Fanboys and people who think this game is the second coming of the Messiah are not welcome here.
Post your issues with the game here, so that someone trying to decide if Civ 4 is worth buying has at least one place where he can find objective facts.
Surely nobody could possibly expect to find "objective facts" (whatever those might be, just facts I suppose) in a thread entitled "Why Firaxis sucks". How you expect any of us to give reasons not to buy something none of us have played (or at least are under an NDA about) is also beyond me.
We don't already have enough whiny threads? And how is posting criticisms of the game without allowing others to post positive aspects "objective facts"?
here's some objective facts. post-patches, i have massive swaths of black blocking out my minimap and global view in otherwise explored areas. also, reports of the memory leaks demise are greatly exaggerated, expect to save, quit, and reload a few times in the modern age to alleviate this. also, don't expect the keyboard to work properly when entering numbers in the diplomacy window, it takes a few tries sometimes. expect a diplomacy system where the AI piles on negative modifiers to players that they don't apply to other AI's too. that being said, i'd say it's worth your money.
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My main complaint with Civ4 is the fact that I can play for eight hours straight without realizing it. It'll be 4:30am the night before an early work shift, but I'll just need one...more...turn...
While there is room for criticism, just because the game is imperfect does not mean that a) the company that makes it sucks or b) that you shouldn't buy the thing that supposed to improve it. It's fine to be a skeptic or a critic; in fact it's better than any of the other alternatives. However, the hallmark of skepticism is that you enter with an open mind, and insist on proof. So you DO buy Warlords, and then wait and see if it's actually better, or a bunch of hot air. Generally speaking (PTW excepted), it IS actually better, just not all it's cracked up to be. The only game I've heard as described by anyone with any taste in games whatsoever as living up to the prerelease hype was Half-Life 2, and even then that was a controversial point.
here's some objective facts. post-patches, i have massive swaths of black blocking out my minimap and global view in otherwise explored areas. also, reports of the memory leaks demise are greatly exaggerated, expect to save, quit, and reload a few times in the modern age to alleviate this. also, don't expect the keyboard to work properly when entering numbers in the diplomacy window, it takes a few tries sometimes. expect a diplomacy system where the AI piles on negative modifiers to players that they don't apply to other AI's too. that being said, i'd say it's worth your money.
oops! meant to post that in another thread, fortunately, it's still applicable here, just oddly phrased. my computer exceeds all specs except graphics card. before people scoff and say "of course you have graphic issues", i had no such issues on 1.52, all the graphic issues i have are 1.61 specific. the keyboard hiccups and memory leaks are unrelated to all that.
oops! meant to post that in another thread, fortunately, it's still applicable here, just oddly phrased. my computer exceeds all specs except graphics card. before people scoff and say "of course you have graphic issues", i had no such issues on 1.52, all the graphic issues i have are 1.61 specific. the keyboard hiccups and memory leaks are unrelated to all that.
I won't contest that Civ IV seems to have some memory management problems. However, I know I can play an entire game, start to time victory finish, on a huge map, without shutting the game off and without problems.
I suspect your computer's below requirements specs have more to do with your problems than you think.
Fanboys and people who think this game is the second coming of the Messiah are not welcome here.
Post your issues with the game here, so that someone trying to decide if Civ 4 is worth buying has at least one place where he can find objective facts.
Moderator Action: Perhaps make a judgement call when you've actually PLAYED the game? Until then, this thread is nothing but a flamebait. Warned, and thread closed.
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