Civ request: Afrikaners

[Chamaedrys]

I think that a unit in the game represents several units in the real world.



now i have do some work ;-)

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys

It seems that there is a problem with the link. I did revere it to the administrators.

Chamaedrys, you’ve given me an idea. I suggest we use the 'Vierkleur', the flag with the green inside and make the color of the civ orange, which correlates with the oranje flag.

What do you think? I hope you received my email earlier today which clarifies the issue on which flag is more senior than the other.

[Chamaedrys]

Sorry, Abrie but I don't received your email.

Now, I have made a vierkleur flag and a button. I think it would fit with the orange colour. Orange would make sense and it provides a good contrast agaist the English White and and the Mali Brown.
If you send me pictures of the Leaders I could make the Leader portraits (no animations, of cause) and the Leader buttons.

So it is now to bring more information into the mod. Could you make Pedia texts about the Leaders, the UU and the Civilization it self?

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Great stuff! It looks good.

It seems that I'm having trouble to send email to you. If you dont mind, I have spoke to White Rabit and requested a UU. He realy seems good with the designing of units.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...=163041&page=4

I have requested a few changes to the traditional look of the cavalry. Have a look at the above thread.

I will post the names of towns in to this post. I will also forward you the images and the pedia info.

Regards

[Chamaedrys]

I have allready made a cavalry reskin (brown cavalry). In the picture above you can see it without gun belts, in the unit-graphics-thread is a screenshot with gun belts.
With the pedia and the pictures, the Afrikaaners are ready to step in the Civ4 universe.

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Here are the town names:

Pretoria
Johannesburg
Bloemfontein
Pietermaritzburg
Potchefstroom
Lydenburg
Zoutpansberg
Vryheid
Swellendam
Graaff Reinet
Winburg
Goshen
Peit Retief
Utrecht
Vryburg
Windhoek
Klerksdorp
Walvisbaai
Rustenburg
Potgieters Rust
Middelburg
Heidelberg
Nylstroom
Heilbron
Frankfort
Witbank
Kroonstad
Bethlehem
Vereeniging
Sasolburg
Springbok
Nelspruit
Pietersburg
Louis Trichardt
Grootfontein
Keetmanshoop
Welkom
Oranjemund
Orania
Calvinia
Hertzogville
Petrusburg
Reitz
Koffiefontein
Dewetsdorp
Ventersdorp
Bothaville
Ficksburg
Ventersburg
Paul Roux
Paulpietersburg

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys

Im emailing you a short and long history of Paul Kruger. You can choose which one you want to use.

Im working on Jan Smuts.

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys

I have emailed you the history on Smuts. Chech your mail.

Regards

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys

I have emailed you the history on the Afrikaners. Chech your mail.

Regards

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys, to assist you with the Great People list, I have condensed it and categorized it accordingly. I welcome people to make suggestions and I’m open for change.

Great Prophets
Siener van Rensburg
Beyers Naudé
Piet Retief
Johanna Brandt
Johan Heynz

Great Merchants
Anton Rupert
Frederik van Zyl Slabbert
Prof. F.R. Tomlinson
Louis Trichardt
Prof. D.G. Franzsen
Raymond Ackerman
E.H.D Arndt
S.S. Brand
G. De Kock
G.L. De Wet

Great Artists
Totius
Charlize Theron
A.G. Visser
Leon Schuster
C.L. Leipoldt
Casper de Vries
N.P. van Wyk Louw
Koos Kombuis
D.J. Opperman
Koos du Plessis
T.T. Cloete
Arnold Vosloo
J.M. Coetzee
Breyten Breytenbach
Olive Schreiner
Eugene Marais
Richard E. Grant
Lina Spies
T.T. Cloete
Ettienne le Roux
Ernst van Heerden
Antjie Krog
André P Brink
Athol Fugard
Laurens van der Post


Great Engineers
J.B.M. Hertzog
Andries Pretorius
Dr. M.M. Loubser
Hendrik Potgieter
F.W. de Klerk
Dr. W.L. Grant
Louis Botha
Dr. N. Stutterheim
P.W. Botha
Dr. J.J. Wannenburg
D.F. Malan
Dr. H.G. Denkhaus
J.G. Strijdom
Prof. L. van Biljon
Jan Breytenbach
Prof. D.G. Kröger
Willem Boonzaier
Prof. J.D. van Wyk
Prof. G. van R. Marais
Prof. J.A.G. Malherbe

