English Football thread No.3 - Page 2

farting bob · Aug 01, 2005, 10:35 AM

Well he was wasted at real madrid (like so many of the superstars that have gone there and ended up plaing 1 season as a sub) so it isnt surprising he's looking to be coming back to england.

classical_hero · Aug 01, 2005, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farting bob

Well he was wasted at real madrid (like so many of the superstars that have gone there and ended up plaing 1 season as a sub) so it isnt surprising he's looking to be coming back to england.

Madrid are foolish for giving up on him. I believe that he is much better than the two Galacticos in Raul and Ronaldo.

Dell19 · Aug 01, 2005, 10:42 AM

That rumour has been around for a while since Owen basically needs to move away from Real.

classical_hero · Aug 01, 2005, 10:45 AM

It seems to be gathering strength.

farting bob · Aug 01, 2005, 10:47 AM

Its a big boulder of a rumour now i think.
Maybe he should go to everton, that'll please the liverpool faithfull.

Himalia · Aug 01, 2005, 03:34 PM

Looks like he is heading for Manchester united should be intresting seeing im team up with Rooney. But hey what about Niselroy. Prehaps a 4-3-3 ?

phoenix_night · Aug 07, 2005, 10:00 AM

Community Shield
Arsenal 1 - 2 Chelsea

Lambert Simnel · Aug 08, 2005, 06:53 AM

I can't really see Chelsea not winning the championship. I thought of setting up a poll here, but is there any point if we only need one option ? Of course, I'd like to see Man U (as my preferred premiership team) win it, but I don't think it's that likely.

I think booing Ferdinand is OK. The manager and the club stood beside him to a tremendous extent during his doping absence, and he appears to be ignoring that now whilst being driven purely by the want of more money. Bleah.

Essien is on even dodgier ground IMHO. He has a freely signed contract, and a job to do. But he's going to sit out unless he gets to go to Chelsea. Quite outrageous, I reckon.

naervod · Aug 08, 2005, 02:30 PM

Unfortunately, I don't really see anyone but Chelsea winning again. I just hope it doesn't turn into United's run in the 90s where they won ridiculously large amounts of titles. That would be too painful for me to watch. I think Arsenal will again be Chelsea's closest chaser, but fairly far behind. I think Manchester United will start sinking, as it appears they are falling apart, teams like Liverpool (which I certainly hope), Middlesbrough, and even Man City or Bolton could move up, and will contest for European spots, and the fourth, or possibly third spot, depending on United's performances. Newcastle needs to step it up, but as was mentioned before, that seems unlikely to happen under Soueness. I don't really expect much change in mid-table, though I think Villa and Tottenham could push up a little. Charlton and Birmingham will probably stay around where they finished last season. As for the bottom, I see Fulham, Blackburn, West Brom, possibly Pompey, and the newly promoted teams, Sunderland, Wigan, and West Ham as relegation battlers. My belief is that two of the newly promoted teams will go back down, definitely Wigan, and my hunch is Sunderland. West Ham has a decent chance of staying up, and if they do, it will probably be West Brom or Fulham to go down. Oh yeah, I forgot Everton. I think it will be a mid-table for them. No new big signings and now the additional task of the CL.

My prediction for 05-06 looks something like:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Manchester United
4. Liverpool
---
5. Middlesbrough
6. Bolton Wanderers
---
7. Manchester City
8. Tottenham
9. Everton
10. Aston Villa
11. Birmingham City
12. Newcastle United
13. Charlton Athletic
14. Blackburn Rovers
15. Portsmouth
16. West Brom
17. West Ham
---
18. Fulham
19. Sunderland
20. Wigan

On another note, Rio has finally signed a new contract, until 2009, so that should pleased ManYoo fans quite a bit. Regarding Owen, I now hear he's also wanted by Newcastle. While I'd rather see him at Newcastle than at United based on the fact I don't particularly like United (being a Liverpool fan), but since Owen is also one of my favorite players I'm really afraid he and his career might suffer under the (mis)management of Soueness. Regarding Essien, he needs to play for Lyon until a deal happens. From what I can reckon, he is pouting because he can't play for Chelsea despite the fact he does have "a freely signed contract", as Lambert put it. He needs to grow up. Besides, do Chelsea really need more players? They practically have enough for two teams that could separately challenge for the league.

