Culturally Addicted

Ansar · Jul 05, 2005, 12:26 PM

Can anyone please help me with this obsession of having at least ONE producing culture building in every one of my cities?

Twonky · Jul 05, 2005, 12:30 PM

Unfortunately I can´t. I suffer the same disease.

berserks01 · Jul 05, 2005, 12:51 PM

That's an awfully contagious disease that one, cuz I'm suffering it as well

jeffelammar · Jul 05, 2005, 01:02 PM

Well, the first step is admitting that you have a problem.

Other than that, just remember the rule that applies to any and all buildings.

Only build an improvement if you are going to get an advantage out of it.

Reasons to build culture.
1. Need to claim territory (going for domination, city needs access to more squares, get a special tile)
2. Going for cultural victory (like I had to say it)
3. You need the cultural improvement for other reasons (happiness (rare), increased research, etc)

Times not to.
1. City's 27 tiles are already in your cultural boundaries
2. City is corrupt and only produces 1 commerce (Libraries will do no good)

Ansar · Jul 05, 2005, 01:22 PM

Guess Im not alone.

michael4000 · Jul 05, 2005, 01:49 PM

Well, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

In addition to the reasons that Jeffelammer listed, I often build cultural buildings in towns that are vulnerable to flipping. I've never looked at the math as to whether this is effective or not, but it feels like it helps.

Besides which, it's nice to know that the subjects have access to the higher things, even out in the sticks.

vmxa · Jul 05, 2005, 01:50 PM

I think you mean 21 tiles. Anyway towns (pop 6 or less) that are corrupt and will not be getting an aqua. Are not going to gain any land tiles from border expansion. No need for libs or temple and surely any more expensive culture building.

Once you see that towns can get by without any structures, you will start to get better about your addiction.

onomastikon · Jul 06, 2005, 07:53 AM

I am getting better -- still suffer from the disease, but feel that I really build them now for the *reasons* Jeff and Michael mentioned, especially early on.

A follow-up question, however

If a town is corrupt and thus will get no benefit from a Lib or whatever, then *what can you build with it anyhow*?? I mean, if you have a corrupt 6-size city where an aqueduct or culture structure just wont be worth it, what can you produce with 1 shield/turn? A tank will take you forever. In Older times, I suppose you could still make spearmen. But then I think -- what do I want with a military unit in 40 turns?

Ansar · Jul 06, 2005, 07:55 AM

Thats what specialists are for.

Tax Collector and Scientist, or if you have C3C , Civil Engineer or Policeman(could make it a workable city.)

Himalia · Jul 06, 2005, 08:18 AM

This topic is almost suggesting that ther may be some people who dont suffer this affliction. That cant be correct.

biggamer132 · Jul 06, 2005, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmxa

Once you see that towns can get by without any structures, you will start to get better about your addiction.

I cannot live with a library in every city. Since I'm planning to move up to a decent level (Regent) in my next game, I'm getting used to selling temples when no longer needed, but you can't take away my libraries. It'll be my only fix...

MSTK · Jul 06, 2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnsarKing101

Thats what specialists are for.

Tax Collector and Scientist, or if you have C3C , Civil Engineer or Policeman(could make it a workable city.)

XD, I don't know why I never thought of that.

Renata · Jul 06, 2005, 01:01 PM

Workers are always good in the early game if the town has at least 2fpt. If not, I tend to build warriors for MP, or if I'm out of despotism (or nearly so) already, I might build a couple of catapults.

Renata

Ansar · Jul 06, 2005, 07:04 PM

MSTK: Well now you do now dont you?

berserks01 · Jul 07, 2005, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renata

Workers are always good in the early game if the town has at least 2fpt. If not, I tend to build warriors for MP, or if I'm out of despotism (or nearly so) already, I might build a couple of catapults.

Renata

Catapults can be used as MP as well? Or are you just saying that you'll build catapults to use them? Sorry, just a little confused there

RandomInsanity · Jul 07, 2005, 08:04 AM

i just build the internet. Problem solved

DrakeRunner · Jul 09, 2005, 09:55 AM

I'm sorry, but just wandering past on my way here makes that very funny. Heheh, building the internet. Is there anything it can't solve?

And who cares if your city is at 6 and doesn't have aqua? You can still use the expanded culture zone to access better tiles, with bonuses on them. In fact, I had a game where my coastal city got SIX fish bonuses for its expansion :P

And... uh.... whats MP? Military Power?

