Chopping for science?

Willburn · Dec 01, 2005, 04:39 AM

Following my interest on forrest chopping i today realized you can chop science. If you get alphabet you can build science and chop forrests for it. Maybe good for cton ladder games where you need score fast (game only lasts 130 turn and techs give score.) or ..hmm..do the hammers from chopping recive bonus in the city from libary and such..if so then this could actually be quite usefull!!

Think of cities with the acadamy and libary + chop. Could be usefull in the ancient ages after chopping for wonder/settler/worker/whatever you prefer

I do realise again this is also a limited strategy use but again - might be usefull

jeremiahrounds · Dec 01, 2005, 04:42 AM

I just chopped for culture! lol. No really this was early just right after i got theaters and i built all my culture buildings i could on a captured city via chopping. This city was completely undeveloped lots of forest. But then i thought wow i wonder if i can chop to a border upgrade. So chop chop culture! Border upgrade made the new city safely mine. Thank you very much wood sculpture.

Willburn · Dec 01, 2005, 04:47 AM

Hmm thats kinda usefull too! But not so much since you need music to to get culture chop and by then most of your cities have culture anyway (and you can just adjust by culture slider) I think the research chop can have a very good advantage early on (first to get f.ex music)

edit: cant you get like insain culture bonus later in the game (like 300-400%) with forrest chop that could actually mean quite some culture

But i guess those hammers would be better spent on chopping wonders that will earn the culture fast back.

But your example gives a good use for culture chop! (border dispute)

jeremiahrounds · Dec 01, 2005, 04:50 AM

it was the only time i ever chopped for culture. it was just a freak thing. so many forest in its square.

slothman · Dec 01, 2005, 04:52 AM

That is actually an interesting idea.
Normally just after I get a city I have to rush a culture building.
A radius of 1 just isn't enough.
This way I can save like 20 turns and build useful things right away.

jeremiahrounds · Dec 01, 2005, 05:16 AM

Dont forget you dont have to chop within your border. This last game on prince before it got all closed I had enough workers i sent one to chop around the AI cities. Dont know how aggressive the AI will be in punishing that after prince.

Astax · Dec 01, 2005, 07:51 AM

Well you get what 20 hammers in a quick game, thats 10 beakers. Not really a favorible conversion. Choppign a library woudl probably be better.

Astax · Dec 01, 2005, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremiahrounds

Dont forget you dont have to chop within your border. This last game on prince before it got all closed I had enough workers i sent one to chop around the AI cities. Dont know how aggressive the AI will be in punishing that after prince.

Outside culural borders is such a big penalty, 2 squares from culural border it's now what, 33% penalty after the patch? (13 out of 20 on quick) Plus if you chop close to the enemy city, they get the hammers instead :O

Willburn · Dec 01, 2005, 07:54 AM

Libary will usually net you around 1-2 beakers. Acadamy + libary with build gives you 17.5 beakers per chop. (if it had worked)

Anyways i just tested this and i found out its buggy. No chopped hammers goes to research when building research and chopping. And someone said it does work for culture, If so then it should work for building research too.

jeremiahrounds · Dec 01, 2005, 02:40 PM

hmm i didnt actually check it. LOL~ wonder if i wasted my chops!

slothman · Dec 01, 2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astax

Outside culural borders is such a big penalty, 2 squares from culural border it's now what, 33% penalty after the patch? (13 out of 20 on quick) Plus if you chop close to the enemy city, they get the hammers instead :O

I thought it is solely distance, irrelavent on boundries.
I once chopped 2 from a rival and 4 from me.
It says what city will get them so if you don't want that city then don't.
I wanted to chop before his border expanded.

