Curragh blockade

Quasar1011 · Apr 10, 2005, 06:34 PM

Was playing some Civ 3, was exploring around a new continent. I rounded the northern part of Rome, and there were 3 Carthaginian curraghs blockading Veii. I don't recall ever seeing a blockade with just curraghs before! Here is a screenshot:

(PS mine is the blue galley, and that is clay in my mod)

vmxa · Apr 10, 2005, 08:05 PM

I don't ever recall seeing the AI make curagh, period in an epic game, let alone blockade.

Mathias · Apr 10, 2005, 09:55 PM

Something about the borders in that image seems a little odd...

Solomwi · Apr 10, 2005, 11:28 PM

I usually don't see the AI build them, either, but I've seen (and sunk

) two in my current game, one from the Romans and one from the Maya.

Khan_Asparuh · Apr 11, 2005, 03:59 AM

Sometimes the seafarers build curraghs, but Rome and Maya aren't. It's really random.
The AI blockade is really something I have never seen. Curious. On what difficulty level is this?

Khan_Asparuh · Apr 11, 2005, 04:01 AM

There's something even weirder. How does the AI produce veteran curraghs? It is impossible in epics (I think), they must promote. And 3 promoted curraghs is strange.

eldar · Apr 11, 2005, 05:47 AM

I'm guessing they got promoted by being attacked by Roman boats.

Khan_Asparuh · Apr 11, 2005, 05:57 AM

Sure, I see this answer too but unless they got home for healing and then would have been upgraded, it's a big coincidence to get 3 veterans (and no elite) or without losing any HP.
I'm sure that this is another AI trick... I mean building veteran curraghs.

Puppeteer · Apr 11, 2005, 08:02 AM

From his post and his sig, it sounds like he plays modded games. The squiggly borders are just a graphics mod from this forum.

Vet curraghs may be explainable by the mod, but I've never seen an AI try to blockade. That's cool, and that can't be modded in. (Although modding the game indirectly affects AI behavior as many modders have found out.)

Mathias · Apr 11, 2005, 04:16 PM

The squiggly borders weren't the 'odd' thing I was referring too. If you look to the west of Veii, it appears that the total culture of Veii is anywhere from 10 to 99. To the north, there are two tiles that, as far as I can tell, should not be withing Roman cultural borders. The border simply does not match any level of culture in the game. Can anyone explain this?

watorrey · Apr 11, 2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

The squiggly borders weren't the 'odd' thing I was referring too. If you look to the west of Veii, it appears that the total culture of Veii is anywhere from 10 to 99. To the north, there are two tiles that, as far as I can tell, should not be withing Roman cultural borders. The border simply does not match any level of culture in the game. Can anyone explain this?

It looks normal to me for a city with 100-999 culture.

Raio · Apr 13, 2005, 09:53 AM

I dont think so. Mathias is right!

The culture borders does not match with "normal games". There are 2 tiles in the North that should not be inside the Roman border!!!
Or others that should be...

RR

budweiser · Apr 13, 2005, 11:19 AM

I think its right, his culture is stopped by the ocean, and the other city is pressing his border.

Yoda Power · Apr 13, 2005, 01:17 PM

Why are you mixing those terrain graphics? It looks weird.

Dutch Leader1 · Apr 14, 2005, 02:13 AM

When you are realy annoyed you can ATTACK those Curraghs!
Your Galley is much stronger! In the worst case you can attack them with a second Galley!

Greetings, Dutch Leader1

eldar · Apr 14, 2005, 06:24 AM

A Galley is no stronger than a Curragh, in either attack or defence (both are 1/1 A/D). The difference is in the transport capacity and movement.

Monkeyd00 · Apr 14, 2005, 07:32 PM

The cultural borders are correct, they have a 21-tile city radius but their border runs up against the greeks over at the edge.

mikehunt · Apr 15, 2005, 12:29 AM

I agree, seeing the AI blockade is really weird
in all my games they almost always stack any naval units that are at all close to each other.

Quasar1011 · Apr 16, 2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda Power

Why are you mixing those terrain graphics? It looks weird.

I have been too busy to correct it, mostly.

I have not messed with the AI values, or changed any values for the curragh. My civ doesn't even build curraghs; I have the Haida canoe unit. And galleys often lost against curraghs, I have found.

Besides, at that point I was exploring, and was far from home. I didn't need to attack them. I just found a curragh blockade to be curious.

cheesecurds · Apr 16, 2005, 11:43 AM

that is so weird. I've never seen that before

Apr 10, 2005, 06:34 PM	#1
Quasar1011 Crown Prince of Sylvania Join Date: May 2003 Location: The largest county in the USA Posts: 2,959	Curragh blockade Was playing some Civ 3, was exploring around a new continent. I rounded the northern part of Rome, and there were 3 Carthaginian curraghs blockading Veii. I don't recall ever seeing a blockade with just curraghs before! Here is a screenshot: (PS mine is the blue galley, and that is clay in my mod) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Tornadoes suck; hurricanes blow.

