Best use for Great General?

plonzo · Oct 30, 2006, 03:38 PM

Fighting succesfully gives you Great Generals. Haven't found out yet how to use them best. Make military academies, turning into a warlord, or make him military advisor. Any thoughts?

tiznoast · Oct 30, 2006, 03:57 PM

after the patch, the military academies are going to be MUCH more attractive.

right now, however, I invariably just make them into warlords - attached to my best unit in a small stack of the best units I have to spread the experience around a bit - but not too thinly.

Bjorn190 · Oct 30, 2006, 03:57 PM

warlord + heroic epic

after patch, perhaps military academy or advisor

SpartanEvolved · Oct 30, 2006, 04:01 PM

Well, I use them for academies, then instructors.

flamingzaroc121 · Oct 30, 2006, 05:49 PM

i always use one for an attachment so i can get a level 6 unit for westpoint, but after that, it depends

GoodSarmatian · Oct 31, 2006, 05:38 PM

The first is used for a Medic 3 Warlord, the others join the HE city as instructors or are attached to high level units, so I can upgrade without losing exp.
Now with the patch I might build a military academy or two. They are better, and I'll be getting more Generals on Epic.

Loki cdn · Oct 31, 2006, 08:54 PM

The first I use to attach to an unit to get that 6th Level. I might change that with the patch and go for the military academy first. Second was MA in my best production city. All others become instructors in that city. Nothing like producing 17XP units in the later stages of a game.

Harrier · Nov 02, 2006, 07:32 PM

Don't forget that despite the boost to the Military Academy, you now have to research Education before you can build it.

I go for:

1st - Instructor (+2ex new units) highest production city.
2nd - Warlord ( ready to get the Heroic Epic).
3rd + 4th Mititary Academies in top two cities.
5th + Instructors in MA cities.

Lord Olleus · Nov 03, 2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki cdn

The first I use to attach to an unit to get that 6th Level. I might change that with the patch and go for the military academy first. Second was MA in my best production city. All others become instructors in that city. Nothing like producing 17XP units in the later stages of a game.

I've done better. Played as Cyrus and got 11 GG in the whole game. By the end, my capitol could pump out tanks with commando.

Panda · Nov 03, 2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Olleus

I've done better. Played as Cyrus and got 11 GG in the whole game. By the end, my capitol could pump out tanks with commando.

What level was that on?

^alon^ · Nov 03, 2006, 12:29 PM

first GG i use to build academies, the next ones i use as an instructors

abuaftab · Nov 08, 2006, 04:51 PM

What is the difference between instructors and military academies?

Thedrin · Nov 09, 2006, 03:22 AM

A military instructor gives 2 XP to every unit built in the city. It can also give you the 3 beakers if you run representation or 2 culture if you have the Sistine Chapel. You can have multiple instructors in one city.

A military academy gives you a 50% bonus to production when building military units. It also gives 3 culture. You can only have one military academy in each city.

kazapp · Nov 09, 2006, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiznoast

right now, however, I invariably just make them into warlords - attached to my best unit in a small stack of the best units I have to spread the experience around a bit - but not too thinly.

Take your best unit out of that square and attach the GG there instead, that way you won't have to spread the experience around at all.

Stolen Rutters · Nov 09, 2006, 12:16 PM

The problem with settling my GGs is that I always get the first few before I have the tech for the military academy (Education). That leaves the only choices as the military instructor (+2 exp) and the Warlord (unit). Of course, the military instructor wins out 9 times out of 10.

Rather than attach a Warlord to the best unit, sometimes I will attach him to the early Warrior that maxed out experience killing barbs (@10xp) so he can upgrade for free to Maceman or better. Otherwise, he would just spend most of the game being a happiness reducer deep in my territory. It's a cheap way to get that one extra combat unit (it's cheaper to replace a defensive unit than a combat unit). You never know, it might be that unit that takes that city one turn earlier than otherwise, saving someone else who would have had to suicide into the reinforcements (not to mention the power points you get from the more modern unit). It doesn't make as much sense if the low tech unit didn't have experience of course.

It's giving up a military instructor or academy, though, so it's more for fun than a real advantage.

Lord Olleus · Nov 09, 2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda

What level was that on?

Prince, normal speed, pangea, standard size.

Imperialistic owns.

Eggolas · Nov 09, 2006, 12:27 PM

Medic 3 promotion first off for a two-movement unit. After that, it depends on how far ranging my warfare becomes. I might need a second Medic 3.

Stolen Rutters · Nov 09, 2006, 12:33 PM

Medic 3 on a 2 movement unit...

that.

might.

work.

Wow, you're a genius. I need to try that tonight. Attack mode ON!

ABigCivFan · Nov 09, 2006, 12:33 PM

Early in the game, only barracks gives mil bonus(+3xp or 1 promotion). So have a single instructor means you can produce +1 level unit(+5xp or 2 promotions) in that city. That makes a HUGE difference when everything is so scarce. They give such boost to the quality of your forces. So I always settle the first 2 GGs in my 2 most productive cities early.

After you get education, run some calculations on your HE city, if adding a MA will mean producing 1 knight per turn Vs. 1 knight every 2 turns, DEFINITELY build that MA.

