Magic Iron

Ur Mum · Jun 24, 2005, 01:36 PM

ok. was playing a tiny peagea on regent difficulty as aztecs. mid game, jsut as i was finishing off the chinese.... a source of iron was "exhausted" on a mountian tile. then, the next message, was "we discovered a new source of iron" on exactly the same tile, on the same turn it disappeared.

David Blaine has been doing magic on my iron sources... making it disappear and then reappear maybe?

i just found it very strange.... same turn, same tile.....

What are the odds on that? Small right? (as new sources are not always found on the same turn a source disappears right?)

Tomoyo · Jun 24, 2005, 01:46 PM

It's not as uncommon as you may think. It's wierd, really.

Ranger99 · Jun 24, 2005, 01:49 PM

happened to me once too.

it was the first time i had ever seen a redource be exhausted, then it reappeared back right away.

So i thought it was SUPPOSED to happen

man did i get ticked off when my only source of oil exausthed and a new one didn't come up

Ur Mum · Jun 24, 2005, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomoyo

It's not as uncommon as you may think. It's wierd, really.

amen to that!

i've been playing civ3 for ages now.... and never had that happen before.

madviking · Jun 24, 2005, 01:59 PM

Happened to me...
*a montage of flashbacks occur* once... twice... three?... four... and five starting yesterday.

And I only been playing a quarter of my life

(3 years)

Himalia · Jun 24, 2005, 02:04 PM

The oddest one ive ever had is we have found a new source of camels. A few turns later some more camels turned up again. Ok who has been breeding Camels ? I thought. Just a thought your happily trading say Iron with someone and then your resource runs out What happens to the trade deal. Do you effectively end up breaking it or are you forced to give the non exces Iron you have if you have any.

searcheagle · Jun 24, 2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomoyo

It's not as uncommon as you may think. It's wierd, really.

Agreed. In the modern age, it prolly occurs 75% of the time. The reason is that the game has to keep certain numbers of resources in the game at all times. When one is "exausted" it has to add another to keep the balance. Exaustion is based on a percentage, which varies based on the type of resource.

vmxa · Jun 24, 2005, 02:08 PM

A tiny map will increase the odds as you have fewer tiles that can have iron.

searcheagle · Jun 24, 2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himalia

The oddest one ive ever had is we have found a new source of camels. A few turns later some more camels turned up again. Ok who has been breeding Camels ?

I cant say anything about camels cause that would have to be a moded game (RAR?/DyP) but in C3C/C3 horse have no chance of exaustion and can only increase in number as the game goes on.

Quote:

I thought. Just a thought your happily trading say Iron with someone and then your resource runs out What happens to the trade deal. Do you effectively end up breaking it or are you forced to give the non exces Iron you have if you have any.

Unsure what you are saying. If you are supplying iron to another civ and run out, you have broken the agreement and get the bad rep cause of it. If you have 2 sources, I am unsure as if you lose your supply or they lose theirs.

Renata · Jun 24, 2005, 02:14 PM

You lose yours.

Renata

pazza · Jun 24, 2005, 04:16 PM

can a resource, say like iron, be exhausted even if u dont build unit that require iron?

Crazy Eskimo · Jun 24, 2005, 04:20 PM

Yup. Exhaustion of a resource has no connection with how many units you've built that use that resource. So, theoretically, you could never build any unit that uses iron and your iron supply could be exhausted.

Aegis Shield · Jun 24, 2005, 04:31 PM

Yeah. The only thing required for a resource to be depleted is if you have it connected.

Luxury resources don't go away, right?

Ur Mum · Jun 25, 2005, 12:19 PM

I've never seen bonus or luxuary resources disappear.

However, I know you can make them be exhuasted in the edittor. (There's a number option that specifies the probability of disappearance)

vmxa · Jun 25, 2005, 12:43 PM

Rubber and Horses do not deplete either, they are set to 0.

Bluemofia · Jun 25, 2005, 02:23 PM

It's not uncommon???

I got it sooo many times where it would disapear and reappear on the same tile, the same turn.

Tomoyo · Jun 25, 2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluemofia

It's not uncommon???

I got it sooo many times where it would disapear and reappear on the same tile, the same turn.

That's what it means to be not uncommon.

Bluemofia · Jun 25, 2005, 05:29 PM

I ment common. I wasn't really paying close attention to what I was typing.

Ansar · Jun 25, 2005, 08:35 PM

I once actually got magic iron

, A new source appeared all of a sudden, like I hadnt run out of it or anything.

Go figure.

Steve2000 · Jun 25, 2005, 09:18 PM

I have never had this not happen. (I love using double negatives)

In other words EVERY time I lose a resource it appears in the exact same location. Granted I usually play regent or monarch - does the chance of a resource disappearing vary based on the difficulty?

