World 500BC - The Persian Age

Genghis_Kai · Mar 04, 2006, 02:55 AM

World 500BC - The Persian Age v1.3

Babylonian rule in Mesopotamia was ended by the Persian in 539BC. Besides Babylonian, The Persian Empire annexed Medes, Lydians, Egyptians and the nomadic tribes in the central Asia. Darius, the ruler of Persian Empire, is now turning his attention to the Greece and Macedon. Can the Greek and Macedonian able to survive from the Persian invasion? or maybe even invade Persia? Roman republic was founded in 509BC. Can the newly founded republic able to stand under the threat of the Etruscan in the north and Greek in the south? In the east, the spring and autumn period has been started since 772BC. As one of the hegemons, your goal is to unify the 'civilized' states. Buddhism is spreading in the Kuru dynasties in India. Will Buddhism or Hinduism win the 'religious' war and becoming the dominating religion in the area or even in the world? Chavin and Olmecs still enjoy their isolation in America. However, more barbarians are becoming their 'neighbours' now. Regardless of which civilization you use, the strategy is to become the dominating power in the region and then the next step is to compete with other dominating powers in the rest of the world!

Game info:
There are 16 civilizations in this scenario.

West Mediterranean/Europe:
Carthaginian Empire - Hamilcar - 6 cities
Etruscan League - Lars Porsena - 1 city
Roman Republic - Lucius Junius Brutus - 1 city

East Mediterranean/Africa:
Athenian Empire - Pericles - 6 cities
Macedonian Empire - Alexander - 2 cities
Persian Empire - Darius - 17 cities
Cush Kingdom - Aspelta - 4 cities

East Asia:
Qi Dukedom - Jiang Xiaobai - 2 cities
Jin Dukedom - Ji Zhonger - 2 cities
Chu Kingdom - Mi Lu - 3 cities
Yuezhi Kingdom (Central Asia) - King of Yuezhi - 1 city

South Asia:
Magadhan Kingdom - Bimbisara - 2 cities
Kosala Kingdom - Prasenjit - 2 cities
Avanti Kingdom - Nandivardhana - 2 cities

America:
Chavin Kingdom - King of Chavin - 1 city
Olmecs Kingdom - King of Olmecs - 1 city

And some barbarian cities (Raging barbarians! You have been WARNED).

Update log:
v1.3 Added more celtic (barberian) cities. Added more units to chinese and indian civs. Some minor bugs fixed (including the banana in philippine sea

).
v1.2 Byzantium given to Macedon, Pundra correctly named and some other fixes.
v1.1 For game balance, Macedon's power is increased and Persian's power is dereased. Wonder locations are corrected.
v1.0 Scenario released. No known bugs. However, game balance haven't been tested.

Map:
This scenario is based on a modified version of Rhye's world map (huge).

Historical References:
Andrew Heritage (Editor in chief) 1999. "Atlas of World History", Dorling Kindersley Cartography.
Tan Qixiang (Chief Editor) 1982. "Historical Atlas of China", China Cartographic Publishing House. [Chinese]
Wikipedia

Game Editor used to build this scenario:
In game World Builder
Civ4Editor by kswoll

Other games in this series:
2000BC - The first cities http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=149317
1000BC - The clash of Empires http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153848

To play (for newbies):
No mods have been used in this scenario. So to play it, simply download the zip file, unzip it and place the file in "Civ4\Public Maps"
folder. Start the game, you should be able to see "World 500BC v1.3" in the scenario game menu.

The game file:

Genghis_Kai · Mar 04, 2006, 02:57 AM

New screenshots for v1.3

Enjoy!

Head Serf · Mar 04, 2006, 06:17 AM

Woo hoo! I can't wait to play! I unfortuanately missed the 1000 bc, but I think I'll play this one! This looks like it would be wayyyy to easy with the Persians.

Genghis_Kai · Mar 04, 2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head Serf

Woo hoo! I can't wait to play! I unfortuanately missed the 1000 bc, but I think I'll play this one! This looks like it would be wayyyy to easy with the Persians.

Yes. The game is definitely not fair

I tried to use Macedon tonight. It is really too difficult. I couldn't get a second city (Besides Byzantium) away from Persian. So I decided to make an update giving two more Phalanx to Macedon and reduces the number of archers in Persia (so that Macedon can enjoy more of its Phalanx advantage vs Perisan's mounted units.)