Warlord unit is fun though. After I have couple of instructors, i would assigned the 3rd GG to a mounted unit, get flanking I&II + tactics+leadership and go kick ass.

ABigCivFan · Nov 09, 2006, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Olleus

Imperialistic Owns

Imperialistic + Charismatic Owns even more.

Oct 30, 2006, 03:38 PM	#1
plonzo Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	Best use for Great General? Fighting succesfully gives you Great Generals. Haven't found out yet how to use them best. Make military academies, turning into a warlord, or make him military advisor. Any thoughts?

Oct 30, 2006, 05:49 PM	#5
flamingzaroc121 Emperor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,133	i always use one for an attachment so i can get a level 6 unit for westpoint, but after that, it depends __________________ *I'm not superstitious, I'm a little stitious*

Nov 09, 2006, 12:16 PM	#15
Stolen Rutters Deity Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,100	The problem with settling my GGs is that I always get the first few before I have the tech for the military academy (Education). That leaves the only choices as the military instructor (+2 exp) and the Warlord (unit). Of course, the military instructor wins out 9 times out of 10. Rather than attach a Warlord to the best unit, sometimes I will attach him to the early Warrior that maxed out experience killing barbs (@10xp) so he can upgrade for free to Maceman or better. Otherwise, he would just spend most of the game being a happiness reducer deep in my territory. It's a cheap way to get that one extra combat unit (it's cheaper to replace a defensive unit than a combat unit). You never know, it might be that unit that takes that city one turn earlier than otherwise, saving someone else who would have had to suicide into the reinforcements (not to mention the power points you get from the more modern unit). It doesn't make as much sense if the low tech unit didn't have experience of course. It's giving up a military instructor or academy, though, so it's more for fun than a real advantage. Last edited by Stolen Rutters; Nov 09, 2006 at 12:21 PM.

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Oct 30, 2006, 03:57 PM	#2
tiznoast Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 99	after the patch, the military academies are going to be MUCH more attractive. right now, however, I invariably just make them into warlords - attached to my best unit in a small stack of the best units I have to spread the experience around a bit - but not too thinly.

Oct 30, 2006, 03:57 PM	#3
Bjorn190 Warlord Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 108	warlord + heroic epic after patch, perhaps military academy or advisor

Oct 30, 2006, 04:01 PM	#4
SpartanEvolved Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 84	Well, I use them for academies, then instructors.

Oct 31, 2006, 05:38 PM	#6
GoodSarmatian Trusted Advisor Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany, The Horned City Posts: 5,223	The first is used for a Medic 3 Warlord, the others join the HE city as instructors or are attached to high level units, so I can upgrade without losing exp. Now with the patch I might build a military academy or two. They are better, and I'll be getting more Generals on Epic.

Oct 31, 2006, 08:54 PM	#7
Loki cdn Warlord Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gatineau, Canada Posts: 155	The first I use to attach to an unit to get that 6th Level. I might change that with the patch and go for the military academy first. Second was MA in my best production city. All others become instructors in that city. Nothing like producing 17XP units in the later stages of a game.

Nov 02, 2006, 07:32 PM	#8
Harrier King Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 874	Don't forget that despite the boost to the Military Academy, you now have to research Education before you can build it. I go for: 1st - Instructor (+2ex new units) highest production city. 2nd - Warlord ( ready to get the Heroic Epic). 3rd + 4th Mititary Academies in top two cities. 5th + Instructors in MA cities.

Nov 03, 2006, 12:29 PM	#11
^alon^ Chieftain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: israel Posts: 53	first GG i use to build academies, the next ones i use as an instructors

Nov 08, 2006, 04:51 PM	#12
abuaftab Warlord Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 141	What is the difference between instructors and military academies?

Nov 09, 2006, 03:22 AM	#13
Thedrin Deity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,419	A military instructor gives 2 XP to every unit built in the city. It can also give you the 3 beakers if you run representation or 2 culture if you have the Sistine Chapel. You can have multiple instructors in one city. A military academy gives you a 50% bonus to production when building military units. It also gives 3 culture. You can only have one military academy in each city.

Nov 09, 2006, 12:27 PM	#17
Eggolas Warlord Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 286	Medic 3 promotion first off for a two-movement unit. After that, it depends on how far ranging my warfare becomes. I might need a second Medic 3.

Nov 09, 2006, 12:33 PM	#18
Stolen Rutters Deity Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,100	Medic 3 on a 2 movement unit... that. might. work. Wow, you're a genius. I need to try that tonight. Attack mode ON!

Nov 09, 2006, 12:33 PM	#19
ABigCivFan Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: LA Posts: 1,037	Early in the game, only barracks gives mil bonus(+3xp or 1 promotion). So have a single instructor means you can produce +1 level unit(+5xp or 2 promotions) in that city. That makes a HUGE difference when everything is so scarce. They give such boost to the quality of your forces. So I always settle the first 2 GGs in my 2 most productive cities early. After you get education, run some calculations on your HE city, if adding a MA will mean producing 1 knight per turn Vs. 1 knight every 2 turns, DEFINITELY build that MA. Warlord unit is fun though. After I have couple of instructors, i would assigned the 3rd GG to a mounted unit, get flanking I&II + tactics+leadership and go kick ass.

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