Pentium · Jul 09, 2005, 11:52 AM

Military Police

Jul 05, 2005, 12:26 PM	#1
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	Culturally Addicted Can anyone please help me with this obsession of having at least ONE producing culture building in every one of my cities? __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Jul 05, 2005, 12:51 PM	#3
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Jul 05, 2005, 01:02 PM	#4
jeffelammar Space for rent Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 913	Well, the first step is admitting that you have a problem. Other than that, just remember the rule that applies to any and all buildings. Only build an improvement if you are going to get an advantage out of it. Reasons to build culture. 1. Need to claim territory (going for domination, city needs access to more squares, get a special tile) 2. Going for cultural victory (like I had to say it) 3. You need the cultural improvement for other reasons (happiness (rare), increased research, etc) Times not to. 1. City's 27 tiles are already in your cultural boundaries 2. City is corrupt and only produces 1 commerce (Libraries will do no good) __________________ I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar.

Jul 05, 2005, 01:22 PM	#5
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	Guess Im not alone. __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Jul 06, 2005, 07:55 AM	#9
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	Thats what specialists are for. Tax Collector and Scientist, or if you have C3C , Civil Engineer or Policeman(could make it a workable city.) __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Jul 05, 2005, 12:30 PM	#2
Twonky King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 671	Unfortunately I can´t. I suffer the same disease.

Jul 05, 2005, 01:49 PM	#6
michael4000 The Culture Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 163	Well, it's nothing to be ashamed of. In addition to the reasons that Jeffelammer listed, I often build cultural buildings in towns that are vulnerable to flipping. I've never looked at the math as to whether this is effective or not, but it feels like it helps. Besides which, it's nice to know that the subjects have access to the higher things, even out in the sticks.

Jul 05, 2005, 01:50 PM	#7
vmxa Deity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oviedo, Fl Posts: 13,259	I think you mean 21 tiles. Anyway towns (pop 6 or less) that are corrupt and will not be getting an aqua. Are not going to gain any land tiles from border expansion. No need for libs or temple and surely any more expensive culture building. Once you see that towns can get by without any structures, you will start to get better about your addiction.

Jul 06, 2005, 07:53 AM	#8
onomastikon Dual Wielding Banjos Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 388	I am getting better -- still suffer from the disease, but feel that I really build them now for the reasons Jeff and Michael mentioned, especially early on. A follow-up question, however If a town is corrupt and thus will get no benefit from a Lib or whatever, then what can you build with it anyhow?? I mean, if you have a corrupt 6-size city where an aqueduct or culture structure just wont be worth it, what can you produce with 1 shield/turn? A tank will take you forever. In Older times, I suppose you could still make spearmen. But then I think -- what do I want with a military unit in 40 turns?

Jul 06, 2005, 08:18 AM	#10
Himalia Overlord of Eternity. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 813	This topic is almost suggesting that ther may be some people who dont suffer this affliction. That cant be correct.

Jul 06, 2005, 01:01 PM	#13
Renata homicidal jungle cat Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NY Posts: 5,908	Workers are always good in the early game if the town has at least 2fpt. If not, I tend to build warriors for MP, or if I'm out of despotism (or nearly so) already, I might build a couple of catapults. Renata __________________ "'And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head.'" -- Terry Pratchett, in "Maskerade"

Jul 06, 2005, 07:04 PM	#14
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	MSTK: Well now you do now dont you? __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Jul 07, 2005, 08:04 AM	#16
RandomInsanity Warlord Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 162	i just build the internet. Problem solved

Jul 09, 2005, 09:55 AM	#17
DrakeRunner Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	I'm sorry, but just wandering past on my way here makes that very funny. Heheh, building the internet. Is there anything it can't solve? And who cares if your city is at 6 and doesn't have aqua? You can still use the expanded culture zone to access better tiles, with bonuses on them. In fact, I had a game where my coastal city got SIX fish bonuses for its expansion :P And... uh.... whats MP? Military Power?

Jul 09, 2005, 11:52 AM	#18
Pentium Digital Matter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: www.noughmad.org Posts: 2,673	Military Police __________________ Noughmad's Land Wouldn't it be great if you could ask a woman what she's thinking? - Jerry Seinfeld (Avatar by Mistfit)

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