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Old Jul 18, 2006, 10:54 PM   #1
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City on resouces

Is it smart? I'll try and get screen up ASAP
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 11:41 PM   #2
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Not usually, because the resource cannot be maximized.

In certain sitauations it can be strong (like strategic or defensive city pacements), but as a rule of thuimb, it is usually better to found a city near the resource and then work the resource.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 01:07 AM   #3
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It can be useful, as you don't have to build the improvement to access the resource.
So you can gain a happiness resource long before calender or can also be useful to plop a city ontop of copper especially if playing with raging barbs or on one of the higher levels.

I can't really think of any other time you would want to do it, as drkodos says you can't fully maximise the resource with an improvement.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 02:08 AM   #4
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I'm almost positive you won't get the (edit: should probably read health or happiness benefits) benefits of a resource until you've researched the proper tech.
It will save you the worker turns to improve it though, once you get the tech.

I'd say Sugar is a good one to settle on because the improved tile is not so good.
2+2=4 Food and 1 Commerce (from: A Comprehensive Guide to Terrain, Improvements, Resources, and City Placement. thread) EDIT: Sugar is 4 food 1 commerce (2 if riverside). I wasn't reading so well.

Bit about city placement

Stone/Plains/Hill is the 2 Food/3 Hammer city site.
EDIT: I see there are lots of those

I wonder what this means for settling on Oil post Scientific Method but pre Combustion. I'm pretty sure you can't build tanks. Just tested it, and Oil doesn't show up in the city settled on Oil till Combustion.

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Old Jul 19, 2006, 02:21 AM   #5
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When I put on a resource, that is when I can't do by another way, if no, I don't get other good tiles/resources in the zone, so I am obliged to put the city in this tile because of the region configuration.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 06:11 AM   #6
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I always avoid building cities on resources. I can't see any time it would REALLY be worth it.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 07:44 AM   #7
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I always avoid building cities on resources. I can't see any time it would REALLY be worth it.
multiplayer, copper.

incense (gives +1 commerce in your city tile and incense is usually a desert tile which means you're not going to be prioritizing working it because it's 0 food).

when the resulting fat cross gives you other good resources/tiles to work.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 04:21 PM   #8
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Here's that screenie:Click image for larger version

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Old Jul 19, 2006, 10:19 PM   #9
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Generally it's better to not settle directly on a resource, but there are a few exceptions:

If a mediocre resource, like ivory, happens to in the center of a beautiful fat cross, settle anyways.

Incense is good to settle directly on top of, since it will improve the value of the tile (2/1/2 > 0/0/6)

Once spies are in the game, it's worth just plopping a city on top of key resources, especially oil. This makes the resource immune to sabotage.

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Old Jul 20, 2006, 02:14 AM   #10
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 06:34 AM   #11
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Another time is when there are multiple of the same resource in the fat cross. Dye is notorious for this.
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