Epsilon Foreign Ministry

Here are the screenshots from the Trade screen that General_W was asking for. As you can see, there are new techs available to us.

You mean NO new techs?

This is so weird!! What has been going on with the scores?!?
Is there any chance that Christianity was founded this/last turn? I think Theology is the only thing up the Monotheism tech tree that they could have that we wouldn't see.

At least it looks like Loco should still be interested in our proposed deal. I was worried they were going to suddenly show up with IW.

Now… I wonder why they're taking so long to respond…

EDIT: Thanks for doing that Peter!! Much appreciated!

I am not following? Those techs look the same to me as they did last turn??!?!

Could the score increases be due to population increases or any productions being completed?

Probably not for that many points... though it could be a part of it.

Only plausible explanation left is massive territory expansion... which I should have thought of sooner. With both Innovia and Loco having holy cities (and 2 holy cities for Innovia) - it must be that their land expansion points are now counting in their score.

Check in on the Demographics screens. I seem to recall that Loco had mad crazy populations - maybe not a big increase from last turn, but maybe so?

Wait - it was under Victory Conditions. Something like 25% of the population of the entire Planet Sirian are now Hindu (that's what Loco founded, right?)

As for Innovia I dont' know.

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* @Peter – Loco founded Buddhism, and it has held pretty steady at around 20% of the world population for most of the game. (As you can see in every update I post… e-hem!) - Innovia was the one with the truly dramatic single turn point jump… but they are the founders of 2 religions (Judaism and Hinduism – which combined make up just shy of 20% of world population )
* Upon further review, it appears the Loco and Innovia have NOT been trading - I think Innovia must have just timed their culture expansions such that they got a bunch of land points all together + maybe some pop growth or a new tech. Similar thing must have happened for Loco – where they had several turns in a row of getting the culture expansion points start to count. We can rule out any trading, because nothing new has showed up on Loco’s trading screen – and the only tech they could have gotten that we wouldn’t see would be Theology… and we would know about that because Christianity would have been founded.
Bottom Line = no panic… it’s just territory points.
* still waiting to hear back from Loco about our trade proposal. I say we give them another full turn cycle before we start to pester them.


* Next term this update will be moving to the State of the Empire thread. But for now, please post any general comments here, or talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Since our last note from Loco made it apparent that their team hasn’t been very active, they’ve really dropped the ball on responding to us. This is mildly frustrating… but also presents an opportunity. If Loco is half-asleep at the wheel, perhaps we can slip some more deals past them without a whole lot of review/oversight… this could be a prime trading partner for us!


* Next term this update will be moving to the State of the Empire thread. But for now, please post any general comments here, or talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Loco continues to stretch our patience by proving incapable of sending even a simple letter when they said they would.
* Given our need for sailing – Foreign Minister is considering pushing for researching sailing on our own if Loco can't get their act together.


* Next term this update will be moving to the State of the Empire thread. But for now, please post any general comments here, or talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

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Turn 98​

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Loco finally responds to our deal – they're working on IW, and so want a new proposal, which I have sent. We're offering Math (when we finish it) for Sailing and Monotheism.


* Next term this update will be moving to the State of the Empire thread. But for now, please post any general comments here, or talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

EDIT:
Oh - and I sent this note to Aloha...

Dear Aloha,

We have heard amazing news, from travelers from beyond the great black, of a Colossal Golden Statue that now stands in the harbor of one of the greatest cities in the world… Let us be among the first to congratulate you on your wondrous achievement!

The Leader sends you his hearty congratulations.

All the Best,
Foreign Minister General_W
Servant of the Leader
Epsilon Team!

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Loco moves up to our Most-Favored Nation in trading! And with their discovery of Iron Working, our new found friends are now the 2nd most powerful (points wise) nation in the world of Sirian.
* Confucianism has fallen to the 3rd most common religion in the world, but this is primarily due to our recent regimen of… citizen volunteers… in rushing projects.
* I finally beat Memphus to an update!!


* Next term this update will be moving to the State of the Empire thread. But for now, please post any general comments here, or talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

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Turn 100​

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From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Loco continues to move up the leader board… they’ve now passed Piffle and are the second team (after us) to cross the 300 point line. That’s got to make us popular in their book! … it’ll be interesting to see how Piffle reacts to this. If they’re paying attention even a little bit, they’ll probably figure out that we’re trading with Loco.

* It’s been a fun term! Look for these updates to continue in the State of the Empire thread – but you can continue to discuss any broad topics or any comments about my update (format, errors, questions, etc) here in this thread.

As always, please continue to talk about specific nations in their embassies!
Thanks!
**Piffle Official Embassy:**
**Loco Official Embassy:**

General_W had asked for theories about Piffle's stand-still score.

They are Philosophical. Maybe they are trying to push out a couple of great people? If they've set up two town, and run +6 gpp/turn those towns might indeed stagnate over the 17 turns it takes to get the first one popped.

Of course, this is purely speculative. They might also run +9gpp/turn for 11 turns, or even pump a few points extra for a turn or two and run down the granary.

Is there any part of the tech tree they could be working that we can't see?... due to us not have a prereq?

We can now see how Much cash everyone has as well as thier techs

I have no screen shot But Pfiffle is over 100, are they saving up for a lump sum payment for something?

So It looks as if Pfiffle is running at +36 gpt a turn I wonder what thier science % is??

In any event They may be saving up for Civil Service,

I am also thinking that is what Innovia will do.....

Is this trade also on the table as all other techs are??

Personally I am thinking this should come at a premium price no?

Piffle said that they were almost done with Code of Laws. I would bet that +36 gpt reflects them lowering the slider during the last couple of turns to save a little cash. I strongly doubt they are running +36 consistently.

Do we have power curve information on Innovia yet?

yes - sorry for the delay - I think I'll have the turn update done and posted here in the next 1/2 hour... maybe sooner.

Thanks. Just like you, I'm excited and impatient for the news.

In my hurry, I somehow forgot to write down that Loco built the Mahabodhi this turn. This confirms that Zoroaster (born turn 104) was indeed birthed in Loco land as I speculated.

Just wanted to make sure everyone who already looked at my turn update pre-edit noticed this!