CivIV planning thread

Mark1031 · Oct 20, 2005, 01:59 PM

Well I know it is premature but I am going crazy waiting for this game and hope to explore much of it in SGs as I have found it quite a fun format. So I am thinking of starting 3 games or joining similar ones on the 26th or 27th to explore the various new features.

Slicing Samuri, Japan: Primary focus on war. Japan Aggressive & Organized; starts with Fishing & The Wheel. Looks good for early expansion and Samuri sounds quite powerful and comes at a nice time for war.

Hindu Jihad, India: Primary focus on Religion. Industrious & Spiritual; Mysticism & Mining. Grab an early religion or 2 and aggressively spread it. Also spiritual so should try lots of civic configurations.

Philosophical Fredrick, Germany: Primary focus on Culture, great people. Creative & Philosophical; Hunting & Mining. Try for peaceful culture, UN space win.

I would prefer to start at Emperor or the equivalent unless a pretest shows a great improvement in the AI. I guess we should wait for the civIV SG thread to start sign ups but I’m curious as to what kind of games/levels people are planning/interested in.

Own · Oct 20, 2005, 02:43 PM

I don't know enough about the game yet to plan an SG, but I'll be joining some (everyone is gonna rush to start their own, so I'll start out joining instead of starting).

nerovats · Oct 20, 2005, 02:57 PM

I'll probably join or start an SG as soon as I get my copy. Play 1 quick game on my own to get to know the differences. Emperor sounds ok, even with an improved AI.

madviking · Oct 20, 2005, 03:04 PM

I'm getting Civ4 as soon as I can, so I might come in. (i didn't preorder it).

Mathias · Oct 20, 2005, 03:09 PM

I might not be able to pick it up on day one, but as soon as I do, I'll start an OCC Space Race game.

Own · Oct 20, 2005, 03:13 PM

I wonder if OCC will be doable in cIV.

I preordered, I have no speakers so I need the soundtrack to hear the music

. Also that instructions manual will help. Delayed my "learning of the basics" of civ3 by a long time by not having one.

Methos · Oct 20, 2005, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

I might not be able to pick it up on day one, but as soon as I do, I'll start an OCC Space Race game.

Count this as an early sign-up Mathias. I'm wondering if an OCC game will be as challenging as in CivIII? CivIV seems to suggest fewer cities are better.

I also plan on joining SG's but will play at least one solo game. SG's seem to be a better way to learn IMO.

Sirian · Oct 20, 2005, 05:22 PM

When are they going to open the Civ4 SG forum?

Greebley · Oct 20, 2005, 05:26 PM

Padma mentioned this weekend is likely.

I actually sent thunderfall a note saying it would be nice if it opened a bit before the release, so he should be aware of the issue (preplanning games) (it also gave me the chance to thank him for this excellent site).

Lord_Iggy · Oct 20, 2005, 05:28 PM

Probably just after they make a Civ4 S&T forum.

Greebley · Oct 20, 2005, 05:46 PM

Reference thread

I was noticing a post which listed some of the setting possible in Civ4. I thought several were very intriguing variants to try playing

Not Technology trading, Always war, alliances, one city challenge, No city razing are just some of them.

No tech trading and no razing seemed the most interesting variants mostly because they are not easy in Civ. I am wondering if this is true for the AI as well. I would think so.

Also we have a step above Always war - All AI are allied against you. Scary monsters! (but how I often played Heroes III).

There will definitely be new variants to explore. I also like having always war and OCC "baked in" as options.

ThERat · Oct 21, 2005, 05:19 AM

guys, just make sure you don't forget about me for the games, latest I heard is that Civ4 ships here only on Nov11

Sullla · Oct 21, 2005, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark1031

I would prefer to start at Emperor or the equivalent unless a pretest shows a great improvement in the AI. I guess we should wait for the civIV SG thread to start sign ups but I’m curious as to what kind of games/levels people are planning/interested in.

Great to see people getting ready for Civ4!

But look - take my advice on this one. Don't start your first succession game on Emperor. It won't be any fun for you guys. Try your first game on Noble and then move up from there after you have a better understanding of what's going on. Obviously you should feel free to do whatever you think will be the most fun, but don't say I didn't warn you...

