Version 1.10g CTDs

woodelf · May 13, 2006, 06:30 AM

I figured I'd start dropping them into one thread so Kael can find them easier.

This one has happened twice so I know it's there. The first time I simply went to desktop, the second I noticed the "war" coming sounds, it spun for a couple of seconds, and then went to desktop.

wilboman · May 14, 2006, 08:04 AM

Had a crash a fair while into the game, when hitting enter to go on to the next turn. Will see if I can reproduce, I'm just not bothered right now...

Kael · May 15, 2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by woodelf

I figured I'd start dropping them into one thread so Kael can find them easier.

This one has happened twice so I know it's there. The first time I simply went to desktop, the second I noticed the "war" coming sounds, it spun for a couple of seconds, and then went to desktop.

Hmm... this is being caused by the Priest of Leaves trying to cast Summon Tiger. Im at a loss to figure out why there is a problem summoning the tiger. I created AI priests that summon them just fine and my own priests even in that game can make them. Hmm..

woodelf · May 15, 2006, 03:04 PM

On the bright side, that's my only CTD so far and including the SGs I've played 5 games! Not completely, but through 200 turns or so.

Chalid · May 15, 2006, 03:21 PM

I v an CTD here. The ai.log shows nothing unnormal.

Kael · May 15, 2006, 04:35 PM

Talchas,

Woodelf's CTD shows the following log:

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[17624.383] AI_update(unit:UNIT_PRIEST_OF_LEAVES id:655414 turn:167 UNITAI:5
[17624.383] AI_updateSpellWeights - bonuses spell 2, bonus 0
[17624.383] AI_updateSpellWeights - bonuses spell 27, bonus 0
[17624.383] AI_updateSpellWeights - bonuses spell 68, bonus 0
[17624.383] AI_update - start call doMagicAttack
[17624.383] magicAttack(minStrRatN:2,minStrRatD:1
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 5 base 6 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 0 base 3 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 5 base 6 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 0 base 3 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] magicAttack - bestSpell is 68, value 260
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 5 base 6 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 0 base 3 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 5 base 6 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 0 base 3 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] magicAttack - bestSpell is 68, value 229
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 5 base 6 percent 0 flat 0
[17624.383] getSpellTypeValue, spell 68 type 0 base 3 percent 0 flat 0

I tried moving up to your latest ffhspells cvgamecoredll.dll and it seems like it fixes the issue (though I have to jump through a few hoops to get it to work). So I suspect you may have already fixed this. But I was wondering if you see anything unusual in the above logging, if I delete the priest mentioned above, or remove his ability to cast the Summon tiger spell the ctd doesn't occur.

Kael · May 16, 2006, 03:30 PM

I don't knwo the cause of Woodelf's CTD but I built a full build on the 110g code from Talchas's latest spell system and it doesn't happen anymore. So whatever the bug is, Talchas fixed it.

Chalid's CTD was actually caused by Woodelf. Specifically Yavin the Wood Elf, one of the AI cities just completed building him and his art wasn't linked correctly, hence the CTD.

Keep them coming if you guys find any more issues.

talchas · May 16, 2006, 03:32 PM

It looks ok, but I don't have the tons of debugging statements that I use to find CTDs (I wanna stack trace

), so there probably wouldn't be anything. Do other summons CTD, or just tiger?

Kael · May 16, 2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talchas

It looks ok, but I don't have the tons of debugging statements that I use to find CTDs (I wanna stack trace

), so there probably wouldn't be anything. Do other summons CTD, or just tiger?

Just the tiger and just in that instance. I couldn't get a ctd off of other tiger summons if I or the AI did it. Its possible since I didn't find the x factor that other summons in that same situation would have done the same thing.

Its not worth stressing about, its my fault for not staying up on your latest code.

woodelf · May 16, 2006, 03:36 PM

That is still my only CTD.

Corlindale · May 17, 2006, 08:29 AM

Got a reproduceable CTD in our current succession game. It kicks in at End of Turn, and I suspect it is because we are supposed to get a cultural victory in the following turn. Attached the save.

woodelf · May 17, 2006, 08:33 AM

NOOOO!!!!

Well, that blows.

wilboman · May 17, 2006, 02:35 PM

Out of interest, has anyone here ever tried for a cultural victory before? Maybe this is connected with the victory condition.

woodelf · May 17, 2006, 02:55 PM

I never have. I've never won at all since I try new stuff, crash, try again.

wilboman · May 17, 2006, 02:58 PM

The CTD I mentioned earlier is the Yavin the Wood-Elf-crash, I'd say. But something else interesting is connected to Yavin:
First off, all cities can build him, simultaneously.
Second off, the city screens in towns that build him, don't display correctly. Change to something else, and they are back to normal.
Save file attached, for illustrative purposes.

wilboman · May 17, 2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by woodelf

I never have. I've never won at all since I try new stuff, crash, try again.

Well, I know conquest is possible, since I ran through a painfully simple conquest victory just fine. And I think religion has worked in the older versions.

woodelf · May 17, 2006, 03:00 PM

Can we fixed Yavin's spelling to Yvain please.

Kael · May 17, 2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by woodelf

Can we fixed Yavin's spelling to Yvain please.

Will do, here is his Pedia entry:

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His ideas and character often lead others to believe that Yvain may be from the moon instead of the forests he cares for. His eccentric nature leads him across Erebus, visiting secluded glades, talking to exotic animals and chasing nymphs across pebbled river banks.