Gr3yL3gion · Aug 19, 2005, 01:06 PM

So what do you guys think about this Sunday's match between Chelsea-Arsenal?
As a Arsenal fan, I'll hope Arsenal will win this match.
Result: Chelsea 0 Arsenal 1

Dell19 · Aug 19, 2005, 01:53 PM

A draw would be good with plenty of red cards leading to lengthy bans for both sides.

naervod · Aug 19, 2005, 05:35 PM

It'll be a draw. Chelsea the slightly better team, but Arsenal have home advantage and Wenger doesn't want to lose his 500th game in charge. Of courses it would be even better with Dell's idea.

classical_hero · Aug 20, 2005, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dell19

A draw would be good with plenty of red cards leading to lengthy bans for both sides.

Spoken like a true Manchester United Fan. And those bans will have to end just after the meet Manchester United.

In all seriousness, I do hope that it is a showcase game, afterall the two teams have not been playing that well.

Gr3yL3gion · Aug 20, 2005, 11:02 AM

Well, MU didn't fare much better when they only won 1-0 againts Villa. I just finished watching the Liverpool game, and to be fair, they didn't look like European champions at all.

naervod · Aug 21, 2005, 02:21 PM

Hrm, 1-0 to Chelsea on a fluke goal, it seems they've been lucky these opening two games, they could easily have one or two points now instead of six. They're hosting West Brom midweek, and given how Chelsea have scraped through, and WBA are ready to get points we could be in for a wild ride.

farting bob · Aug 21, 2005, 02:46 PM

Chelsea were lucky to win IMO, and have not made a very convincing start to the season. However, they have won what most teams would call the toughest match of he season: away to arsenal. And winning close games is what wins you the championship in the end. You cant win all games with a brilliant 5-0 domination.

Lambert Simnel · Aug 21, 2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farting bob

Chelsea were lucky to win IMO, and have not made a very convincing start to the season. However, they have won what most teams would call the toughest match of he season: away to arsenal.

Urr, weren't Chelsea at home ?

A lucky goal, but a deserved win, IMHO.

naervod · Aug 21, 2005, 08:26 PM

Chelsea were indeed at home today. It's kind of anticlimactic really, seeing as the first Chelsea-Arsenal game last year was pretty controversial and this being rather lackluster.

Gr3yL3gion · Aug 21, 2005, 08:57 PM

Chelsea did well and stick to their plan to beat Arsenal in their first time in 10 years in Premiership.

My biggest concern now are
-Thierry Henry as the new captain, I rather have someone in the midfield taking the captain role. Henry to me seem rather distracted by the captain duties and didn't get to play at his best levels.
-lack of plan B from Wenger, to me Arsenal are incapable to play their football if the situation didn't go their way

Anyway, Hleb did play well in the first half but fade away in the second. Hope that Ljungberg injury isn't too serious...

Congrats to Chelsea fans for their first win in 10 years

phoenix_night · Aug 22, 2005, 09:59 AM

Apparently Dave Whelan is trying to get Michael Owen playing at the JJB.

Aug 01, 2005, 10:35 AM	#21
farting bob ThEy MaDe Me Do iT. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK (sussex) Posts: 3,169	Well he was wasted at real madrid (like so many of the superstars that have gone there and ended up plaing 1 season as a sub) so it isnt surprising he's looking to be coming back to england. __________________ "I want to shoot people in the face, bang prostitutes, traffic drugs, steal cars, and terrorize police officers without this filthy smut in my game." - discussing the GTA hot coffee mod. Thats 1 small step for man....1 giant leap for mankind, womankind, those of transgender and alternative lifestyles, mobility, visual and hearing impaired, of all races, origins and demonitations. - Revised speech for next NASA moonlanding.