Mark1031 · Oct 21, 2005, 03:32 PM

Do you have some inside info, B-tester perhaps? I will play a quick one, probably 1 level lower to see the mechanics and whether I can get into a strong position. If it looks like a struggle I will start lower. I'd say I like to shoot for about a 75% chance of winning in a SG but prefer to feel like I'm loosing throughout.

Own · Oct 21, 2005, 03:41 PM

I'll first play the lowest so I can learn the mechanics without the AI in my way, then I'll try emperor quivalent.

Methos · Oct 21, 2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark1031

Do you have some inside info, B-tester perhaps?

Check the bottom right-side of the screen here.

Edit: The screenshot is from the MP preview by Chieftess.

Speaker · Oct 21, 2005, 11:21 PM

It'll be nice to start afresh, "sleeveless," as Sirian might put it. Hopefully it takes us a long time to really get the hang of the game and develop the cookie cutter strategies that were so successful by the days of C3C.

I'm up for whatever the RB gang wants to do. Perhaps a game on 'Noble' to explore the game with some of our more (ahem) experienced team members along for the ride....

Renata · Oct 22, 2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methos

Check the bottom right-side of the screen here.

Edit: The screenshot is from the MP preview by Chieftess.

Caught!

Arathorn · Oct 22, 2005, 07:16 PM

Do we even know the difficulty levels? What's the easiest to hardest list? What's "even" -- Civ3's regeant level? I've heard 9 levels, but.... Where does "Noble" fit into that list?

Arathorn

Speaker · Oct 22, 2005, 07:53 PM

I'm pretty sure 'Noble' is the Civ3 equivalent to 'Regeant.' No advantages either way.

Oct 20, 2005, 01:59 PM	#1
Mark1031 Deity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 5,140	CivIV planning thread Well I know it is premature but I am going crazy waiting for this game and hope to explore much of it in SGs as I have found it quite a fun format. So I am thinking of starting 3 games or joining similar ones on the 26th or 27th to explore the various new features. Slicing Samuri, Japan: Primary focus on war. Japan Aggressive & Organized; starts with Fishing & The Wheel. Looks good for early expansion and Samuri sounds quite powerful and comes at a nice time for war. Hindu Jihad, India: Primary focus on Religion. Industrious & Spiritual; Mysticism & Mining. Grab an early religion or 2 and aggressively spread it. Also spiritual so should try lots of civic configurations. Philosophical Fredrick, Germany: Primary focus on Culture, great people. Creative & Philosophical; Hunting & Mining. Try for peaceful culture, UN space win. I would prefer to start at Emperor or the equivalent unless a pretest shows a great improvement in the AI. I guess we should wait for the civIV SG thread to start sign ups but I’m curious as to what kind of games/levels people are planning/interested in. __________________ "In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy." Matt Taibbi

Oct 20, 2005, 02:43 PM	#2
Own Grasshoppah Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,448	I don't know enough about the game yet to plan an SG, but I'll be joining some (everyone is gonna rush to start their own, so I'll start out joining instead of starting). __________________ Own Deity Story AWD on Standard Pangaea

Oct 20, 2005, 03:04 PM	#4
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Oct 20, 2005, 03:13 PM	#6
Own Grasshoppah Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,448	I wonder if OCC will be doable in cIV. I preordered, I have no speakers so I need the soundtrack to hear the music . Also that instructions manual will help. Delayed my "learning of the basics" of civ3 by a long time by not having one. __________________ Own Deity Story AWD on Standard Pangaea

Oct 20, 2005, 05:22 PM	#8
Sirian Civ V Map Designer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 3,641	When are they going to open the Civ4 SG forum? __________________ Fortune favors the bold.

Oct 20, 2005, 02:57 PM	#3
nerovats Emperor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fryslân Posts: 1,591	I'll probably join or start an SG as soon as I get my copy. Play 1 quick game on my own to get to know the differences. Emperor sounds ok, even with an improved AI.

Oct 20, 2005, 03:09 PM	#5
Mathias OCC Rocks! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,444	I might not be able to pick it up on day one, but as soon as I do, I'll start an OCC Space Race game.