BaTaTa · Dec 01, 2005, 08:15 PM

how do you chop for science/culture? I tried building research on one of my cities and chopping a forest but nothing hapenned. (this was for science)

Willburn · Dec 02, 2005, 12:38 AM

Bata if you scroll up to my post #9 i say that its not working. You actually loose all the hammers. (this got to be a bug)

Quantum7 · Dec 02, 2005, 02:00 AM

It's solely distance for the chop effectiveness. I got the full 30 3 tiles from the city, with borders only being 1 tile.

Dec 01, 2005, 04:39 AM	#1
Willburn Warlord Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Chopping for science? Following my interest on forrest chopping i today realized you can chop science. If you get alphabet you can build science and chop forrests for it. Maybe good for cton ladder games where you need score fast (game only lasts 130 turn and techs give score.) or ..hmm..do the hammers from chopping recive bonus in the city from libary and such..if so then this could actually be quite usefull!! Think of cities with the acadamy and libary + chop. Could be usefull in the ancient ages after chopping for wonder/settler/worker/whatever you prefer I do realise again this is also a limited strategy use but again - might be usefull

Dec 01, 2005, 04:52 AM	#5
slothman Emperor Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,223	That is actually an interesting idea. Normally just after I get a city I have to rush a culture building. A radius of 1 just isn't enough. This way I can save like 20 turns and build useful things right away. __________________ Visit my forum at: http://www.thegaminguniverse.com/ for some of your gaming needs.

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Dec 01, 2005, 04:42 AM	#2
jeremiahrounds Prince Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 404	I just chopped for culture! lol. No really this was early just right after i got theaters and i built all my culture buildings i could on a captured city via chopping. This city was completely undeveloped lots of forest. But then i thought wow i wonder if i can chop to a border upgrade. So chop chop culture! Border upgrade made the new city safely mine. Thank you very much wood sculpture.

Dec 01, 2005, 04:47 AM	#3
Willburn Warlord Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Hmm thats kinda usefull too! But not so much since you need music to to get culture chop and by then most of your cities have culture anyway (and you can just adjust by culture slider) I think the research chop can have a very good advantage early on (first to get f.ex music) edit: cant you get like insain culture bonus later in the game (like 300-400%) with forrest chop that could actually mean quite some culture But i guess those hammers would be better spent on chopping wonders that will earn the culture fast back. But your example gives a good use for culture chop! (border dispute)

Dec 01, 2005, 04:50 AM	#4
jeremiahrounds Prince Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 404	it was the only time i ever chopped for culture. it was just a freak thing. so many forest in its square.

Dec 01, 2005, 05:16 AM	#6
jeremiahrounds Prince Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 404	Dont forget you dont have to chop within your border. This last game on prince before it got all closed I had enough workers i sent one to chop around the AI cities. Dont know how aggressive the AI will be in punishing that after prince.

Dec 01, 2005, 07:51 AM	#7
Astax Prince Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 548	Well you get what 20 hammers in a quick game, thats 10 beakers. Not really a favorible conversion. Choppign a library woudl probably be better.

Dec 01, 2005, 07:54 AM	#9
Willburn Warlord Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Libary will usually net you around 1-2 beakers. Acadamy + libary with build gives you 17.5 beakers per chop. (if it had worked) Anyways i just tested this and i found out its buggy. No chopped hammers goes to research when building research and chopping. And someone said it does work for culture, If so then it should work for building research too.

Dec 01, 2005, 02:40 PM	#10
jeremiahrounds Prince Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 404	hmm i didnt actually check it. LOL~ wonder if i wasted my chops!

Dec 01, 2005, 08:15 PM	#12
BaTaTa Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4	how do you chop for science/culture? I tried building research on one of my cities and chopping a forest but nothing hapenned. (this was for science)

Dec 02, 2005, 12:38 AM	#13
Willburn Warlord Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Bata if you scroll up to my post #9 i say that its not working. You actually loose all the hammers. (this got to be a bug)

Dec 02, 2005, 02:00 AM	#14
Quantum7 Warlord Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 188	It's solely distance for the chop effectiveness. I got the full 30 3 tiles from the city, with borders only being 1 tile.

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