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Feb 03, 2007, 11:58 AM
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Evergreen
Join Date: Sep 2002
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The weather was hot/cold/rainy/windy today. Who do we blame?
I don't know much about the state of global warming science, but I am baffled by a number of common popular interpretations. Namely, that global warming explains the phenomena:
1. Year X was warmer than the average. 2. The exact hurricane/tropical storm Y. 3. Area Z encountered a drought. ... Maybe I have the wrong informations, but I thought weather data was quite variable from year to year. In order to get a long term pattern, you need long term data. No particular weather event can be tied to a wholesome climate pattern, at best, it can be assigned a probability. I'm also wondering what can be deduced from geologically short time periods (decades) with regard to global climate patterns. Everything appears to be enmeshed in a slurry of partial truths, lies and innuendo. Few parts involved in the debate seem to have a genuine interest in the science, rather than money, populism and political favors. So what do you think and what do you know? |
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:01 PM
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Caprine Savant
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NuZee
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a lot of the current "facts" go on "ever recorded" an with icecores thats pretty damn far.
Most accept the world previously went in cycles of ice ages. The earth is currently cycling faster than previous.. human intervention? Have we ruined the cycle? Will nature be able to cope with the more rapid change?
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:18 PM
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Emo aspie
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax county VA, USA
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We blame nobody. Just because today is cold or warm or whatever doesnt mean its a direct result of global warming.
It could just be cold today because its winter?
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Argumentative Brit
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Worthing, Southern England
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You can't blame specifics on Global Warming, but there's a pretty obvious trend over the last decade or so, extreme weather seems to be the norm these days. Month after month seems to be the hottest/wettest on record or for the last XXX years. The last 5(?) Hurricane seasons have all been above average etc etc
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:32 PM
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Caomhanach
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Mary
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This last hurricane season was very very very far below normal.
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:37 PM
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STEP YO GAME UP
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: an ecovillage in Madagascar
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It's humanity's fault, more specifically America's fault, just like everything else (duh).
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:41 PM
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Saphire w/ Schweps + Lime
Join Date: May 2005
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I blame the North of England. If it wasnt for the industrial revoloution it would all be fine, except for the grinding poverty and disease.
*Just not the same without Prince of Leigh* |
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Feb 03, 2007, 12:41 PM
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Argumentative Brit
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Location: Worthing, Southern England
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must control entire world just one more turn must control world wine supply must...
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:06 PM
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アマデウス
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: 長崎市
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For future reference, here's who you're supposed to blame.
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EVENT ---------------------- BLAME Blizzards ------------------ ExxonMobil Cold weather --------------- Rush Limbaugh Drought -------------------- Microsoft Fog ------------------------ Pfizer Hail ----------------------- IBM High humidity -------------- FOX News Channel Hot wealther --------------- Philip Morris Hurricanes ----------------- Karl Rove Ice ------------------------ Monsanto Rain ----------------------- Bush administration Snow ----------------------- Wal-Mart Thunderstorms -------------- CEOs Tornados ------------------- McDonald's Wind ----------------------- General Dynamics
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:25 PM
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Escape Artist
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Florida
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:26 PM
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Deity
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden IQ: N/A
Posts: 7,270
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Why should we blame anyone?
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:28 PM
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Anti-Autotune
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Williamsburg, VA
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It's the guddarn liberals, just like always.
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:32 PM
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Evergreen
Join Date: Sep 2002
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 This is too good not to be recorded. Can I blog this? |
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Feb 03, 2007, 01:57 PM
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Yellow Jacket
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Atlanta, former CSA
Posts: 10,285
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Take it up with God.
Maybe if you're really convincing, he'll do something about the weather...
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Feb 03, 2007, 02:34 PM
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Runnin' down a dream
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago
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The best way it's been explained to me by a meteorologist is it's like a pair of dice.
There's the random factors which are things like weather and atmospheric changes and there's deterministic factors which include El Nino and global warming. The deterministic tends to exacerbate the random.
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Feb 03, 2007, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: UP UP UP UP NORTH! Posts: 4,112
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I blame the piratehunters, if it was more pirates, FSM would restore the temrature, its all theire fault!
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Feb 03, 2007, 03:12 PM
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Emo aspie
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax county VA, USA
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Lets blame bush, after all he is the popular scapegoat for everything these days isnt he?
I mean some people blamed the bush administration for hurricane katrina. Lets forget that human made global warming occured two hundreds of years before bush took office!
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When asked if he supported the death penalty laws for gay acts in the middle east this muslim poster replied with this Salah-ah-din: I agree with Allah and His Messenger. Phlegmak on how to win an argument: Because I have just made a bunch of completely nonsensical arguments and I refuse to change my stance, you're going to walk away from the argument in exhaustion. Therefore, I win the argument. Come to #fiftychat, where the cool cfcers chat! |
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Feb 03, 2007, 03:20 PM
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Reagan Republican
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
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Don't forget, when we have good weather its all thanks to Al Gore.
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Feb 03, 2007, 04:44 PM
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アマデウス
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: 長崎市
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You're all unpatriotic! And if you don't like the Colonies, then you can giiit out! |
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Feb 03, 2007, 04:49 PM
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Deity
Join Date: Aug 2002
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I figured General Dynamics would be blamed for massive forest fires.
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