Religions as Ideologies - Page 7

woodelf · Apr 18, 2007, 05:29 AM

I put the stuff in that folder and started a game. My city had two religions in five turns or so and neither showed up in the city screen. Let me make sure I'm doing everything correctly...

AlazkanAssassin · Apr 18, 2007, 06:25 AM

I think your game fonts file is corrupted Garret.
I opened the file in DXTBmp and have attached the normal and transparency layers. In the normal layer none of the icons should cross into the pink lines at all, or it will not work. And i have no idea whats up with the transparency layer, but it is clearly corrupted.

What program did you use to modify the gamefont files?

I recommend making all changes to the files using DXTBmp. It is slow and clumsy to work with (uses mspaint as the editor) but it allows precice icons and always works.

snipperrabbit!! · Apr 18, 2007, 06:33 AM

I think it's a blue dot issue.

GarretSidzaka · Apr 18, 2007, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlazkanAssassin

I think your game fonts file is corrupted Garret.
I opened the file in DXTBmp and have attached the normal and transparency layers. In the normal layer none of the icons should cross into the pink lines at all, or it will not work. And i have no idea whats up with the transparency layer, but it is clearly corrupted.

What program did you use to modify the gamefont files?

I recommend making all changes to the files using DXTBmp. It is slow and clumsy to work with (uses mspaint as the editor) but it allows precice icons and always works.

can i use DXTBmp to convert my corrupted .tga's to something proper? what is the exact format they need to be saved in? (im having problems with this elsewhere as well

)

edit: i ran these through GIMP!

AlazkanAssassin · Apr 18, 2007, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarretSidzaka

can i use DXTBmp to convert my corrupted .tga's to something proper? what is the exact format they need to be saved in? (im having problems with this elsewhere as well

)

edit: i ran these through GIMP!

Yes, DXTBmp can do it. It will take a lot of pixel by pixel editing to get the icons moved inside the squares and to get the lines and blue dots back in place. I'm not sure if the transparency larer is recoverable though, so you may have to reload that from an original gamefonts file and manually edit the transparency for the new icons.

I have not had any sucess using gimp to modify these files. It still works as a good graphics editor for the icons, so you can design them in gimp then add the icons into the files using DXTBmp.

woodelf · Apr 18, 2007, 02:16 PM

Would this be why they didn't show up for me? I really have no idea.

GarretSidzaka · Apr 18, 2007, 03:08 PM

alaskan assassin, can you try these ones out now? i cleaned up the alpha layer in DXTBmp

EDIT: dont try those ones. they are screwy

GarretSidzaka · Apr 18, 2007, 06:08 PM

hey bro i figured out how to edit these .tga's with GIMP. you just have to make super sure that when you save, you "Save As..." ctrl+shift+S

after you specify the file, then it will have some check boxes you have to uncheck, otherwise, it compresses the Alpha and gives it the static look

woodelf · Apr 19, 2007, 03:02 PM

Did I miss an upload that got removed Garret? Do you think you're on the right track?

GarretSidzaka · Apr 19, 2007, 03:07 PM

i will correct this file today. look here for the posting

darkedone02 · Apr 23, 2007, 09:37 PM

Well, will the Ideologies will transform the cities into something else just like FfH 2 did to their religion? Will you add this in later versions like... .33?

GarretSidzaka · Apr 23, 2007, 11:16 PM

i see no reason to add this if it needs significant SDK work (which i am unable to do

)

GeoModder · Apr 24, 2007, 07:48 AM

I see no reason to add it at all.

woodelf · May 13, 2007, 05:38 PM

Garret - Any work on the TGA?

GarretSidzaka · May 14, 2007, 01:49 AM

hey woodelf, didnt i already upload those things?? crap if i did not, then i will have to redo them from scratch, as i recently misplaces all of my accumulated civ files

woodelf · May 14, 2007, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarretSidzaka

hey woodelf, didnt i already upload those things?? crap if i did not, then i will have to redo them from scratch, as i recently misplaces all of my accumulated civ files

There were issues with the first batch and I thought you were redoing them. I don't recall you ever uploading the second trial.

GarretSidzaka · May 14, 2007, 04:26 AM

hmmm. thats crazy. crap well i can redo them easy enough. i have found a method that works good: shave off 2-3 pixels in size and they usually dont cross the invisible pink lines of glitchiness.

AlazkanAssassin · May 14, 2007, 04:37 AM

If you use DXTBmp for the editing of the font file then you can see those pink lines.

woodelf · May 14, 2007, 05:57 AM

I think they were also in the wrong spots since they never showed in my game as anything and some of my other icons were wierd as well. I had the Sugar icon in my civics screen everywhere.

snipperrabbit!! · May 14, 2007, 07:06 AM

Woodelf, my upload space is broken. Every time I try to upload a pic I get Pure Science URL. I will be very glad to see moon ideologies working and then do some further cleaning in my upload space.