Aug 01, 2005, 10:42 AM	#23
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Aug 01, 2005, 10:47 AM	#25
farting bob ThEy MaDe Me Do iT. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK (sussex) Posts: 3,169	Its a big boulder of a rumour now i think. Maybe he should go to everton, that'll please the liverpool faithfull. __________________ "I want to shoot people in the face, bang prostitutes, traffic drugs, steal cars, and terrorize police officers without this filthy smut in my game." - discussing the GTA hot coffee mod. Thats 1 small step for man....1 giant leap for mankind, womankind, those of transgender and alternative lifestyles, mobility, visual and hearing impaired, of all races, origins and demonitations. - Revised speech for next NASA moonlanding.

Aug 08, 2005, 06:53 AM	#28
Lambert Simnel One across Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Winterhold Posts: 4,968	I can't really see Chelsea not winning the championship. I thought of setting up a poll here, but is there any point if we only need one option ? Of course, I'd like to see Man U (as my preferred premiership team) win it, but I don't think it's that likely. I think booing Ferdinand is OK. The manager and the club stood beside him to a tremendous extent during his doping absence, and he appears to be ignoring that now whilst being driven purely by the want of more money. Bleah. Essien is on even dodgier ground IMHO. He has a freely signed contract, and a job to do. But he's going to sit out unless he gets to go to Chelsea. Quite outrageous, I reckon. __________________ Ring the bells that still can ring Forget your perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in.

Aug 01, 2005, 03:34 PM	#26
Himalia Overlord of Eternity. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 813	Looks like he is heading for Manchester united should be intresting seeing im team up with Rooney. But hey what about Niselroy. Prehaps a 4-3-3 ?

Aug 07, 2005, 10:00 AM	#27
phoenix_night Deity Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,853	Community Shield Arsenal 1 - 2 Chelsea

Aug 08, 2005, 02:30 PM	#29
naervod My current user title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,327	Unfortunately, I don't really see anyone but Chelsea winning again. I just hope it doesn't turn into United's run in the 90s where they won ridiculously large amounts of titles. That would be too painful for me to watch. I think Arsenal will again be Chelsea's closest chaser, but fairly far behind. I think Manchester United will start sinking, as it appears they are falling apart, teams like Liverpool (which I certainly hope), Middlesbrough, and even Man City or Bolton could move up, and will contest for European spots, and the fourth, or possibly third spot, depending on United's performances. Newcastle needs to step it up, but as was mentioned before, that seems unlikely to happen under Soueness. I don't really expect much change in mid-table, though I think Villa and Tottenham could push up a little. Charlton and Birmingham will probably stay around where they finished last season. As for the bottom, I see Fulham, Blackburn, West Brom, possibly Pompey, and the newly promoted teams, Sunderland, Wigan, and West Ham as relegation battlers. My belief is that two of the newly promoted teams will go back down, definitely Wigan, and my hunch is Sunderland. West Ham has a decent chance of staying up, and if they do, it will probably be West Brom or Fulham to go down. Oh yeah, I forgot Everton. I think it will be a mid-table for them. No new big signings and now the additional task of the CL. My prediction for 05-06 looks something like: 1. Chelsea 2. Arsenal 3. Manchester United 4. Liverpool --- 5. Middlesbrough 6. Bolton Wanderers --- 7. Manchester City 8. Tottenham 9. Everton 10. Aston Villa 11. Birmingham City 12. Newcastle United 13. Charlton Athletic 14. Blackburn Rovers 15. Portsmouth 16. West Brom 17. West Ham --- 18. Fulham 19. Sunderland 20. Wigan On another note, Rio has finally signed a new contract, until 2009, so that should pleased ManYoo fans quite a bit. Regarding Owen, I now hear he's also wanted by Newcastle. While I'd rather see him at Newcastle than at United based on the fact I don't particularly like United (being a Liverpool fan), but since Owen is also one of my favorite players I'm really afraid he and his career might suffer under the (mis)management of Soueness. Regarding Essien, he needs to play for Lyon until a deal happens. From what I can reckon, he is pouting because he can't play for Chelsea despite the fact he does have "a freely signed contract", as Lambert put it. He needs to grow up. Besides, do Chelsea really need more players? They practically have enough for two teams that could separately challenge for the league. __________________ "Dopo la letteratora e l'eros il calcio é uno dei grandi piaceri." -Pier Paolo Pasolini