Even some within the Fellowship question if Yvain has the sincerity his respected stature would seem to require of him, but none doubt that he is the most powerful Druid and the favored child of Cernunnos. It was Yvain that first dreamed of the Ancient Forests and who is the first to face every newly discovered wilderness. To everyone who delights in finding the wonders of this world, know that the Woodelf has walked through these places before, and that it is all the more amazing because of it.

woodelf · May 17, 2006, 03:09 PM

You failed to mention his fascination and rumored romance with Alexis...

Other than that it's perfect!

wilboman · May 17, 2006, 03:12 PM

Both Cultural and Religious Victories worked fine for me. I did cheat and use the WB, but that shouldn't matter, should it?

May 13, 2006, 06:30 AM	#1
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	Version 1.10g CTDs I figured I'd start dropping them into one thread so Kael can find them easier. This one has happened twice so I know it's there. The first time I simply went to desktop, the second I noticed the "war" coming sounds, it spun for a couple of seconds, and then went to desktop. Last edited by woodelf; Feb 19, 2007 at 11:41 AM.

May 14, 2006, 08:04 AM	#2
wilboman Hibernorse Frost Giant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A timeshare in Kwythellar Posts: 2,403	Had a crash a fair while into the game, when hitting enter to go on to the next turn. Will see if I can reproduce, I'm just not bothered right now... __________________ Member of the Fall From Heaven II design team, along with Kael Coalbane, Alazkan the Assassin, Chalid Astrakhein, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, and Yvain the Woodelf. Writer and Idea-comer-upwither.

May 15, 2006, 03:21 PM	#5
Chalid Black Dragon Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,742	I v an CTD here. The ai.log shows nothing unnormal. __________________ Working on: Beholder Finished: Lots of units and buildings for Fall from Heaven IIß (Link to the FfH Forum) Bird, Air Elemental, Kraken, Flying Eye, Dragon (with C.Roland), Baloon (with hrochland) Civ4-Headcollection

May 16, 2006, 03:30 PM	#7
Kael Deity Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 17,392	I don't knwo the cause of Woodelf's CTD but I built a full build on the 110g code from Talchas's latest spell system and it doesn't happen anymore. So whatever the bug is, Talchas fixed it. Chalid's CTD was actually caused by Woodelf. Specifically Yavin the Wood Elf, one of the AI cities just completed building him and his art wasn't linked correctly, hence the CTD. Keep them coming if you guys find any more issues. __________________ Civ4: Fall from Heaven II (forum) (webpage), FfH: Age of Ice Civ5: Queen of the Iceni, Legions, Modders Guide to Civilization V Current Project: Fallen Enchantress

May 16, 2006, 03:32 PM	#8
talchas Prince Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 428	It looks ok, but I don't have the tons of debugging statements that I use to find CTDs (I wanna stack trace ), so there probably wouldn't be anything. Do other summons CTD, or just tiger? __________________ Python/SDK Modder: Mod Utilities: Spells and square selection \| Action buttons 2 (now using the SDK) \| Civilopedia Promotion Info \| Civ4 spreadsheet-based XML editor Fall from Heaven 2: Thread Forum As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. Commissioner Pravin Lal "U.N. Declaration of Rights"

May 15, 2006, 03:04 PM	#4
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	On the bright side, that's my only CTD so far and including the SGs I've played 5 games! Not completely, but through 200 turns or so.

May 16, 2006, 03:36 PM	#10
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	That is still my only CTD.

May 17, 2006, 08:29 AM	#11
Corlindale Emperor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,022	Got a reproduceable CTD in our current succession game. It kicks in at End of Turn, and I suspect it is because we are supposed to get a cultural victory in the following turn. Attached the save.

May 17, 2006, 08:33 AM	#12
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	NOOOO!!!! Well, that blows.

May 17, 2006, 02:35 PM	#13
wilboman Hibernorse Frost Giant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A timeshare in Kwythellar Posts: 2,403	Out of interest, has anyone here ever tried for a cultural victory before? Maybe this is connected with the victory condition. __________________ Member of the Fall From Heaven II design team, along with Kael Coalbane, Alazkan the Assassin, Chalid Astrakhein, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, and Yvain the Woodelf. Writer and Idea-comer-upwither.

May 17, 2006, 02:55 PM	#14
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	I never have. I've never won at all since I try new stuff, crash, try again.

May 17, 2006, 02:58 PM	#15
wilboman Hibernorse Frost Giant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A timeshare in Kwythellar Posts: 2,403	The CTD I mentioned earlier is the Yavin the Wood-Elf-crash, I'd say. But something else interesting is connected to Yavin: First off, all cities can build him, simultaneously. Second off, the city screens in towns that build him, don't display correctly. Change to something else, and they are back to normal. Save file attached, for illustrative purposes. __________________ Member of the Fall From Heaven II design team, along with Kael Coalbane, Alazkan the Assassin, Chalid Astrakhein, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, and Yvain the Woodelf. Writer and Idea-comer-upwither.

May 17, 2006, 03:00 PM	#17
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	Can we fixed Yavin's spelling to Yvain please.

May 17, 2006, 03:09 PM	#19
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	You failed to mention his fascination and rumored romance with Alexis... Other than that it's perfect!

May 17, 2006, 03:12 PM	#20
wilboman Hibernorse Frost Giant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A timeshare in Kwythellar Posts: 2,403	Both Cultural and Religious Victories worked fine for me. I did cheat and use the WB, but that shouldn't matter, should it? __________________ Member of the Fall From Heaven II design team, along with Kael Coalbane, Alazkan the Assassin, Chalid Astrakhein, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, and Yvain the Woodelf. Writer and Idea-comer-upwither.

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