Can someone recall me where are these tga files, please ?

Apr 18, 2007, 06:25 AM	#122
AlazkanAssassin Engineer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,230	I think your game fonts file is corrupted Garret. I opened the file in DXTBmp and have attached the normal and transparency layers. In the normal layer none of the icons should cross into the pink lines at all, or it will not work. And i have no idea whats up with the transparency layer, but it is clearly corrupted. What program did you use to modify the gamefont files? I recommend making all changes to the files using DXTBmp. It is slow and clumsy to work with (uses mspaint as the editor) but it allows precice icons and always works. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member of the Fall from Heaven II team with Kael, Chalid, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, Wilboman and Woodelf Last edited by AlazkanAssassin; Apr 18, 2007 at 06:30 AM.

Apr 18, 2007, 06:33 AM	#123
snipperrabbit!! Deity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,265	I think it's a blue dot issue. __________________ "Values too far out of the expected range can cause the game to behave strangely."Civ2Rules 46Techs, AUB for button makers, 59Miscs, 72Pack, walking on the moon, AUB from WW, italian renaissance BoardgameButtons

Apr 18, 2007, 03:08 PM	#127
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	alaskan assassin, can you try these ones out now? i cleaned up the alpha layer in DXTBmp EDIT: dont try those ones. they are screwy __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server Last edited by GarretSidzaka; Apr 18, 2007 at 06:06 PM.

Apr 18, 2007, 06:08 PM	#128
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	hey bro i figured out how to edit these .tga's with GIMP. you just have to make super sure that when you save, you "Save As..." ctrl+shift+S after you specify the file, then it will have some check boxes you have to uncheck, otherwise, it compresses the Alpha and gives it the static look __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

Apr 19, 2007, 03:07 PM	#130
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	i will correct this file today. look here for the posting __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

Apr 18, 2007, 05:29 AM	#121
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	I put the stuff in that folder and started a game. My city had two religions in five turns or so and neither showed up in the city screen. Let me make sure I'm doing everything correctly...

Apr 18, 2007, 02:16 PM	#126
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	Would this be why they didn't show up for me? I really have no idea.

Apr 19, 2007, 03:02 PM	#129
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	Did I miss an upload that got removed Garret? Do you think you're on the right track?

Apr 23, 2007, 09:37 PM	#131
darkedone02 The Suggestor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 1,558 Images: 1	Well, will the Ideologies will transform the cities into something else just like FfH 2 did to their religion? Will you add this in later versions like... .33?

Apr 23, 2007, 11:16 PM	#132
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	i see no reason to add this if it needs significant SDK work (which i am unable to do ) __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

Apr 24, 2007, 07:48 AM	#133
GeoModder Deity Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,461 Images: 1	I see no reason to add it at all.

May 13, 2007, 05:38 PM	#134
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	Garret - Any work on the TGA?

May 14, 2007, 01:49 AM	#135
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	hey woodelf, didnt i already upload those things?? crap if i did not, then i will have to redo them from scratch, as i recently misplaces all of my accumulated civ files __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

May 14, 2007, 04:26 AM	#137
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	hmmm. thats crazy. crap well i can redo them easy enough. i have found a method that works good: shave off 2-3 pixels in size and they usually dont cross the invisible pink lines of glitchiness. __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

May 14, 2007, 04:37 AM	#138
AlazkanAssassin Engineer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,230	If you use DXTBmp for the editing of the font file then you can see those pink lines. __________________ Member of the Fall from Heaven II team with Kael, Chalid, Corlindale, C.Roland, Hexagonian, Loki, Nikis-Knight, Ploeperpengel, SeZereth, Sto, Talchas, White Rabbit, Wilboman and Woodelf

May 14, 2007, 05:57 AM	#139
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	I think they were also in the wrong spots since they never showed in my game as anything and some of my other icons were wierd as well. I had the Sugar icon in my civics screen everywhere.

May 14, 2007, 07:06 AM	#140
snipperrabbit!! Deity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,265	Woodelf, my upload space is broken. Every time I try to upload a pic I get Pure Science URL. I will be very glad to see moon ideologies working and then do some further cleaning in my upload space. Can someone recall me where are these tga files, please ? __________________ "Values too far out of the expected range can cause the game to behave strangely."Civ2Rules 46Techs, AUB for button makers, 59Miscs, 72Pack, walking on the moon, AUB from WW, italian renaissance BoardgameButtons

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