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Old Dec 08, 2005, 12:03 PM   #1
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Question Alright to Starve your City, kill your population just to Rush a Great Person?

Alright to Starve your City, kill your population just to Rush a Great Person?

It seems to be as evil as Slavery, only that it produces far better results. It's only workable on Large Cities.

Warning: This will inevitably kill off 1 pop per turn until you are left with only 1 pop.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 12:07 PM   #2
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I didn't even know you could rush a Great Person. I thought rushing production was only for buildings and units.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 12:36 PM   #3
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Yeah, I did it

I did that once in order to produce a great artist that I badly needed before year 2050 in order to put my third cultural city over the 50,000 culture points mark. The city had a population of 14 or so and by the time the great artist finally popped out it was down to 6.

Although it did work and I won the game, it really wasn't very satisfying. I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world. Creating armies through slavery makes much more sense than that, imho, because its factually plausible.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 12:57 PM   #4
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Interesting. I guess the only time I would do it then is in Kurdi's situation, when you are going for a win. Other than that I don't think it is something I would do.....
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 01:05 PM   #5
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If you're over your happiness/health cap, then those extra citizens aren't doing anything anyways, so if you can get a productive specialist to help generate GP points, then it's very much worth it.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 05:43 PM   #6
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I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world.
Aww, come on. It's completely plausible for great poets or painters describing pain, torment and suffering to spawn out of a place like that. They'd probably be the rich kids that didn't do the actual starving though.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 05:46 PM   #7
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Since when have great poets been rich?
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 06:00 PM   #8
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I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world.
But plague infected cities do sometimes generate Isaac Newtons...
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 06:25 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by kurdi
I mean, cities that are being starved to death reasonably do not churn out a Shakespeare or a Raphael in the real world.


Isn't that where the term 'starving artist' came from?
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 07:26 PM   #10
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Starve away. Just don't starve them off too quickly (unless you need the great person super fast). Putting a city with a granary at -1 food, the extra specialists will last a lot longer than simply sticking the same city at -7 food. It's not worth 3 more specialists since you will lose the bonus specialists (and the population) very quickly.
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Old Dec 08, 2005, 07:41 PM   #11
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Its not really starving until your granary is empty its just a negative food supply.
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Old Dec 09, 2005, 06:15 AM   #12
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Since when have great poets been rich?
They have to be, they make no money from their poetry, so the income from owning half of Scotland keeps them going .
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Old Dec 09, 2005, 06:22 AM   #13
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Starving cities are generally something to consider in the end-game. I noticed it the other day in a game where I was getting behind in Space Victory (had focused on domination but the conquest grinded to a halt). I switched necessary farm-land and windmills to workshops and mines, and moved people working ocean to being engineers. Sure the city would drop a point every 10 turns, but I could produce a spaceship-part every 5 turns.
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Old Dec 09, 2005, 07:55 AM   #14
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good idea. hmm
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Old Dec 09, 2005, 10:11 AM   #15
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North Korea starved its cities to complete the Mahattan project (build nukes) in real life....That wouldn't work in a democratic country.

Perhaps if you use representation or universal suffrage, you couldn't assign specialists if the city is starving....just a thought...
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