Oct 20, 2005, 05:26 PM	#9
Greebley Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston Area, MA Posts: 8,625	Padma mentioned this weekend is likely. I actually sent thunderfall a note saying it would be nice if it opened a bit before the release, so he should be aware of the issue (preplanning games) (it also gave me the chance to thank him for this excellent site). __________________ Playing in: LK147 - World map, China, Rat45 - CCM limted city Diety Total Completed SGs: over 160

Oct 20, 2005, 05:28 PM	#10
Lord_Iggy Penguin in a Human Suit Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yukon Posts: 23,269	Probably just after they make a Civ4 S&T forum. __________________ NESLife VI Life as You've Never Seen it Before!

Oct 20, 2005, 05:46 PM	#11
Greebley Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston Area, MA Posts: 8,625	some interesting options... Reference thread I was noticing a post which listed some of the setting possible in Civ4. I thought several were very intriguing variants to try playing Not Technology trading, Always war, alliances, one city challenge, No city razing are just some of them. No tech trading and no razing seemed the most interesting variants mostly because they are not easy in Civ. I am wondering if this is true for the AI as well. I would think so. Also we have a step above Always war - All AI are allied against you. Scary monsters! (but how I often played Heroes III). There will definitely be new variants to explore. I also like having always war and OCC "baked in" as options. __________________ Playing in: LK147 - World map, China, Rat45 - CCM limted city Diety Total Completed SGs: over 160

Oct 21, 2005, 05:19 AM	#12
ThERat Deity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: City of one angel Posts: 10,515	guys, just make sure you don't forget about me for the games, latest I heard is that Civ4 ships here only on Nov11 __________________ Civ 3: SG wins : among others SID, DG OCC, AWS small, 3 AWD (standard map), AWE/20k, 5CC AWE, RaR: SID Civ4 SG highlights: 4 immortal wins (UN/3 dom), AWE Rome, AWP hub

Oct 21, 2005, 03:32 PM	#14
Mark1031 Deity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 5,140	Do you have some inside info, B-tester perhaps? I will play a quick one, probably 1 level lower to see the mechanics and whether I can get into a strong position. If it looks like a struggle I will start lower. I'd say I like to shoot for about a 75% chance of winning in a SG but prefer to feel like I'm loosing throughout. __________________ "In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy." Matt Taibbi

Oct 21, 2005, 03:41 PM	#15
Own Grasshoppah Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,448	I'll first play the lowest so I can learn the mechanics without the AI in my way, then I'll try emperor quivalent. __________________ Own Deity Story AWD on Standard Pangaea

Oct 21, 2005, 11:21 PM	#17
Speaker Deity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Section 1 Posts: 2,097	It'll be nice to start afresh, "sleeveless," as Sirian might put it. Hopefully it takes us a long time to really get the hang of the game and develop the cookie cutter strategies that were so successful by the days of C3C. I'm up for whatever the RB gang wants to do. Perhaps a game on 'Noble' to explore the game with some of our more (ahem) experienced team members along for the ride.... __________________ Admin, Civ4players Ladder Former Firaxis QA Tester Realms Beyond Civilization First Recorded Sid Victory Last edited by Speaker; Oct 21, 2005 at 11:25 PM.

Oct 22, 2005, 07:16 PM	#19
Arathorn Catan player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,767	Do we even know the difficulty levels? What's the easiest to hardest list? What's "even" -- Civ3's regeant level? I've heard 9 levels, but.... Where does "Noble" fit into that list? Arathorn __________________ "All that is gold does not glitter..." Civ4 - LotR Series of Succession Games LotR27 Science-Scorning Spacists Passing the Torch Old Civ3 stuff - Variants Sid Always War LotR Series of SGs

Oct 22, 2005, 07:53 PM	#20
Speaker Deity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Section 1 Posts: 2,097	I'm pretty sure 'Noble' is the Civ3 equivalent to 'Regeant.' No advantages either way. __________________ Admin, Civ4players Ladder Former Firaxis QA Tester Realms Beyond Civilization First Recorded Sid Victory

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