GoobNES02: The Cold Civil War [Preview Thread] - Page 2

Stormbringer · May 01, 2006, 11:53 AM

Well, I'll talk to Goober about the Soviet stats. In some parts the Soviets are way overpowered and in some ways...well...I would like to know what Goober was thinking.

Goober · May 01, 2006, 12:31 PM

One thing to keep in mind guys is that these stats are a Draft version. I am working on a final version, organizing nations by the alliances, etc. Please bear with me, I have to deal with the slowness of CFC and the crappiness of my ISP.

By the end of today, I should have everything completed. I will keep you guys informed. In the meantime, I would appreciate any and all feedback about what I have done thus far, critism, comments, suggestions, whatever. Remember, the only way this NES will get better is through feedback!

Capulet · May 01, 2006, 12:51 PM

Nation: France
Player:
Government Type: Republican Democracy (7)
Economy: Normal (4/6/0/12)
Military:
Army: 265,000 Regulars, 1,200 Special, 2,230 Tanks
Navy: 2 Aircraft Carriers, 6 Battleships, 10 Destroyers, 15 Frigates, 8 Submarines
Air Force: 210 Fighters, 50 Bombers, 120 Interceptors
Size: 5
Industrialization: 9
Education and Health: 8
Stability: 10
Trade: 6
Current Projects:
Completed Projects:

France.

Jason The King · May 01, 2006, 12:56 PM

I'll take Spain.

Goober · May 01, 2006, 01:12 PM

Welcome! Nice to see some veterans here! Good choices, btw, both exciting and challenging nations.

Capulet · May 01, 2006, 01:14 PM

Hey, my avatar even says, "Feeling like a veteran." Even though its a song lyric.

Kentharu · May 01, 2006, 01:16 PM

I Calll Caribbean

MINE MINE

Gelion · May 01, 2006, 01:22 PM

I'd like my question answered

Goober · May 01, 2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelion

Will you still be byased aganist Communist and Fashist regimes?

Well, Hello Mr Gelion

Yes, you are very right, in my previous NES, Fallout, I was biased towards some nations and players, and against others. All that I can say is that I have learned from experience. Having Modded a NES, which worked out far better then I had hoped, I now have much more experience, and I like to think that I am much less biased.

All that I can really say is that I learned from my previous mistakes. You will not be able to do what you could do in Fallout, like silver flipping between Communism, Fascism and Democracy rapidely, or Feanor with his massive Fascist African nation. That old expression "live a bit, learn a bit" comes to mind. I also have an Economics class under my belt, and that has helped me changed my Economic system quite a bit.

The basic answer is no. I am entering this totally calm, totally peaceful, and unbiased. I will do my best to maintain that. Besides, there is only one Fascist regime, that being Spain. Everybody else is Democratic, Communist, or Military Dictatorship.

Gelion · May 01, 2006, 01:35 PM

This sounds like very good news. All I have to do now is re-read the history and I'm on board

Swiss Bezerker · May 01, 2006, 01:50 PM

Nation: Cuba
Player:
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship (1)
Economy: Functioning (3/1/0/6)
Military: Soviet troops based here.
Army: 62,000 Regulars, 120 Tanks
Navy: 3 Destroyers, 6 Frigates
Air Force: 55 Fighters, 20 Bombers
Size: 2
Industrialization: 5
Education and Health: 6
Stability: 8
Trade: 2
Current Projects:
Completed Projects:

JosefStalinator · May 01, 2006, 01:51 PM

As ive been saying for nigh on a year, i apply for the CSA

backup nations being (in order) Spain and UK

Goober · May 01, 2006, 01:57 PM

Welcome Josef and SB! And good to hear that Gelion. I am on MSN if you need any clarifications or explanations.

Swissempire · May 01, 2006, 02:01 PM

KENTHARU, I HATE YOU. DIE DIE, DIE DIE. I WANT CARRIBEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Oh well, I call Egypt

Symphony D. · May 01, 2006, 02:08 PM

No map? As a lurker of the first one, I have to say I found it incredibly hard to really relate the words to a global situation without having a map to reference (then again, reading the alt-hist thread usually gives me this problem too). One could probably be assembled easily enough...

Gelion · May 01, 2006, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goober

Welcome Josef and SB! And good to hear that Gelion. I am on MSN if you need any clarifications or explanations.

Unfortunatelly I officially have to go to sleep so I cant get on. From what I read so far there are only two things of cocern. First is the well spread myth about general Winter defeating Hitler near Moscow

which is okay....

Second, which is imporant, is the total lack of nucelar weapons in the stats. Range is not very important, but numbers are. This is one of the determinants of foreign policy. Please include that

Me I'ma gona go sleep.

Kentharu · May 01, 2006, 02:18 PM

im from the caribbean so i should be able to call it!

hence why i did

Swissempire · May 01, 2006, 02:22 PM

I thought you were from England

Kentharu · May 01, 2006, 02:27 PM

why would you think that

tommy_toon · May 01, 2006, 02:59 PM

Alright, Im still torn on which nation, but for now I reserve North Vietnam

May 01, 2006, 11:53 AM	#21
Stormbringer The Brick and The Rose Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,315	Well, I'll talk to Goober about the Soviet stats. In some parts the Soviets are way overpowered and in some ways...well...I would like to know what Goober was thinking. __________________ The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else. -Umberto Eco

May 01, 2006, 12:51 PM	#23
Capulet RESTART Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,092	Nation: France Player: Government Type: Republican Democracy (7) Economy: Normal (4/6/0/12) Military: Army: 265,000 Regulars, 1,200 Special, 2,230 Tanks Navy: 2 Aircraft Carriers, 6 Battleships, 10 Destroyers, 15 Frigates, 8 Submarines Air Force: 210 Fighters, 50 Bombers, 120 Interceptors Size: 5 Industrialization: 9 Education and Health: 8 Stability: 10 Trade: 6 Current Projects: Completed Projects: France. __________________ "It was a thumpin.'" - President Bush on the Republican Party's overwhelming loss of the US Congress. Last edited by Capulet; May 01, 2006 at 01:01 PM.