Aug 19, 2005, 01:06 PM	#30
Gr3yL3gion Voice of Madness Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: KL, Malaysia<->Singapore Posts: 2,202	So what do you guys think about this Sunday's match between Chelsea-Arsenal? As a Arsenal fan, I'll hope Arsenal will win this match. Result: Chelsea 0 Arsenal 1 __________________ When you play with fire You will expect to get burned Finger licking good

Aug 19, 2005, 01:53 PM	#31
Dell19 Take a break Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London Posts: 15,881	A draw would be good with plenty of red cards leading to lengthy bans for both sides. __________________ The MTW Succession game at CFC and the Viking Invasion succession game!, may be back one day. The Unification of Russia - A EUII AAR! Venice, a Great Power - A EUII AAR! Aragon, Catalan Independence - A EUII AAR! Italian EUII AAR - Who can stop the Ottomans? The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Aug 19, 2005, 05:35 PM	#32
naervod My current user title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,327	It'll be a draw. Chelsea the slightly better team, but Arsenal have home advantage and Wenger doesn't want to lose his 500th game in charge. Of courses it would be even better with Dell's idea. __________________ "Dopo la letteratora e l'eros il calcio é uno dei grandi piaceri." -Pier Paolo Pasolini

Aug 20, 2005, 11:02 AM	#34
Gr3yL3gion Voice of Madness Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: KL, Malaysia<->Singapore Posts: 2,202	Well, MU didn't fare much better when they only won 1-0 againts Villa. I just finished watching the Liverpool game, and to be fair, they didn't look like European champions at all. __________________ When you play with fire You will expect to get burned Finger licking good

Aug 21, 2005, 02:21 PM	#35
naervod My current user title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,327	Hrm, 1-0 to Chelsea on a fluke goal, it seems they've been lucky these opening two games, they could easily have one or two points now instead of six. They're hosting West Brom midweek, and given how Chelsea have scraped through, and WBA are ready to get points we could be in for a wild ride. __________________ "Dopo la letteratora e l'eros il calcio é uno dei grandi piaceri." -Pier Paolo Pasolini

Aug 21, 2005, 02:46 PM	#36
farting bob ThEy MaDe Me Do iT. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK (sussex) Posts: 3,169	Chelsea were lucky to win IMO, and have not made a very convincing start to the season. However, they have won what most teams would call the toughest match of he season: away to arsenal. And winning close games is what wins you the championship in the end. You cant win all games with a brilliant 5-0 domination. __________________ "I want to shoot people in the face, bang prostitutes, traffic drugs, steal cars, and terrorize police officers without this filthy smut in my game." - discussing the GTA hot coffee mod. Thats 1 small step for man....1 giant leap for mankind, womankind, those of transgender and alternative lifestyles, mobility, visual and hearing impaired, of all races, origins and demonitations. - Revised speech for next NASA moonlanding.

Aug 21, 2005, 08:26 PM	#38
naervod My current user title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,327	Chelsea were indeed at home today. It's kind of anticlimactic really, seeing as the first Chelsea-Arsenal game last year was pretty controversial and this being rather lackluster. __________________ "Dopo la letteratora e l'eros il calcio é uno dei grandi piaceri." -Pier Paolo Pasolini

Aug 21, 2005, 08:57 PM	#39
Gr3yL3gion Voice of Madness Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: KL, Malaysia<->Singapore Posts: 2,202	Chelsea did well and stick to their plan to beat Arsenal in their first time in 10 years in Premiership. My biggest concern now are -Thierry Henry as the new captain, I rather have someone in the midfield taking the captain role. Henry to me seem rather distracted by the captain duties and didn't get to play at his best levels. -lack of plan B from Wenger, to me Arsenal are incapable to play their football if the situation didn't go their way Anyway, Hleb did play well in the first half but fade away in the second. Hope that Ljungberg injury isn't too serious... Congrats to Chelsea fans for their first win in 10 years __________________ When you play with fire You will expect to get burned Finger licking good

Aug 22, 2005, 09:59 AM	#40
phoenix_night Deity Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,853	Apparently Dave Whelan is trying to get Michael Owen playing at the JJB.

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