It is still a mission impossible for Macedon to completely takeover Persia, but that is what making it fun!

Pegasos · Mar 04, 2006, 07:59 AM

How difficult it is for Persia to take over Macedonia?

Hans Lemurson · Mar 05, 2006, 03:25 AM

Why are Byzantium and Sinope Persian? From what I recall (from reading the Anabasis) they were very firmly Hellene, and this is a bit after 500BC.

Another question is what are the Scythians doing in Bangladesh?

Genghis_Kai · Mar 05, 2006, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegasos

How difficult it is for Persia to take over Macedonia?

Not so difficult I guess

By the way, has anyone tried using Macedon? The best that I could do was grabbing 3 cities from Persian.

Genghis_Kai · Mar 05, 2006, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Lemurson

Why are Byzantium and Sinope Persian? From what I recall (from reading the Anabasis) they were very firmly Hellene, and this is a bit after 500BC.

Another question is what are the Scythians doing in Bangladesh?

Hi. You are quite correct. I think Byzantium should still under Greece control. I will give it to Macedon when I do another bug fix. Sinope however, is already under Persians control in 500BC I think.

For Scythians, it is a bug. Thanks for spotting that. It should be Pundra but I forgot to rename it after placing the city.

Head Serf · Mar 05, 2006, 04:37 PM

Just tried out the new version as the Athenians. I was able to quickly grab 3 Persian cities with only 5 phalanxes because their only defenses were immortals and horse archers, units with a huge disadvantage to the phalanxes that have a power 11 (Base 5 x 2 because of mounted, x 1.1 because of free Combat 1 promotion). I would advise giving each Persian city another archer to keep them from shrinking quickly early on. The archers would still have a rough time, but they would only be like 3.75 vs 5.5 as opposed to 4 vs 11.

Genghis_Kai · Mar 06, 2006, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head Serf

Just tried out the new version as the Athenians. I was able to quickly grab 3 Persian cities with only 5 phalanxes because their only defenses were immortals and horse archers, units with a huge disadvantage to the phalanxes that have a power 11 (Base 5 x 2 because of mounted, x 1.1 because of free Combat 1 promotion). I would advise giving each Persian city another archer to keep them from shrinking quickly early on. The archers would still have a rough time, but they would only be like 3.75 vs 5.5 as opposed to 4 vs 11.

Thats actually what I had in 1.0 version. But after I tried playing, what happen is, before I get pass minor asia, Persian already can upgrade his archer to longbowman! My phalanx becomes useless infront of these longbowman. Thats why I made such change.

I mean, we have to give some chances for the history to repeat

das · Mar 15, 2006, 05:18 AM

Really liked this. Any chance for the series to continue?

Genghis_Kai · Mar 16, 2006, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by das

Really liked this. Any chance for the series to continue?

Thanks, it is really an encouragement from someone having 10000 posts in this forum already!

I am considering the next scenario will be 220BC. Background will be the second punic war in Europe, Qin Dynasty in China, Mauryan dynasty in India and Seleucid Empire in Persia. Xiong-Nu, Bactria and probably celts will appear, which will add more divisity in the game.

But I probably won't start building this within the next few weeks. Not much free time for games lately

Lachlan · Mar 16, 2006, 02:49 AM

I will give it a try !

I can't wait when you will be arribed in 2000 AD

Lachlan · Mar 16, 2006, 01:35 PM

Little feedback !

I played Carthaginians !

But barbarians are too weak

Genghis_Kai · Mar 17, 2006, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lachlan

Little feedback !

I played Carthaginians !

But barbarians are too weak

You are quite right. I think I should probably add more stronger barbarians from africa, since the berbers states and numidian were arising in there which was a big threat to the carthagian.

thanks.

Lachlan · Mar 17, 2006, 11:54 AM

But others Barbarians in Eurasia are too weak too !

das · Mar 18, 2006, 02:05 AM

They do defect rather easily...

Genghis_Kai · Mar 18, 2006, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by das

They do defect rather easily...

ok. I have a look and see if I shall add more. I did a bit research on Celtic people and I realise they are there very early in time, something like 1000BC. However, I am not sure when did they start forming a centralised government and how strong their armies were.

I can't remember how many barbarian i put in there really. Will have to check.

Nefelia · Apr 08, 2006, 10:07 AM

Played as the Magadhan. Access to Iron has allowed me to walk over my rivals in South Asia. Ealy Spearmen and Swordmen keep the Prasenjit at bay. A quick sprint to Construction (catapults), and they are toast.

