Slaves from Javelin Throwers...

Invisible Rhino · Jul 16, 2005, 09:41 PM

If a Mayan UU kills one of your units and catches a slave, when you capture the slave do you pay support for it? I'd try to figure it but I can't count that high without getting bored :P

vmxa · Jul 16, 2005, 10:10 PM

Good question, but I have never had it happen. When you capture the slave, it will either stay a slave and be free or revert to a native worker and cost.

Invisible Rhino · Jul 17, 2005, 12:24 AM

It turns into a "normal" worker unit (not a slave) but I was wondering if I pay support cost for it...or does it just treat it like it was originally mine and I captured it back? Curious, I'm sure someone has tested this or knows the answer somewhere.

Theoden · Jul 17, 2005, 02:56 AM

If the description of the unit says "worker" then you pay support for it. If it says for example "worker(spanish)" or any other nationality then you don't pay support.

colontos · Jul 22, 2005, 12:22 AM

do you have to pay support for captured artillery?

Twonky · Jul 22, 2005, 12:59 AM

No, they are for free!

Tomoyo · Jul 22, 2005, 09:44 AM

I believe that a worker enslaved by a Javelin Thrower will become to country of the unit the Javelin Thrower killed, including Barbarians.

(Never join a barbarian worker to your cities by the way)

madviking · Jul 22, 2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomoyo

Never join a barbarian worker to your cities by the way

I did that once in a hotseat game. It was always uinhappy. I was wondering, "Why???". And it said it was unhappy because i was "agressing againtst their mother country" L

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VladTepes · Jul 22, 2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Invisible Rhino

It turns into a "normal" worker unit (not a slave) but I was wondering if I pay support cost for it...or does it just treat it like it was originally mine and I captured it back? Curious, I'm sure someone has tested this or knows the answer somewhere.

It DOES turn into a slave, and it doesn't get the industrious bonus either. I use them to build roads or turn them into outposts or radar towers.

Pentium · Jul 22, 2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by colontos

do you have to pay support for captured artillery?

No, but it's very hard to capture an artillery from the AI. First you have to rewrite the game.

ThePrankMonkey · Jul 22, 2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pentium

No, but it's very hard to capture an artillery from the AI. First you have to rewrite the game.

i captured a trebuchet and turned it into artillery. it kept its original nationality too. does that count technically?

Invisible Rhino · Jul 22, 2005, 03:51 PM

@ VladTepes : It doesn't get the 'slave' icon and it isn't listed as being from a nation and it completes work in the same amount of time as my non-slave workers, so I'd say it definitely gets the inudstrious bonus.

VladTepes · Jul 22, 2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Invisible Rhino

@ VladTepes : It doesn't get the 'slave' icon and it isn't listed as being from a nation and it completes work in the same amount of time as my non-slave workers, so I'd say it definitely gets the inudstrious bonus.

Are we playing the same game?

The sprite has shackles. It takes twice as long to do a task than my regular workers.

Oh, it says "A Barbarian Chiefdom."

Maybe it's because I capture barbarians?

Invisible Rhino · Jul 22, 2005, 07:50 PM

Ok...you didn't read my post. Nevermind.

colontos · Jul 23, 2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pentium

No, but it's very hard to capture an artillery from the AI. First you have to rewrite the game.

???
I capture them from the AI all the time...am I missing something here?

BTW, by "artillery" I meant all units that function as artillery in the tactical sense (so catapults, trebs, and cannons are all artillery).

Gangstaman590 · Jul 24, 2005, 07:35 AM

Can you sell your people off as slaves for money, peace, etc. whenever you want? Or must you only capture theirs and sell it back?

classical_hero · Jul 24, 2005, 07:49 AM

You can do whatever you want with your workers. For them to be tradeable, they must be in you capital first.

Gangstaman590 · Jul 24, 2005, 11:58 AM

Ok, so thats how it works.

Stormfalcon1970 · Jul 30, 2005, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Pentium
No, but it's very hard to capture an artillery from the AI. First you have to rewrite the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by colontos

???
I capture them from the AI all the time...am I missing something here?

BTW, by "artillery" I meant all units that function as artillery in the tactical sense (so catapults, trebs, and cannons are all artillery).

I do too. I have about a half dozen of them in my current game. All native to assimilated Civs

Too bad you can't capture ships in harbor too

Jul 16, 2005, 09:41 PM	#1
Invisible Rhino Prince Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 413	Slaves from Javelin Throwers... If a Mayan UU kills one of your units and catches a slave, when you capture the slave do you pay support for it? I'd try to figure it but I can't count that high without getting bored :P

Jul 16, 2005, 10:10 PM	#2
vmxa Deity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oviedo, Fl Posts: 13,259	Good question, but I have never had it happen. When you capture the slave, it will either stay a slave and be free or revert to a native worker and cost. Last edited by vmxa; Jul 17, 2005 at 01:52 PM.

Jul 17, 2005, 02:56 AM	#4
Theoden Deity Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,569	If the description of the unit says "worker" then you pay support for it. If it says for example "worker(spanish)" or any other nationality then you don't pay support. __________________ "I have seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars." GOTM \| Quick Games

Jul 22, 2005, 09:44 AM	#7
Tomoyo Fate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 9,697	I believe that a worker enslaved by a Javelin Thrower will become to country of the unit the Javelin Thrower killed, including Barbarians. (Never join a barbarian worker to your cities by the way) __________________ No one can make the sun rise, but even I can turn on the lights.

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Jul 17, 2005, 12:24 AM	#3
Invisible Rhino Prince Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 413	It turns into a "normal" worker unit (not a slave) but I was wondering if I pay support cost for it...or does it just treat it like it was originally mine and I captured it back? Curious, I'm sure someone has tested this or knows the answer somewhere.

Jul 22, 2005, 12:22 AM	#5
colontos King Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 660	do you have to pay support for captured artillery?

Jul 22, 2005, 12:59 AM	#6
Twonky King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 671	No, they are for free!

Jul 22, 2005, 03:51 PM	#12
Invisible Rhino Prince Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 413	@ VladTepes : It doesn't get the 'slave' icon and it isn't listed as being from a nation and it completes work in the same amount of time as my non-slave workers, so I'd say it definitely gets the inudstrious bonus.

Jul 22, 2005, 07:50 PM	#14
Invisible Rhino Prince Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 413	Ok...you didn't read my post. Nevermind.

Jul 24, 2005, 07:35 AM	#16
Gangstaman590 Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 15	Can you sell your people off as slaves for money, peace, etc. whenever you want? Or must you only capture theirs and sell it back?

Jul 24, 2005, 11:58 AM	#18
Gangstaman590 Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 15	Ok, so thats how it works.

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