May 01, 2006, 12:56 PM	#24
Jason The King Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 12,040	I'll take Spain. __________________ "No power in the 'verse can stop me." Stay tuned for JNES: Of Steam and Steal Based on the world of JNES: Age of Exploration

May 01, 2006, 01:14 PM	#26
Capulet RESTART Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,092	Hey, my avatar even says, "Feeling like a veteran." Even though its a song lyric. __________________ "It was a thumpin.'" - President Bush on the Republican Party's overwhelming loss of the US Congress.

May 01, 2006, 01:16 PM	#27
Kentharu Zebra Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Place with things Posts: 5,903	I Calll Caribbean MINE MINE __________________ Clone I am many. #nes For arrogant douches only. Last edited by Kentharu; May 01, 2006 at 01:23 PM.

May 01, 2006, 12:31 PM	#22
Goober Turning Right ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Victoria, BC, CANADA!!! Posts: 6,143	One thing to keep in mind guys is that these stats are a Draft version. I am working on a final version, organizing nations by the alliances, etc. Please bear with me, I have to deal with the slowness of CFC and the crappiness of my ISP. By the end of today, I should have everything completed. I will keep you guys informed. In the meantime, I would appreciate any and all feedback about what I have done thus far, critism, comments, suggestions, whatever. Remember, the only way this NES will get better is through feedback!

May 01, 2006, 01:12 PM	#25
Goober Turning Right ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Victoria, BC, CANADA!!! Posts: 6,143	Welcome! Nice to see some veterans here! Good choices, btw, both exciting and challenging nations.

May 01, 2006, 01:22 PM	#28
Gelion Captain Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth Dome Posts: 11,139	I'd like my question answered

May 01, 2006, 01:35 PM	#30
Gelion Captain Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth Dome Posts: 11,139	This sounds like very good news. All I have to do now is re-read the history and I'm on board

May 01, 2006, 01:50 PM	#31
Swiss Bezerker Emperor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: somewhere up north Posts: 1,539	Nation: Cuba Player: Government Type: Communist Dictatorship (1) Economy: Functioning (3/1/0/6) Military: Soviet troops based here. Army: 62,000 Regulars, 120 Tanks Navy: 3 Destroyers, 6 Frigates Air Force: 55 Fighters, 20 Bombers Size: 2 Industrialization: 5 Education and Health: 6 Stability: 8 Trade: 2 Current Projects: Completed Projects:

May 01, 2006, 01:51 PM	#32
JosefStalinator Я буду снова здесь Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,380	As ive been saying for nigh on a year, i apply for the CSA backup nations being (in order) Spain and UK __________________ Proud NESer since 2004 http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69 OMINOUS CHANGES

May 01, 2006, 01:57 PM	#33
Goober Turning Right ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Victoria, BC, CANADA!!! Posts: 6,143	Welcome Josef and SB! And good to hear that Gelion. I am on MSN if you need any clarifications or explanations.

May 01, 2006, 02:01 PM	#34
Swissempire Poet Jester Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton College/Florida Posts: 5,018	KENTHARU, I HATE YOU. DIE DIE, DIE DIE. I WANT CARRIBEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Oh well, I call Egypt __________________ The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages. As a precaution to ever committing major acts of evil it is our solemn duty never to do what we're told. -Banksy Some people care too much. I think it's called love. -Winnie the Pooh I can't sing like the birds, but I gots me a twitter

May 01, 2006, 02:08 PM	#35
Symphony D. Piratae Spatium Supremus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Segmentum Alnitahia Posts: 7,976	No map? As a lurker of the first one, I have to say I found it incredibly hard to really relate the words to a global situation without having a map to reference (then again, reading the alt-hist thread usually gives me this problem too). One could probably be assembled easily enough...

May 01, 2006, 02:18 PM	#37
Kentharu Zebra Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Place with things Posts: 5,903	im from the caribbean so i should be able to call it! hence why i did __________________ Clone I am many. #nes For arrogant douches only.

May 01, 2006, 02:22 PM	#38
Swissempire Poet Jester Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton College/Florida Posts: 5,018	I thought you were from England __________________ The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages. As a precaution to ever committing major acts of evil it is our solemn duty never to do what we're told. -Banksy Some people care too much. I think it's called love. -Winnie the Pooh I can't sing like the birds, but I gots me a twitter

May 01, 2006, 02:27 PM	#39
Kentharu Zebra Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Place with things Posts: 5,903	why would you think that __________________ Clone I am many. #nes For arrogant douches only.

May 01, 2006, 02:59 PM	#40
tommy_toon Emperor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,206	Alright, Im still torn on which nation, but for now I reserve North Vietnam __________________ Darknes II - Sauvira; The World Turned Upside Down - Empire of India; Neo Nes - Poland "Kiss every man while you still can, like a lady." "In the US you watch television. In Soviet Russia television watches you."

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