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May 17, 2007, 11:52 PM
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King
Join Date: Jan 2007
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New Great People?
What kind of new great people would you like to see in Civ? I would say a Great Explorer (Christopher Colombus and Captain Cook being obvious names).
Yes I know the Great Spy is already in BtS, but this is generally for the civ series in the future. |
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May 18, 2007, 02:47 AM
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Worker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: STL
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Hell, as far as I'm concerned, isn't Christopher Columbus as much of a Great Spy as he was a Great Explorer? Just use him as a Great Spy
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May 18, 2007, 04:20 AM
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Prince
Join Date: Jun 2005
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i'd like to see great philosophers. able to build a lyceum in a city that adds +X% to GPP.
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May 18, 2007, 10:37 AM
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Chieftain
Join Date: Jun 2006
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AFAIC I think Firaxis has pretty much gotten it right. I can't think of any additional categories of Great People that would really add anything unique to the game.
I'm still a little hesitant about the "Great Spy" concept. It seems rather silly that a spy would gain enough fame and reknown throughout the world to known as "Great." After all, famous spies are dead spies. The only change I would have made to the Great Person system is to rename Great Generals to "Great Tacticians." I would have only called them Great "Generals" if they combine with a unit. Otherwise, great tacticians could build war academies, lightbulb war techs, or join a city as a Super-Specialist Tactician. Just my opinion. |
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May 18, 2007, 10:53 AM
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I <3 Queen Boudica
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May 18, 2007, 11:10 AM
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Deity
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,016
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Great Explorers like Columbus are in the game as Great Merchants.
Great "spies" do not necessarily have to be dead. Many of them achieved fame only years after their work, like the crew at Bletchley Park in England during WWII. I refer you to this list, which I found while searching for names for my great people mod. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptographers |
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May 18, 2007, 01:20 PM
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Emperor
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canada
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But maybe it will be great as in skilled not necessarily famous. So if you hover a mouse over an enemy city that contains the spy (Before it is used) you couldn't tell it is there.. And I wonder if they will be extra good at stopping espionage, so it may be worth it to keep a few around for the space race. I wouldn't mind per se seeing Great Explorers. I noticed another under merchants, David Thompson. But h could technically be under great merchants as he was exploring for the Nor'Westers.. Mackenzie was there to I believe.
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May 19, 2007, 06:11 PM
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Scion of the Achaemenids
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May 20, 2007, 12:45 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Canada, Eh?
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I think the great explorer isn't a bad idea, benefiting naval activities, exploration and maybe civ relations. Maybe a great politician, wait, that's contradictory. But seriously, maybe a great leader, that can allow you to rush change civics without anarchy, and provide happiness and culture, and maybe a great medical expert which can prvide extra health and science to a city.
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May 20, 2007, 12:56 AM
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Deity
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May 20, 2007, 01:07 AM
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May 20, 2007, 01:08 AM
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May 20, 2007, 01:18 AM
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Warlord
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edit: unless ian flemmings in as a great artist. |
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May 20, 2007, 01:22 AM
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YHWH
Join Date: Sep 2003
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There should be a great missionary (of a particular religion), which unless the nation has adopted Free Religion will automatically convert that nation to that religion (provided there is at least some existence of that religion in the targeted civ).
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May 20, 2007, 12:09 PM
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Deity
Join Date: Jul 2006
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The only other GP I can think of that might be a good addition would be the Great Statesman. Has lots of possibilities.
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May 20, 2007, 12:24 PM
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May 20, 2007, 12:37 PM
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May 20, 2007, 01:07 PM
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Khagan
Join Date: Sep 2005
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From what they've said about 'Great Spy's' capabilities, I think they could probably rename it 'Great Diplomat' or 'Great Statesman' for no loss. 'Great Spy' just sounds silly to me.
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May 20, 2007, 01:12 PM
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Deity
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Austria
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In terms of game affects I suspect you're right. I can't think of many benefits that could be derived from a Great Statesman that couldn't also be derived from a Great Spy.
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May 20, 2007, 01:23 PM
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Deity
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I can--send it to the U.N. and you immediately get to force a petition of your choice.
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