Apr 11, 2005, 03:59 AM	#5
Khan_Asparuh Just a Bulgarian Eddie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue, Paris Posts: 1,032	Sometimes the seafarers build curraghs, but Rome and Maya aren't. It's really random. The AI blockade is really something I have never seen. Curious. On what difficulty level is this? __________________ "You're outnumbered by the bastards until the day you die" Bruce Dickinson CivAnon has released a very efficient tool... CiV.

Apr 11, 2005, 04:01 AM	#6
Khan_Asparuh Just a Bulgarian Eddie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue, Paris Posts: 1,032	There's something even weirder. How does the AI produce veteran curraghs? It is impossible in epics (I think), they must promote. And 3 promoted curraghs is strange. __________________ "You're outnumbered by the bastards until the day you die" Bruce Dickinson CivAnon has released a very efficient tool... CiV.

Apr 11, 2005, 05:47 AM	#7
eldar ChiefTank Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 3,243	I'm guessing they got promoted by being attacked by Roman boats. __________________ "I have Nukes. You do not. Go figure." SGs: Too busy! See here. Versions: - - - - - -

Apr 11, 2005, 05:57 AM	#8
Khan_Asparuh Just a Bulgarian Eddie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue, Paris Posts: 1,032	Sure, I see this answer too but unless they got home for healing and then would have been upgraded, it's a big coincidence to get 3 veterans (and no elite) or without losing any HP. I'm sure that this is another AI trick... I mean building veteran curraghs. __________________ "You're outnumbered by the bastards until the day you die" Bruce Dickinson CivAnon has released a very efficient tool... CiV.

Apr 10, 2005, 08:05 PM	#2
vmxa Deity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oviedo, Fl Posts: 13,270	I don't ever recall seeing the AI make curagh, period in an epic game, let alone blockade.

Apr 10, 2005, 09:55 PM	#3
Mathias OCC Rocks! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,444	Something about the borders in that image seems a little odd...

Apr 10, 2005, 11:28 PM	#4
Solomwi Prince Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 400	I usually don't see the AI build them, either, but I've seen (and sunk ) two in my current game, one from the Romans and one from the Maya.

Apr 11, 2005, 08:02 AM	#9
Puppeteer King Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW, Texas USA Posts: 797	From his post and his sig, it sounds like he plays modded games. The squiggly borders are just a graphics mod from this forum. Vet curraghs may be explainable by the mod, but I've never seen an AI try to blockade. That's cool, and that can't be modded in. (Although modding the game indirectly affects AI behavior as many modders have found out.)

Apr 11, 2005, 04:16 PM	#10
Mathias OCC Rocks! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,444	The squiggly borders weren't the 'odd' thing I was referring too. If you look to the west of Veii, it appears that the total culture of Veii is anywhere from 10 to 99. To the north, there are two tiles that, as far as I can tell, should not be withing Roman cultural borders. The border simply does not match any level of culture in the game. Can anyone explain this?

Apr 13, 2005, 09:53 AM	#12
Raio Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OPorto - Portugal Posts: 62	I dont think so. Mathias is right! The culture borders does not match with "normal games". There are 2 tiles in the North that should not be inside the Roman border!!! Or others that should be... RR

Apr 13, 2005, 11:19 AM	#13
budweiser King of the Beers Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,194	I think its right, his culture is stopped by the ocean, and the other city is pressing his border. __________________ Budweiser, you have risen to become King of the Beers. You have knowledge of Brewing, Irrigation, Mining, and Roads.

Apr 13, 2005, 01:17 PM	#14
Yoda Power ✫✫✫✫✫✫✫ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 13,315 Images: 16	Why are you mixing those terrain graphics? It looks weird. __________________ Medieval European Mod II 1.3 \| Giant Earth Concept Map (256x256) \| East Asia Mod \| The YP Archives

Apr 14, 2005, 02:13 AM	#15
Dutch Leader1 Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rotterdam - Netherlands Posts: 29	When you are realy annoyed you can ATTACK those Curraghs! Your Galley is much stronger! In the worst case you can attack them with a second Galley! Greetings, Dutch Leader1

Apr 14, 2005, 06:24 AM	#16
eldar ChiefTank Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 3,243	A Galley is no stronger than a Curragh, in either attack or defence (both are 1/1 A/D). The difference is in the transport capacity and movement. __________________ "I have Nukes. You do not. Go figure." SGs: Too busy! See here. Versions: - - - - - -

Apr 14, 2005, 07:32 PM	#17
Monkeyd00 Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 25	The cultural borders are correct, they have a 21-tile city radius but their border runs up against the greeks over at the edge.

Apr 15, 2005, 12:29 AM	#18
mikehunt Warlord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western NY Posts: 152	I agree, seeing the AI blockade is really weird in all my games they almost always stack any naval units that are at all close to each other.

Apr 16, 2005, 11:43 AM	#20
cheesecurds Chieftain Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 58	that is so weird. I've never seen that before

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