Jun 24, 2005, 01:36 PM	#1
Ur Mum Warlord Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 238	Magic Iron ok. was playing a tiny peagea on regent difficulty as aztecs. mid game, jsut as i was finishing off the chinese.... a source of iron was "exhausted" on a mountian tile. then, the next message, was "we discovered a new source of iron" on exactly the same tile, on the same turn it disappeared. David Blaine has been doing magic on my iron sources... making it disappear and then reappear maybe? i just found it very strange.... same turn, same tile..... What are the odds on that? Small right? (as new sources are not always found on the same turn a source disappears right?)

Jun 24, 2005, 01:46 PM	#2
Tomoyo Fate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 9,697	It's not as uncommon as you may think. It's wierd, really. __________________ No one can make the sun rise, but even I can turn on the lights.

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Jun 24, 2005, 04:20 PM	#12
Crazy Eskimo Prince Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 367	Yup. Exhaustion of a resource has no connection with how many units you've built that use that resource. So, theoretically, you could never build any unit that uses iron and your iron supply could be exhausted. __________________ I used to do Nothing Special all the time, but now I spend my time here.

Jun 24, 2005, 01:49 PM	#3
Ranger99 Ranger99's Going to NAVY? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Still a PATRIOT Posts: 551	happened to me once too. it was the first time i had ever seen a redource be exhausted, then it reappeared back right away. So i thought it was SUPPOSED to happen man did i get ticked off when my only source of oil exausthed and a new one didn't come up

Jun 24, 2005, 02:04 PM	#6
Himalia Overlord of Eternity. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 813	The oddest one ive ever had is we have found a new source of camels. A few turns later some more camels turned up again. Ok who has been breeding Camels ? I thought. Just a thought your happily trading say Iron with someone and then your resource runs out What happens to the trade deal. Do you effectively end up breaking it or are you forced to give the non exces Iron you have if you have any.

Jun 24, 2005, 02:08 PM	#8
vmxa Deity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oviedo, Fl Posts: 13,259	A tiny map will increase the odds as you have fewer tiles that can have iron.

Jun 24, 2005, 04:16 PM	#11
pazza Warlord Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 123	can a resource, say like iron, be exhausted even if u dont build unit that require iron?

Jun 24, 2005, 04:31 PM	#13
Aegis Shield Warlord Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 189	Yeah. The only thing required for a resource to be depleted is if you have it connected. Luxury resources don't go away, right?

Jun 25, 2005, 12:19 PM	#14
Ur Mum Warlord Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 238	I've never seen bonus or luxuary resources disappear. However, I know you can make them be exhuasted in the edittor. (There's a number option that specifies the probability of disappearance)

Jun 25, 2005, 12:43 PM	#15
vmxa Deity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oviedo, Fl Posts: 13,259	Rubber and Horses do not deplete either, they are set to 0.

Jun 25, 2005, 02:23 PM	#16
Bluemofia Asteroid = Doomsday Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dimension called Elsewhere Posts: 7,678	It's not uncommon??? I got it sooo many times where it would disapear and reappear on the same tile, the same turn. __________________ "The only Civilized people are the ones who play Civilization." -- Some Civ Addict Play the Playground Mod! I mean, it's got Ninjas, WWII Infantry, Jedi, Zombies, and even Giant Death Robots! Seriously, what can go wrong when you've got Giant Death Robots? Ok. This is where I got my avatar from. You can clearly tell it is not a boat, or a UFO! Join AstroEmpires! Conquering a galaxy near you!

Jun 25, 2005, 05:29 PM	#18
Bluemofia Asteroid = Doomsday Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dimension called Elsewhere Posts: 7,678	I ment common. I wasn't really paying close attention to what I was typing. __________________ "The only Civilized people are the ones who play Civilization." -- Some Civ Addict Play the Playground Mod! I mean, it's got Ninjas, WWII Infantry, Jedi, Zombies, and even Giant Death Robots! Seriously, what can go wrong when you've got Giant Death Robots? Ok. This is where I got my avatar from. You can clearly tell it is not a boat, or a UFO! Join AstroEmpires! Conquering a galaxy near you!

Jun 25, 2005, 08:35 PM	#19
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	I once actually got magic iron , A new source appeared all of a sudden, like I hadnt run out of it or anything. Go figure. __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Jun 25, 2005, 09:18 PM	#20
Steve2000 Mighty Pirate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deep in the Caribbean... Posts: 659	I have never had this not happen. (I love using double negatives) In other words EVERY time I lose a resource it appears in the exact same location. Granted I usually play regent or monarch - does the chance of a resource disappearing vary based on the difficulty?

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