Great Scientists
Dr Christiaan Barnard
Dr Wouter Basson
Dr. E.C.N. van Hoepen
Dr.T.E.W. Schumann
Dr.P.J. du Toit
Dr.H.O. Mönnig
Dr.A.I. Malan
Dr.R.J. Ortlepp
Prof. C.G.S. de Villiers
Prof. D.L. Scholtz
Dr.S.J. du Plessis
Dr.R. Campbell Begg
Prof. S. Meiring Naudé
Prof. H.L. de Waal
Dr.A.J. Hesse
Prof. J.J. Theron
Dr.D.G. Steyn
Prof. H.A.W. Verleger
Dr.L.T. Nel
Dr.F.J. de Villiers
Dr.T.J.W. Jorden
Dr.C.S. Grobbelaar
Dr.C.R. van der Merwe
Prof. W.O. Neitz
Dr.A.J. Petrick
Prof. D.J. Malan
Dr.L.D. Boonstra
Prof. I. de V. Malherbe
Prof. M.W. Henning
Dr.J.N. van Niekerk
Prof. H. Rund
Prof. H.G.W.J. Schweickerdt
Prof. G.W. Perold
Prof. T.W. Gevers
Prof. B.J. Dippenaar
Prof. O.S. Heyns
Dr.A. Strasheim
Prof. G. Eloff
Prof. J.D.J. Hofmeyr
Dr.P.R. Enslin
Prof. D.M. Joubert
Prof. A.J. Brink
Prof. Jan H. van der Merwe
Prof. P.A.J. Ryke
Prof. D.G. Roux
Prof. D.R. Osterhoff
Dr.W.P. de Kock
Prof. W.E. Frahn
Prof. H.P. Wassermann
Prof. H.S. Steyn
Prof. J.A. van Eeden
Prof. V. Pretorius
Prof. John de Villiers
Prof. D.G. Haylett
Prof. P.H. Stoker

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Chamaedrys

The discription on the UU is going to take some time, but I will make work of it and have it ready asap.

Thank you

[Depravo]

Originally Posted by Abrie JF Kilian

1. Boere Kommando (Collectively)
2. Ruiter (Singular)

Go with the singular - the game as a whole does.

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Here are the text for the civilopedia, thus far. Im working on the text for UU.

Thank you

[Chamaedrys]

O.K.

I have added the City list and the English pedia texts for both leaders and the Afrikaaners themselves.
You posted a lot of Great Afrikaaners, so I will add some of them as Great People.

Let us see what is left:

-Pictures of Paul Kruger and Jan C. Smuts
-Pedia text for the UU
-Some graphic improvent

[Chamaedrys]

I wanted to hear your opinion about some settings I have made:
I gave the Afrikaaners 'Agriculture' and 'Hunting' as free techs.
Jan Smuts gets the 'Industrious' and the 'Organized' trait to simulated his statesmanship. Paul Kruger gets the 'Financial' and the 'Aggressive' trait because these traits are useful in his historical situation.

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Jan Smuts 'Industrious' and 'Organized' traits seems to fit the profile 100%

Paul Krugers 'Aggressive' trait in don’t know, I'll have to think about that one. His financial trait I understand with the whole discovery of gold etc.

Here are the photo's. Just indicate if you are not satisfied. I will see what I can do.

Hunting and Agriculture seems fine. We could've used mysticism as well, due to the Afrikaners stout Protestant Christianity.

In general it's fine.

Will the Afrikaners be able to participate in Multiplayer games?

[Abrie JF Kilian]

Do you want me to condense the Great People for you in the 5 categories?

[flippy]

the bottom flag is the way to go id say. they both depict the afrikaaners heritage but the influence of the top one is a bit less... in my opinion.. id like the old south african flag as the civ flag, but thats my personal preference and i know you wouldnt use it as it wouldnt be accepted by the majority of people who recognise what it stands for... how about a voortrekker instead of a settler?? (lol)

[flippy]

what about cape town?? thats where the first afrikaaner settlement was... they eventually moved from there when the british took over but it was theirs initially.. call it kaapstad mayb. im not the most clued up on the afrikaaners history though so if u have other reasons not to include it then fair enough.. i like u having pietermaritzburg in at 4 though thats where im from lol

edit:mayb i should have read the whole thread before making this suggestion lol or at least waited for the pictures to load...looks great!!!

[flippy]

id also like to know what ur gonna have the leaders say in a game... although i probly wouldnt play as anyone else once ive got this civ, ill always have the other one in there..too bad you cant do it in afrikaans... that would really bring the game home... mayb some historical references?? if i had any i would suggest them but my knowledge is massively lacking on south african history unfortunately...