frustration

[skisphereo]

I don't understand this game. I'm playing in monarchy, I'm the celts, and I'm rampaging over the carthaginians. They have 3 cities left beside the capital, and have feudalism and engineering over me. In terms for a peace treaty, they are willing to give me every one of their remaining cities. However, if I try and get a single technology, I get a I doubt they will accept your proposal.

[Steve2000]

Are you playing C3C? (you must be, this is the conquests forum) Apparently they made the AI much less likely to want to trade you techs in a peace negotiation. In Vanilla and PTW they would usually give you everything.

[vmxa]

The AI is loathed to give up a tech that has either a pending wonder or units. It is not going to give up a gov tech easily either.

So we see why they will not let go of Fued, it has all three of those things. Eng I am not so clear on, unless its being the gateway to Leo.

[Turner]

And on the flip side, the AI will pay a lot more for a tech that has a wonder/unit/resource in it. I like selling the techs with wonders to the AI when I'm one turn from finishing the wonder...

[LLXerxes]

Originally Posted by skisphereo

I don't understand this game. I'm playing in monarchy, I'm the celts, and I'm rampaging over the carthaginians. They have 3 cities left beside the capital, and have feudalism and engineering over me. In terms for a peace treaty, they are willing to give me every one of their remaining cities. However, if I try and get a single technology, I get a I doubt they will accept your proposal.

If they were smart, which they might be, they wouldn't accept a deal like that because they would have superior units to you. Since Numidian Mercenaries are 2/3/1 and have a defensive bonus on a city fortified plus terrian bonus, any unit with 4 attack puts up a good fight. Swordsmen can't touch Numids on a city fortified and defensive bonus.
BTW, Steve, Carthage and The Celts came in PTW, so he's most likely playing C3C

[skisphereo]

Thanks. I understand the formulation for rejecting the technology trade, however, I most definitely wouldn't call it smart. After they refused the trade I ended up taking two more cities, leaving them with two distant islands, and trading for feud/eng otherwise. I had already taken about 7-8 using gallic swordsman. The withdraw ability crushed the mercenaries, they grounded them all down into dust.

[madviking]

I'm playing this gaem *as Persians* and has 5 or 6 Zulu warriors in front of a city with a wall and a spear.








The next turn they offered plain peace!!!

[biggamer132]

Originally Posted by madviking

I'm playing this gaem *as Persians* and has 5 or 6 Zulu warriors in front of a city with a wall and a spear.


The next turn they offered plain peace!!!

I'm telling you man, it's the Persian blood. The other civs can't touch it. Unless, of course, you're the Greeks/Arabs/Chinese/Mongols/Russian/English/French/Americans.