Team Whomp *Spoiler*

[Whomp]

Hi everyone.





















Lets use this thread for some team discussion.

First things first.
We need a team name. This is not my team it's our team. Any thoughts?

On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.

One major difference in this game is we won't be able to manipulate humans the way we manipulate the AI. I think we'll be on a small map with 4 human opponents. It will get bloody early.

To start the discussions.
What civ would you like to play ranked 1-3?
I think the ag. trait is really huge.
1.Iroquois-- best 1st techs IMO, huge UU and great traits
2. Celts--pottery, gahmungous UU, and religious may have some benefit with short anarchy.
3. Mayans-- good 1st techs, average UU and good traits.
After that I would lean towards Aztecs over the Dutch on continents and pangea.
The Dutch start same as Iroquois on techs, UU is less interesting vs. humans and Seafaring may be worthless.
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The next most important tech to me is wheel after alpha and pot. Finding horses is huge.

Anything is open for discussion so post away.

[soul_warrior]

K.I.S.S. (Killer Intelligence Space Ship) is fine.
St. Simeon'sis another option (aka Simeaon the fool )
check out the holy dude
featherhead for supreme power

[Pentium]

There's only 7 of us, so I don't think we can have a hierarchy. KISS is the best!

Iroquis seem the best option for me, being AGR and having Alpha, with a very good UU.

Regarding the name, anything about Fools/Idiots/other stupid people is good.

[Ginger_Ale]

One note that RegentMan and I have decided on (before this thread was open, we aren't trying to limit you guys) is that only 2 of your top 3 civs can be AGR. We don't want this game to be an AGR-fest with everybody's 3 civs being IRO, CEL, SUM, etc...

Once we get a few more signups we will release the ruleset for any last minute changes and to see if everyone agrees.

[IroquoisPlisken]

What about Team K.I.S.S.?

I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.

I've always loved the Celtic UU, though.

Or we could be completely different and be someone like the Mongols. The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat.

[Pentium]

Originally Posted by IroquoisPlisken

I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.

This satement would be perfectly normal if you didn't have them is your name.

Originally Posted by IroquoisPlisken

The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat.

We could be Americans....

But I think Germany is a decent civ. Militaristic is good for MP, and we'll probably be the only SCI civ in the game. It'll ne easier to lead in techs, so we'll have superior units. And if we stand until IA, we have the game.

Edit: Plus, it starts with BW. We'd have swords after only 1 tech!

Edit 2: K.I.S.S. => Stupid It-Simple Keepers?

[Ginger_Ale]

Just finished actually reading your post...

Originally Posted by Whomp

On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.

All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.

Or is that not what you were saying?

[Pentium]

I think you read it right. We'll have a KISS system.

BTW: I actually think Team K.I.S.S. is a good name.

[Bede]

K.I.S.S is good.

Iro and Celts are killers. England is fun too if we ever get to MOW.

[Sir Bugsy]

I agree with my brother Bede. Iro, Celts and English in that order. How about team Grumpy?

[soul_warrior]

honourable sirs....
i would really, no REALLY like to play liz again...
after the humiliation i (we) have suffered in SW1, i need revenge!!!!

ps - if we want to make is even (that means easier on our rivals) why not pick Portugal?
underhanded, but if we pull this off, alll the more glory to us!

[Whomp]

Originally Posted by Ginger_Ale

Just finished actually reading your post...
All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.
Or is that not what you were saying?

Yeah that's what I'm meant GA. We will always have someone to play the save but I don't think we need a president/dictator dude or anything.

OK Ginger Ale said two ag and one non ag. Playing on small maps I would say we want an early UU so I'd vote.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persians
I think Militaristic and Seafaring are zero help in this type of game and my concern with the English is whether we'd see a GA.

Stupid is as stupid does. Team Big Idiots and Grumps? B.I.G or K.I.S.S. work for me? I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.

BTW let's not overestimate ourselves yet. None of us have PBEM skills or human vs. human experience from what I know.

[IroquoisPlisken]

I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.

I know I don't. *is 17*

Stupid is as stupid does.

Are you implying we should call ourselves Team Gump?

Those 3 civs sound good, Whomp. They all have early UUs, and they're all great UUs.

[Whomp]

A few other questions. We need a UN rep to bring back our team's responeses. Why don't I go ahead and act as our rep on this to K.I.S.S.
Do we have a color we'd like?
We need to pick 5 civs and only 2 of the first 3 can be ag. Here are mine.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Aztecs
5. Sumerians
How about the start? My thoughts are bold
Water %? 60%
Land Form? Could we get it so the continents have a coastal link?
AIs?No
Difficulty Level (for # of content citizens)?Emporer
Map Size (I am leaning towards small or tiny - no bigger than standard)?Tiny or small
Barbarians?No
Age? 4 Bill
Climate? normal
Temperature? normal

Another key question: do you want SoZ? If so, should it require Ivory? No from me but it's cuz I hate Wonders.
Should it produce Horsemen instead of ACs? No[/B]Any custom changes? I would like to have a way to reach the other continent early.
SGLs? On / off? Off

[IroquoisPlisken]

I've always like the Roman red.

The Civ choices I agree with.

I agree with Continents with a way for galleys to cross. Otherwise the diplomacy won't get interesting until late Middle Ages (and some Teams may be dead by then).

About AIs, personally I'd like to see one or two, but from what I've seen, no one else agrees with me.

SGLs and Barbs I agree should be off. If someone got lucky with a Leader or Goody Hut, they make take over the game.

Everything doesn't make a difference to me.

[Bede]

I'm a random kind of player so civ choices are always left up to the computer.

Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Continents with 60% water should make for reasonable diplomatic opportunities on standard or small maps.

Normal temp, damp climate, old world are my usual choices but I sense that there may be some differences in play here that I cannot account for.

Emperor is a good solid difficulty level.

SGL's and barbs off.

[Whomp]

Hopefully Sesn will post here soon and Darwin's band is rocking the whole state of Maine right now so maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.

Bede--I think the admins will determine randomly who were are located next to. I know a map has been requested.

Seems we have some consensus on Iroquois and Celts.
For #3
Bede, Bugs and SW like the English.
Pentium digs the Germans
and
IP and I like Persia.
Also we may need a 4th or 5th civ. I need to clarify whether these can be a ag civ after the first 2 of 3 are ag.

On the map we all agree SGLs and barbs off. SoZ?
Continents with a route would be nice. Smallish.

Bede likes an old world and after thinking about the mongering skills of this club I lean that way too. I think it could give us a bit of an edge.

Red it is unless someone objects.

Team K.I.S.S. or Team Grump or B.I.G.?

[Ginger_Ale]

Whomp: You cannot have your list of 5 be: AGR, AGR, AGR, NON-AGR, NON-AGR - only 2 of the first 3 can be AGR (and 1 more of the next 2 if you have a list of 5).

It seems this team has come to agree upon Continents, 60% water on a small (?) map - temperate climate, 3 billion, and wet? Please discuss.

Also, what about barbarians?

Originally Posted by Bede

Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Your opponents are following the same process, selecting the top 3 or top 5 civs they would like to be.

[soul_warrior]

what is your favorite colour? RED!
what is your quest? to K.I.S.S
what is your country like? i dont care!

wrong answer

[Whomp]

GA I think Bede and I like 5 billion years. No barbs or SGLs. Too random. I still say no on SoZ. Team?

I think the team agrees with Iroquois and Celts. The only question is whether the other teams will also have Iroquois as their #1. Should we have Celts #1?

For #3 we are still in the air so please post your non ag #3 to #5.
I like
Persians
Romans
Japanese

We would like red as our team color.