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Turin Civ-User · May 17, 2007, 01:23 PM

will beyond the swords work too if i have not warlords?

Virulent · May 17, 2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Turin Civ-User

will beyond the swords work too if i have not warlords?

That is the million dollar question right now and it looks like Firaxis/Take 2 are silent on the matter. But from the info we're getting it seems there are two likely choices:

1) BtS will include all of the Warlords content (probably minus the Warlords scenarios however).

2) BtS will need Warlords to work.

I'm starting to think that it's going to be option 1 due to Firaxis/Take 2's silence on the matter. If BtS doesn't need Warlords to work then as soon as it's released Warlords is going to be as obsolete as Stonehenge after the discovery of Calendar. Since Warlords is still in stores (and was added to Steam not so long ago) I can understand Take 2 not saying saying anything about it until BtS is as close to release as possible to maximize the sales of Warlords.

Pres. Slayback · May 17, 2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz1356

They should include Ronald Reagan as a leader.

Yeah, even though I would love to see it I doubt that he'll ever be in there.

I see him as the modern equivalent of FDR...

But... as Sid has said to the question of adding leaders...

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Originally Posted by Sid Meir

As long as they are long dead.

Reagan only died a few years ago...I don't count that as Long Dead.

Pres. Slayback · May 17, 2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by njohns99

Traits: Sleepy/Forgetful

He had Alzheimer's...

CHE_GUEVARA · May 17, 2007, 06:04 PM

who cares about this new features????

there are a lot of scenarios with them...
Corporations.. are.... like religions so they dindt improve anithings... where are the new concepts???

ButSam · May 17, 2007, 06:42 PM

Perhaps the coolest single feature (if it lives up to the hype) IMHO is not yet quoted...

"The ways in which the AI will attempt to achieve victory have also been expanded." (Source: http://www.firaxis.com/games/game_detail.php?gameid=16 under Enhanced AI)

Although I must admit, the Espionage, Corporation, and Space Race a la Civ 2 features also make me extremely interested in this expansion!

Sam

Pres. Slayback · May 17, 2007, 07:03 PM

I love the idea of Corporations

I can take over the world with a corrupt, over-funded company!

Ace of Gold · May 17, 2007, 10:45 PM

I would love to see a new leader for Greece or England.

WingedPaladin · May 18, 2007, 04:30 AM

Looking for evidence of Sioux being the name of Sitting Bull's civilization. Anyone know where that was found?

ChrTh · May 18, 2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WingedPaladin

Looking for evidence of Sioux being the name of Sitting Bull's civilization. Anyone know where that was found?

IIRC, the original screenshot pic had the name Sitting Bull in it, which is how we knew it was Sitting Bull. However, the idea that the Civ was Sioux is merely from history. It sounds like there's just going to be a 'generic' Native American civilization with Sitting Bull as its leader.

uppi · May 18, 2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SMA333M

I want the Radar Artillery back too !

In the first screenshot from the IGN article, there is a unit that looks like an artillery gun on tracks. So there might be a modern artillery unit included.

Methos · May 18, 2007, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by uppi

In the first screenshot from the IGN article, there is a unit that looks like an artillery gun on tracks. So there might be a modern artillery unit included.

I believe that's the new anti-tank unit.

uppi · May 18, 2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Methos

I believe that's the new anti-tank unit.

Unlikely. It doesn't look like an anti-tank gun and it wouldn't make sense that the new tank counter would be a tank-like unit itself that from the looks of it needs at least the same prerequisites as a tank. In that case you could just build tanks as a counter.

However the unit looks very much like a mobile howitzer (e.g. the M109_howitzer or the PzH_2000)

madscientist · May 18, 2007, 09:10 AM

I haven't seen it mentioned but if there is a Charlemange mounted unit (one of the earliest released pictures) then isn't Charlemange one of the new leaders? The civ would be Franks or HRE I think.

GeoModder · May 18, 2007, 09:16 AM

This unit (or the model at least) has been around since Civ4 came out. I think it was meant as a mobile howitzer in some unreleased scenario. And now it will find its way in an official expansion.

Mmm... a cheap anti-tank unit... minelaying engineer(s) anyone?

Strahlemann · May 18, 2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gainy

I pose the same question as Shigga. Will this expansion be released as Civ3 Conquests was? Any info on the stand-alone-ability of this with regards to Warlords?

An uninformative response is better than no response at all...

A german webshop (http://www.okaysoft.de) is listing a "Civilization 4 Bundle", including Civ 4 vanilla, Warlords and Bts. So that could (!) be an indication that warlord isn't inluded in Bts. But I don't know if this is an official bundle. The covershot of this offer so far shows only the BTS-Packshot.

Edit: Wrong quote used.. corrected.

Zuul · May 18, 2007, 01:07 PM

Got some more info in swedish PC Gamer.

SMA333M · May 18, 2007, 02:55 PM

I don't understand something... what is new in the picture "Navy"

.. i see the same ships..

Methos · May 18, 2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuul

Got some more info in swedish PC Gamer.

Is it different than what has already been stated? If so, can you link to the BtS page? I'm having a little trouble navigating the Swedish site.

Masquerouge · May 18, 2007, 04:00 PM

If this expansion really makes the late game more interesting AND provide more ways to win peacefully, then it's a no-brainer... I'm eagerly awaiting it

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May 17, 2007, 06:04 PM	#45
CHE_GUEVARA Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Argentine Posts: 47	who cares about this new features???? there are a lot of scenarios with them... Corporations.. are.... like religions so they dindt improve anithings... where are the new concepts???

May 17, 2007, 06:42 PM	#46
ButSam King Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 625	Perhaps the coolest single feature (if it lives up to the hype) IMHO is not yet quoted... "The ways in which the AI will attempt to achieve victory have also been expanded." (Source: http://www.firaxis.com/games/game_detail.php?gameid=16 under Enhanced AI) Although I must admit, the Espionage, Corporation, and Space Race a la Civ 2 features also make me extremely interested in this expansion! Sam

May 17, 2007, 07:03 PM	#47
Pres. Slayback Warlord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 125	I love the idea of Corporations I can take over the world with a corrupt, over-funded company!

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Ace of Gold MAKE WAY FOR THE BAD GUY Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,628	I would love to see a new leader for Greece or England.

May 18, 2007, 09:10 AM	#54
madscientist RPC Supergenius Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 6,927	I haven't seen it mentioned but if there is a Charlemange mounted unit (one of the earliest released pictures) then isn't Charlemange one of the new leaders? The civ would be Franks or HRE I think.

May 18, 2007, 09:16 AM	#55
GeoModder Deity Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,467 Images: 1	This unit (or the model at least) has been around since Civ4 came out. I think it was meant as a mobile howitzer in some unreleased scenario. And now it will find its way in an official expansion. Mmm... a cheap anti-tank unit... minelaying engineer(s) anyone?

May 18, 2007, 01:07 PM	#57
Zuul Mod lister! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,117	Got some more info in swedish PC Gamer.

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SMA333M Warlord Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 141 Images: 14	I don't understand something... what is new in the picture "Navy" .. i see the same ships..

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