you as much as it used to.
hope that helps

, bye

Qelebex · Dec 02, 2001, 09:45 AM

Crush them, make peace, get everything they have and destroy them. That will give you a shift. No peaceful civilization of the early ages have survived... I have destroyed the English already. They were too close

ComradeRed · Dec 02, 2001, 09:44 PM

That has often gotten on my nerves, but if you keep a higher culture level, many of their cities will rebel and join you. Also I found that if you have just about all of a continent and they come on the edges, you can just take their cities and before they can bring an invading force in, get peace for a world map or so. Now if there was only a cure for their idiotic trading...... Japan was insulted when I offered them Halite, Dyes, Ivory and Incense..... and they just had to give me some spare spices.

IceBlaZe · Dec 04, 2001, 01:32 PM

yeah something about their trade is completely weird.
but I squeeze every penny out of them by selling technologies, I earn about 1050 gold each day just from all the civs around me.
China needs Oil and Oranium, and they will give a lot of money for it

Magnus · Dec 04, 2001, 01:56 PM

Soren Johnson concluded that the only way to keep the AI competetive with a human player was to make them use the ICS strategy.

I never mind when they squeak cities around my capital because they are doing my work for me.

IceBlaZe · Dec 05, 2001, 07:04 AM

ICS?
What does 'ICS' stand for?

Wolfshanze · Dec 05, 2001, 12:01 PM

CRUSH ALL ENEMIES

SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU

AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN

Magnus · Dec 05, 2001, 12:46 PM

ICS = Infinite City Sprawl. It is the tactic of building cities till you can't cram any more anywhere. The AI does this to prevent the human player from using it - they do have you outnumbered!

iceandfire · Dec 05, 2001, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Qelebex
Crush them, make peace, get everything they have and destroy them. That will give you a shift. No peaceful civilization of the early ages have survived... I have destroyed the English already. They were too close

You wrong

We can live more peaceful world.
i m suggesting a flower my enemies.
Enemy:cultural and economics

:itele:

bunlarda iteleme yok galiba.

Dec 01, 2001, 04:20 PM	#1
UTmon Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 11	AI Expansionism Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone had worked out a utility to change the expansionism level of other civs. It's becoming very annoying, as other civs will often build cities next to my colonies, cut off my frontier cities, or build all around my borders, often taking many resources. If someone can tell me of a utility to edit this, please reply to this thread, or send me a message. __________________ "If I want your opinion I will give it to you." - I. Lagler "A handful of salt quiets the mouth of the garrulous slave." - Horace

Dec 02, 2001, 09:14 AM	#2
IceBlaZe Atheist Proselytizer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 4,740	dont know of any i dont know of any, but i do know that if you expand more than them and do the same to their colonies it is productive and its like an early cure to the disease (i dont remember the sentence.. :/). anyhow, expand and prosper and the computers expantionismmsmsmsms wont bug you as much as it used to. hope that helps , bye __________________ The flame says to the cypress: “When I see how calm, how full of pride you are, something inside me goes wild – How can one live this awesome life without a touch of madness, of spirit, of imagination, of freedom, with only a grim, ancient pride? If I could, I would burn down the establishment that we call the seasons, along with your cursed dependence on earth and air and sun, on rain and dew.” The cypress does not answer. He knows there is madness in him, and freedom, and imagination, and spirit. But the flame will not understand, the flame will not believe. Zelda - Two Elements PC: Economic Left/Right: -2.00 \| Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

Dec 04, 2001, 01:32 PM	#5
IceBlaZe Atheist Proselytizer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 4,740	yeah yeah something about their trade is completely weird. but I squeeze every penny out of them by selling technologies, I earn about 1050 gold each day just from all the civs around me. China needs Oil and Oranium, and they will give a lot of money for it __________________ The flame says to the cypress: “When I see how calm, how full of pride you are, something inside me goes wild – How can one live this awesome life without a touch of madness, of spirit, of imagination, of freedom, with only a grim, ancient pride? If I could, I would burn down the establishment that we call the seasons, along with your cursed dependence on earth and air and sun, on rain and dew.” The cypress does not answer. He knows there is madness in him, and freedom, and imagination, and spirit. But the flame will not understand, the flame will not believe. Zelda - Two Elements PC: Economic Left/Right: -2.00 \| Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

Dec 05, 2001, 07:04 AM	#7
IceBlaZe Atheist Proselytizer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 4,740	ics ICS? What does 'ICS' stand for? __________________ The flame says to the cypress: “When I see how calm, how full of pride you are, something inside me goes wild – How can one live this awesome life without a touch of madness, of spirit, of imagination, of freedom, with only a grim, ancient pride? If I could, I would burn down the establishment that we call the seasons, along with your cursed dependence on earth and air and sun, on rain and dew.” The cypress does not answer. He knows there is madness in him, and freedom, and imagination, and spirit. But the flame will not understand, the flame will not believe. Zelda - Two Elements PC: Economic Left/Right: -2.00 \| Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

Dec 05, 2001, 12:01 PM	#8
Wolfshanze CFC Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 5,689	What is good... CRUSH ALL ENEMIES SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN

Dec 02, 2001, 09:45 AM	#3
Qelebex Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 55	Crush them, make peace, get everything they have and destroy them. That will give you a shift. No peaceful civilization of the early ages have survived... I have destroyed the English already. They were too close

Dec 02, 2001, 09:44 PM	#4
ComradeRed Civilized Expansionist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 134	That has often gotten on my nerves, but if you keep a higher culture level, many of their cities will rebel and join you. Also I found that if you have just about all of a continent and they come on the edges, you can just take their cities and before they can bring an invading force in, get peace for a world map or so. Now if there was only a cure for their idiotic trading...... Japan was insulted when I offered them Halite, Dyes, Ivory and Incense..... and they just had to give me some spare spices.

Dec 04, 2001, 01:56 PM	#6
Magnus Diplocat Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,766	Soren Johnson concluded that the only way to keep the AI competetive with a human player was to make them use the ICS strategy. I never mind when they squeak cities around my capital because they are doing my work for me.

Dec 05, 2001, 12:46 PM	#9
Magnus Diplocat Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,766	ICS = Infinite City Sprawl. It is the tactic of building cities till you can't cram any more anywhere. The AI does this to prevent the human player from using it - they do have you outnumbered!

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