Great Artists as a weapon.

trogdorix · Oct 30, 2005, 07:04 PM

On the center of my continent, I had just created a new city. Soon after. three different AIs surrounded my city with a total of five new cites. I happened to get a Great Artist at my capital, and moved it to the new city aforementioned.

Using the "creat great work" option, the Great Artist was effectively a *culture bomb*, and my borders expanded and eventually culture fliped those five cities all within another 20-25 turns.

This may not work as well in later stages of the game. but using great artists along a border can just give that extra boost to take a few extra cities without the hastle of a full fledged war.

La_Musica · Oct 30, 2005, 07:08 PM

wow, 25 turns? what dificulty level were you on?

I just played a game on warlord, won it with space race victory. I couldn't get any citys to flop until the modern age and I was the culture/religous leader the whole game.

what i'm trying to figure out is, does dificulty levels have anything to do with how easy you can make a city flop to you?

Prince David · Oct 30, 2005, 07:36 PM

Sulla's walk through talks several times about the strategic use of Great Artists. They're also good for newly conquered cities. Not only do they push back borders, but the new borders are often so huge they can rapidly fill in the gaps around other conquered cities. Culture improves your city defense, too.

trogdorix · Oct 30, 2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by La_Musica

wow, 25 turns? what dificulty level were you on?

I just played a game on warlord, won it with space race victory. I couldn't get any citys to flop until the modern age and I was the culture/religous leader the whole game.

what i'm trying to figure out is, does dificulty levels have anything to do with how easy you can make a city flop to you?

Chieftain. T'was my first game, and I thought it best to get used to the interface before trying anything more difficult.

SuperBeaverInc. · Oct 30, 2005, 07:40 PM

I am playing on Noble, and I got a Great Artist while at war with the Romans. I captured a city, moved it in, and activated the Culture Bomb. Ended the resistance and expanded the borders.

That thing is so much fun.

Ace4nyC · Oct 30, 2005, 11:06 PM

i used great artist to for culture bomb nieghboring city and the enemy city never whent over myside, even tho it was sarrounded by my culture relgion why is that?

trogdorix · Oct 30, 2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace4nyC

i used great artist to for culture bomb nieghboring city and the enemy city never whent over myside, even tho it was sarrounded by my culture relgion why is that?

in CivIII, if the enemy had a large enough stack of units in the city, it wouldnt flip even when surrounded. Maybe the same happened here?

Gnarfflinger · Oct 31, 2005, 01:26 AM

I dropped a culture bomb once. It basically engulfed a city from a neighbouring civ and covered probably 15 of 20 squares that he had access to...

Ace4nyC · Oct 31, 2005, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by trogdorix

in CivIII, if the enemy had a large enough stack of units in the city, it wouldnt flip even when surrounded. Maybe the same happened here?

probly when i whent to war with the civ i found the city had like 7 units in it...damn english bastards where ready :P

Dairuka · Oct 31, 2005, 02:52 AM

My speculation is...

Culture Flips are more likely to happen if:

- The city has the same religion as your State Religion on it; but the enemy civilization has a different state religion.

- The city is suffering from starvation. {Usually caused by your borders encroaching on the city tiles preventing them from gaining food.}

- The city is suffering from unhappiness.

- The city has a weak military presence.

- You have Emancipation civic, and the other Civilization does not.

- The city has a weak culture.

Culture Flips are less likely to happen if:

- The Civilization has the Free Religion Civic.

- The Civilization has the Emancipation Civic, and you do not.

- The Civilization has a happy and healthy city.

- The Civilization has a strong culture.

- The civilization has a strong military presence.

Oct 30, 2005, 07:04 PM	#1
trogdorix Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 30	Great Artists as a weapon. On the center of my continent, I had just created a new city. Soon after. three different AIs surrounded my city with a total of five new cites. I happened to get a Great Artist at my capital, and moved it to the new city aforementioned. Using the "creat great work" option, the Great Artist was effectively a culture bomb, and my borders expanded and eventually culture fliped those five cities all within another 20-25 turns. This may not work as well in later stages of the game. but using great artists along a border can just give that extra boost to take a few extra cities without the hastle of a full fledged war.

Oct 30, 2005, 07:36 PM	#3
Prince David David di Xeno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 201	Sulla's walk through talks several times about the strategic use of Great Artists. They're also good for newly conquered cities. Not only do they push back borders, but the new borders are often so huge they can rapidly fill in the gaps around other conquered cities. Culture improves your city defense, too. __________________ "You've got to kick at the darkness until it bleeds daylight." - Bruce Cockburn

Oct 30, 2005, 07:40 PM	#5
SuperBeaverInc. Live Slow, Die Whenever Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 14,603 Images: 6	I am playing on Noble, and I got a Great Artist while at war with the Romans. I captured a city, moved it in, and activated the Culture Bomb. Ended the resistance and expanded the borders. That thing is so much fun. __________________ Six Seasons and a Movie

Oct 30, 2005, 11:06 PM	#6
Ace4nyC Warlord Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC !!! Duh Posts: 141	i used great artist to for culture bomb nieghboring city and the enemy city never whent over myside, even tho it was sarrounded by my culture relgion why is that? __________________ I come in peace...and your country will be left in peaces

Oct 31, 2005, 01:26 AM	#8
Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Lorne, Ontario Posts: 1,782	I dropped a culture bomb once. It basically engulfed a city from a neighbouring civ and covered probably 15 of 20 squares that he had access to... __________________ "Brussel sprouts aren't food, they're AMMUNITION" If I can be of assistance, then you're in worse shape than I thought you were...

Oct 30, 2005, 07:08 PM	#2
La_Musica Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 39	wow, 25 turns? what dificulty level were you on? I just played a game on warlord, won it with space race victory. I couldn't get any citys to flop until the modern age and I was the culture/religous leader the whole game. what i'm trying to figure out is, does dificulty levels have anything to do with how easy you can make a city flop to you?

Oct 31, 2005, 02:52 AM	#10
Dairuka Prince Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BC, Canada Land Posts: 558	My speculation is... Culture Flips are more likely to happen if: - The city has the same religion as your State Religion on it; but the enemy civilization has a different state religion. - The city is suffering from starvation. {Usually caused by your borders encroaching on the city tiles preventing them from gaining food.} - The city is suffering from unhappiness. - The city has a weak military presence. - You have Emancipation civic, and the other Civilization does not. - The city has a weak culture. Culture Flips are less likely to happen if: - The Civilization has the Free Religion Civic. - The Civilization has the Emancipation Civic, and you do not. - The Civilization has a happy and healthy city. - The Civilization has a strong culture. - The civilization has a strong military presence. __________________ : : : : :_/ _/ _/ : : : : : : : : : : : :_/ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :_/ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :_/ : : : :_/ : : :_/ _/ _/ : : : :_/ : _/_/ : :_/: : : : :_/: _/ : : _/ : : : : _/ _/ _/ : : : : :_/ : : : :_/ : _/: : : : _/ : _/ :_/:_/: : : : :_/: : : : :_/: _/ _/ : : : : :_/ : : : :_/ : : : :_/ : : : :_/ : _/ : : : :_/ : _/ :_/: : : : : : :_/: : : : :_/: _/ : :_/ : : :_/ : : : : _/ : : :_/ _/ _/ : : : :_/ _/ _/ : _/ :_/: : : : : : : :_/ _/ _/ : _/ : : : : _/ : :_/ _/ _/ : : Visit the EncyClanPedia for all your gaming knowledge needs: EncyClanPedia Main Page

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