I am not given the option to Raze cities I have captured. Is that intentional?

Nefelia · Apr 08, 2006, 10:37 AM

Slight map issue: There is a banana resource on a coastal tile near the island representing the Phillipines.

P.S. excellent work, btw. ^^

Mar 04, 2006, 02:57 AM	#2
Genghis_Kai GEM modder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,214	Screenshots New screenshots for v1.3 Enjoy! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Genghis_Kai; Apr 11, 2006 at 05:21 AM.

Mar 04, 2006, 07:59 AM	#5
Pegasos Deities' Favourite Horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Too near Russia Posts: 202	How bout Persia? How difficult it is for Persia to take over Macedonia? __________________ Master of Puppets I'm pulling your strings Twisting your mind, smashing your dreams Blinded by me, you can't see a thing Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream -Metallica

Mar 15, 2006, 05:18 AM	#11
das Regeneration In Process Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ekaterinburg (Sverdlovsk), Russia Posts: 19,102	Really liked this. Any chance for the series to continue? __________________ "That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die." - Inspiring Quotations for a Better Tomorrow "Her Majesty has terrible dreams. She sees England as a small country that lives in peace, and no one at the court dares tell her that Rome started out the same way. His Catholic Majesty was once content with ruling half the world; I am afraid we will have to take all of it." - Humphrey Gilbert "I am not at all a friend of humanity, Viscount replied. I am the enemy of its enemies." - S. Vititsky, "The Search for Designation, or the Twenty Seventh Theorem of Ethics". 天命

Mar 18, 2006, 02:05 AM	#17
das Regeneration In Process Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ekaterinburg (Sverdlovsk), Russia Posts: 19,102	They do defect rather easily... __________________ "That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die." - Inspiring Quotations for a Better Tomorrow "Her Majesty has terrible dreams. She sees England as a small country that lives in peace, and no one at the court dares tell her that Rome started out the same way. His Catholic Majesty was once content with ruling half the world; I am afraid we will have to take all of it." - Humphrey Gilbert "I am not at all a friend of humanity, Viscount replied. I am the enemy of its enemies." - S. Vititsky, "The Search for Designation, or the Twenty Seventh Theorem of Ethics". 天命

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Mar 04, 2006, 06:17 AM	#3
Head Serf Emperor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 1,566	Woo hoo! I can't wait to play! I unfortuanately missed the 1000 bc, but I think I'll play this one! This looks like it would be wayyyy to easy with the Persians.

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Hans Lemurson Prince Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 400	Why are Byzantium and Sinope Persian? From what I recall (from reading the Anabasis) they were very firmly Hellene, and this is a bit after 500BC. Another question is what are the Scythians doing in Bangladesh?

Mar 05, 2006, 04:37 PM	#9
Head Serf Emperor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 1,566	Just tried out the new version as the Athenians. I was able to quickly grab 3 Persian cities with only 5 phalanxes because their only defenses were immortals and horse archers, units with a huge disadvantage to the phalanxes that have a power 11 (Base 5 x 2 because of mounted, x 1.1 because of free Combat 1 promotion). I would advise giving each Persian city another archer to keep them from shrinking quickly early on. The archers would still have a rough time, but they would only be like 3.75 vs 5.5 as opposed to 4 vs 11.

Mar 16, 2006, 02:49 AM	#13
Lachlan Le Conquérant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,944	I will give it a try ! I can't wait when you will be arribed in 2000 AD

Mar 16, 2006, 01:35 PM	#14
Lachlan Le Conquérant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,944	Little feedback ! I played Carthaginians ! But barbarians are too weak

Mar 17, 2006, 11:54 AM	#16
Lachlan Le Conquérant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,944	But others Barbarians in Eurasia are too weak too !

Apr 08, 2006, 10:07 AM	#19
Nefelia Warlord Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 210	Played as the Magadhan. Access to Iron has allowed me to walk over my rivals in South Asia. Ealy Spearmen and Swordmen keep the Prasenjit at bay. A quick sprint to Construction (catapults), and they are toast. I am not given the option to Raze cities I have captured. Is that intentional?

Apr 08, 2006, 10:37 AM	#20
Nefelia Warlord Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 210	Slight map issue: There is a banana resource on a coastal tile near the island representing the Phillipines. P.S. excellent work, btw. ^^

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