Will Civ3 benefit in anything from Civ4?

[Kyriakos]

After civ4 is out, do you think that Civ3 will become a classic like civ2? Or will the nostalgia value simply not be there (as with many of us). I, for example, have spent countless hours playing civ2, even more than civ1 (i am 26 now), but a lot less playing civ3. The less number of cities, absense of events (why was there never made a program that would enable that? probably the coding was too hard to break Firaxis really in these respects seemed to be also interested in keeping civ2 alive) were critical in my view of civ3 as well.
But perhaps after civ4 is out some people will keep making graphics for civ3, and then become better at it. Many civ2 graphics that are being made now are by far superior to those of old.
Still i am not at all sure that civ3 will indeed have a rebirth.

[Steve2000]

Well, I have been playing since the original Civ also - and I have played civ III the most of any. I think that Civ III will live on. I consider it to be far superior to civ 2.

It will have to for a while, since I bet there are a lot of civ players who won't have the graphic cards to move up to Civ IV.

[MeteorPunch]

Depends on how good Civ 4 is and how many people have computers that will run it. Having said that, Civ 3 is a great game and will be played long after regardless.

EDIT: will it gain anything? not much...
EDIT2: CivIII will go into Civ Utopia if it goes the way of Cobain and will become the ultimate Civ experience to everyone who plays.

[Bungus]

Vanilla Civ 3 sucked. Vanilla Civ4 will probably suck. It will probably take a year, one expanasion pack, and countless hours from artists and modders before I'll play Civ4.

[henry k c]

Civ 3 will probably be crap after civ 4 comes out. Who wants to play an outdated game? (no offense if you do)

[DizzKneeLand33]

Well..... I still play Ms. PacMan..... is that outdated yet?

Civ III has some concepts that will allow it to live a long life. The only reason I can think of where Civ III would die would be if the programming and features in Civ IV were SO great that there would be no reason to play Civ III. I'm not holding my breath....

[CyberChrist]

Originally Posted by henry k c

Who wants to play an outdated game?

Well, Master of Orion 2 is seriously outdated and has been for many years now, but since MoO3 was a big disappointment(complete rubbish imho) and as there are no other/better game like it around - I still find myself playing MoO2 once in a while.

Should Firaxis produce a groundbreaking masterpiece with Civ4 I am sure all previous version will fade sooner or later. However, like most people my expectations are not exactly high and the list of reasons for this is very long - sadly.

[El Justo]

this is a good question varwnos...i remember reading somewhere that it is possible that firaxis (or whomever is putting together civ4) may relaese the code source (i mayhave that wrong) for all of the hard-coded info for civ3.

now, if this is the case, it'd be a huge lift for civ3 b/c it'd enable us modders to crack the BS hard coded stuff.

[Bluemofia]

My computer is dying spacewise, so I'll probably play Civ III for a while until I can figure out a way to free up more space.

[Bungus]

I think we can all saftely ignore henry's opinion, as we should anyone's with more than 3 smilies in their signature.

The most important factor on the continuing life of Civ3 is if wether or not the source code is released.

Originally Posted by El Justo

this is a good question varwnos...i remember reading somewhere that it is possible that firaxis (or whomever is putting together civ4) may relaese the code source (i mayhave that wrong) for all of the hard-coded info for civ3.

now, if this is the case, it'd be a huge lift for civ3 b/c it'd enable us modders to crack the BS hard coded stuff.

I hope to god they do, but somehow doubt it. Firaxis is the designer of Civ3 and 4, but the publisher publisher has changed (was Atari). I don't know if Firaxis alone could release the source code if they wanted too.
Where did you read about this, El Justo?

[Nate1976]

I don't know. I depends on whether cIV is good.
And that Curt Cobain joke was just sick.

[El Justo]

Bungus,

i read it in one of the civ4 threads here at cfc. can't remember which cfc user it was who posted it but, yeah, i would probably keel over from jubilation if they ever released the source code for civ3. oh, the possibilities...

[Bungus]

Ditto......

[Kyriakos]

There is currently a petition for the source code of civ2 to be released, and although firaxis doesnt hold its rights its going nowhere ;| I doubt that firaxis would commit suicide by enabling people to make more of civ3 just when their new product, civ4, has been released.

[Bungus]

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. And I'm not sure if Firaxis holds the rights to it. But, I doubt releasing the source for us to tool around with would seriously hurt sales on CIV. Maybe a few copies, but do the handful hardcore gamers who would rather stick to cvi3 if that happen really account for more than a few hundred dollars? Hell, I'd buy CIV and rebuy civ3 if they did give us the source code.

Plus, we know damn well any of us dorky enough to tinker with Civ's code or even talk about it is buying CIV anyway.