Settler Factory

Ansar · Feb 18, 2007, 07:05 AM

So...I was rolling starts to find a nice one for me to build an empire with and I stumbled apon this beauty.

Now, looking at this start position, I immediately told myself, "self, don't move a mucle". I noticed that this was a perfect Settler Factory position, but then I had the question, how do I build a settler factory? I have three cows + FP Wheat, yet I don't know how to make a settler factory out of them.

So, can anyone tell me how to turn this beautiful start location into a settler factory?

Save is included: http://forums.civfanatics.com/upload...ks_4000_BC.SAV.

Tomoyo · Feb 18, 2007, 07:57 AM

One settler factory? Mine all three cows, ignore the wheat, and mine one of the grasslands.

Two? Mine two cows and irrigate one. One of the mined cows has to be the one west of Athens, and let your second city work it along with the wheat. Then mine pretty much all the grasslands.

Desertsnow · Feb 18, 2007, 11:32 AM

Sa-weet!

AutomatedTeller · Feb 19, 2007, 04:04 PM

You can make 3 out of that, I think. Your 3rd city has to go out to the plains and use the fp wheat, and you may need to get lucky with some BG under forest. The biggest thing is getting 5 food - 5 food, for greece, under despotism, is irrigate cow + mined cow, or irrigated cow + irrigated FP, or irrigated FP wheat.

The other question would be if you can get enough shields for 3 settler factories.

And, finally, how big a world do you have? is having 3 factories (actually, probably 2 setter and 1 worker factory) useful? On a tiny map, probably not. On a huge map, then you may end up wanting more

RFHolloway · Feb 23, 2007, 06:59 AM

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100256 will explain the process. You have sufficient surplus food for 3 factories without taking into account the flood plains. Your problem is likely to be the shields.

You could however make some wild stuff out of that. How about a 4 turn settler factory without a granary - you need 8 surplus food (10 total) and 8 shields. Irrigate all your food bonuses mine 1 grass and grow to size 5. at size 5 work all the food bonuses and a forest, same on next turn - you will grow (working an extra forest) switch one of the forests to the mined grass. in 2 more turns you will have the settler.

Sashie VII · Feb 23, 2007, 12:00 PM

A settler without a granary...reminds me of a time when I scoff at a start with two wheat on fp, with some more fp and BGs.

jb1964 · Feb 23, 2007, 12:07 PM

Thank you for posting the save as well.

BTW, what the pedigree of this thing? C3C, Map Size, ??

Ansar · Feb 23, 2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb1964

Thank you for posting the save as well.

BTW, what the pedigree of this thing? C3C, Map Size, ??

No problem.

C3C.
Continents 70%
I think it's Warm, Wet, 5 Billion.
No Barbarians.
Standard.

jb1964 · Feb 26, 2007, 03:24 PM

Heh, I started playing the save (It's Emperor BTW) and I had three population die three turns in a row. eek!

Ansar · Feb 26, 2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb1964

Heh, I started playing the save (It's Emperor BTW) and I had three population die three turns in a row. eek!

Yeah, I'm above Monarch now!

(It does suck that it is on a flood plain. I only got 2 pop. death turns)

Feb 18, 2007, 07:05 AM	#1
Ansar Détente avec l'été Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY (soon) Posts: 10,552	Settler Factory So...I was rolling starts to find a nice one for me to build an empire with and I stumbled apon this beauty. Now, looking at this start position, I immediately told myself, "self, don't move a mucle". I noticed that this was a perfect Settler Factory position, but then I had the question, how do I build a settler factory? I have three cows + FP Wheat, yet I don't know how to make a settler factory out of them. So, can anyone tell me how to turn this beautiful start location into a settler factory? Save is included: http://forums.civfanatics.com/upload...ks_4000_BC.SAV. __________________ Big Red (Physics) '14

Feb 18, 2007, 07:57 AM	#2
Tomoyo Fate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 9,697	One settler factory? Mine all three cows, ignore the wheat, and mine one of the grasslands. Two? Mine two cows and irrigate one. One of the mined cows has to be the one west of Athens, and let your second city work it along with the wheat. Then mine pretty much all the grasslands. __________________ No one can make the sun rise, but even I can turn on the lights.

Feb 18, 2007, 11:32 AM	#3
Desertsnow πr² Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,649	Sa-weet! __________________ Sometimes I think the world is divided into those who have a comfortable relationship with power and those who have a naturally adversarial relationship with power. -- Arundhati Roy Volume Eight: Harry Potter and the Danse Macabre Burning Times

Feb 19, 2007, 04:04 PM	#4
AutomatedTeller Frequent poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 7,477	You can make 3 out of that, I think. Your 3rd city has to go out to the plains and use the fp wheat, and you may need to get lucky with some BG under forest. The biggest thing is getting 5 food - 5 food, for greece, under despotism, is irrigate cow + mined cow, or irrigated cow + irrigated FP, or irrigated FP wheat. The other question would be if you can get enough shields for 3 settler factories. And, finally, how big a world do you have? is having 3 factories (actually, probably 2 setter and 1 worker factory) useful? On a tiny map, probably not. On a huge map, then you may end up wanting more __________________

Feb 23, 2007, 06:59 AM	#5
RFHolloway Analyst in the UK Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 858	http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100256 will explain the process. You have sufficient surplus food for 3 factories without taking into account the flood plains. Your problem is likely to be the shields. You could however make some wild stuff out of that. How about a 4 turn settler factory without a granary - you need 8 surplus food (10 total) and 8 shields. Irrigate all your food bonuses mine 1 grass and grow to size 5. at size 5 work all the food bonuses and a forest, same on next turn - you will grow (working an extra forest) switch one of the forests to the mined grass. in 2 more turns you will have the settler. __________________ Building our own wonder! An ARK in the Cambridgeshire Fens (construction now started!)

Feb 23, 2007, 12:00 PM	#6
Sashie VII Balance of Power Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where people build cat statues Posts: 2,370	A settler without a granary...reminds me of a time when I scoff at a start with two wheat on fp, with some more fp and BGs. __________________ l Cut The Enemy's Legs l The Rise of Moraie l Challenging The Demigods Blog

Feb 23, 2007, 12:07 PM	#7
jb1964 Hunter of Fish Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dork Chester, Ohio Posts: 2,439	Thank you for posting the save as well. BTW, what the pedigree of this thing? C3C, Map Size, ??

Feb 26, 2007, 03:24 PM	#9
jb1964 Hunter of Fish Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dork Chester, Ohio Posts: 2,439	Heh, I started playing the save (It's Emperor BTW) and I had three population die three turns in a row. eek!

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