Modders Guide to Beyond the Sword - Page 7

deanej · Jul 18, 2007, 09:22 AM

It can probably be done now - all units can get unique names like GPs.

Jet · Jul 20, 2007, 11:01 PM

Is there any change to what tools you must use to compile the SDK?

Kael · Jul 20, 2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

Is there any change to what tools you must use to compile the SDK?

No. I do it exactly like I did for vanilla Civ4.

PsychoDeli · Jul 21, 2007, 08:11 AM

Hi

I need a quick bit of help please. I'm no modder and I have little knowledge but I edit my game to make it slower and also to start building gold from the beginning. The place to change speed settings have not changed but I don't know how to enable gold production in BTS. Please help if you can.

Cheers

Chuggi · Jul 21, 2007, 08:20 AM

I'm having a problem with the new art styles. I can add the new ethnic units into the art style fine (and they appear in game under the appropriate civs) but whenever I try to add different buttons for the new ethnic units it seems to just show up as the default button art for that unit. Any ideas? Maybe I need to add something about the buttons to the main CIV4UnitArtStyleTypeInfos.xml file? I only have them listed in the CIV4ArtDefines_Unit.xml file at the moment.

TAfirehawk · Jul 21, 2007, 09:22 AM

I would like to invite any Civ4 modder, SDK, python, art desginer, xml editor, scenariomaker, etc to a NEW project a number of us modders are looking into...World of Civilization - a Collaboration of the Civ Community. This is really just expanding on the work done by Impaler[WrG], but one person can't do it all so we need all interested Civ4 modders.

Everyone who likes this idea, a total modular mod-development project, just PM me.

Impaler[WrG] · Jul 21, 2007, 10:38 AM

Chuggs find is confirmed, I'm hoping its an easy Fix, If so I'll send a patch to Firaxis, otherwise I'll request they have a look at it.

snipperrabbit!! · Jul 21, 2007, 12:22 PM

Do you have a link, TAf ?

TAfirehawk · Jul 21, 2007, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snipperrabbit!!

Do you have a link, TAf ?

I have registered a new website, www.WorldOfCivilization.com, but of course it won't be available for awhile yet.

We have a chat room and new forum site, but they really aren't setup either.

We will be setting up a new SVN at sourceforge.net I am sure, but that isn't done either.

So basically nothing is done, except that the basis for the work is Impaler and his CCCP DLL, which is where we are starting from and using the same basic premise.....make a mega-compliation of all the major Civ4 modding in a user selectable/modular format on top of BTS.

TAfirehawk · Jul 21, 2007, 04:20 PM

I now have a link to the PDF showing the first draft of what we have planned, http://tafirehawk.com/Civ/Civ4-BtS-WOC-2.pdf

Chuggi · Jul 22, 2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impaler[WrG]

Chuggs find is confirmed, I'm hoping its an easy Fix, If so I'll send a patch to Firaxis, otherwise I'll request they have a look at it.

Thanks it's really annoying me, it would be horrible to have to revert to the old "unique unit" ethnic unit way now.

Bringa · Jul 22, 2007, 09:06 AM

iCombatLimit is not a percentile value. It only is percentile if you leave MAX_HIT_POINTS in GlobalDefines unchanged. If you change max hp to say 1000, 100 combat limit means the unit can no longer do more than 10% damage.

Dom Pedro II · Jul 23, 2007, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chugginator

Thanks it's really annoying me, it would be horrible to have to revert to the old "unique unit" ethnic unit way now.

Well, you could always get rid of the current buttons and develop new, more abstract buttons that could apply to all units of that class. I mean, if this can't be fixed, then you'll have to decide which is more important: the buttons or the ease of the new system.

Impaler[WrG] · Jul 24, 2007, 09:05 AM

Personally I've been hoping someone would make 'neutral' buttons that just show swords/axes etc etc and could be used for that purpose. I find most of the new buttons to be very sub-par.

Chuggi · Jul 24, 2007, 11:21 AM

I don't like the new buttons either and they don't really match the older ones.

Any updates on the button fix for the ethnic units?

GarretSidzaka · Jul 24, 2007, 03:42 PM

It didn't look like the original texture artist's work.

purplexus · Jul 24, 2007, 06:07 PM

Main page is down

JUST BLANK

Kael · Jul 24, 2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplexus

Main page is down

JUST BLANK

Wow, that is just bizzare. I'll PM Thunderfall.

Dom Pedro II · Jul 25, 2007, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impaler[WrG]

Personally I've been hoping someone would make 'neutral' buttons that just show swords/axes etc etc and could be used for that purpose. I find most of the new buttons to be very sub-par.

Yes, neutral is what I meant by abstract. I think that would be the best way to go.

Watiggi · Jul 25, 2007, 09:43 AM

Umm, does anyone know where the trait infos are now? Civ4TraitInfos isn't there anymore and a search in assets reveals nothing for TRAIT_FINANCIAL and what not. So, where is the trait infos? (sorry if this has been explained. I did my best to read through everything)

Jul 21, 2007, 08:11 AM	#124
PsychoDeli Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3	Quick Question please Hi I need a quick bit of help please. I'm no modder and I have little knowledge but I edit my game to make it slower and also to start building gold from the beginning. The place to change speed settings have not changed but I don't know how to enable gold production in BTS. Please help if you can. Cheers

Jul 21, 2007, 09:22 AM	#126
TAfirehawk WoC Team Manager Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,326	I would like to invite any Civ4 modder, SDK, python, art desginer, xml editor, scenariomaker, etc to a NEW project a number of us modders are looking into...World of Civilization - a Collaboration of the Civ Community. This is really just expanding on the work done by Impaler[WrG], but one person can't do it all so we need all interested Civ4 modders. Everyone who likes this idea, a total modular mod-development project, just PM me. __________________ World of Civilization Modding Platform for BtS WoC is not a mod but an extension of the Modular XML Loading Firaxis released with BtS The WoC goal is to allow the player the choice of mod components from all BtS modders Do or do not... there is no try. Yoda

Jul 21, 2007, 10:38 AM	#127
Impaler[WrG] Civ4:Col UI programmer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 1,736	Chuggs find is confirmed, I'm hoping its an easy Fix, If so I'll send a patch to Firaxis, otherwise I'll request they have a look at it. __________________ Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche Civ 4 Community Core Project One DLL to Rule them ALL, Now a part of WoC, 3.02 version in the Progress Modular XML Loading 3.0 True Drag and Drop modability, Included by Firaxis in Beyond the Sword World Of Civilization A World of Mods under one roof

Jul 21, 2007, 12:22 PM	#128
snipperrabbit!! Deity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,266	Do you have a link, TAf ? __________________ "Values too far out of the expected range can cause the game to behave strangely."Civ2Rules 46Techs, AUB for button makers, 59Miscs, 72Pack, walking on the moon, AUB from WW, italian renaissance BoardgameButtons

Jul 21, 2007, 04:20 PM	#130
TAfirehawk WoC Team Manager Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,326	I now have a link to the PDF showing the first draft of what we have planned, http://tafirehawk.com/Civ/Civ4-BtS-WOC-2.pdf __________________ World of Civilization Modding Platform for BtS WoC is not a mod but an extension of the Modular XML Loading Firaxis released with BtS The WoC goal is to allow the player the choice of mod components from all BtS modders Do or do not... there is no try. Yoda

Jul 18, 2007, 09:22 AM	#121
deanej Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York State Posts: 4,859	It can probably be done now - all units can get unique names like GPs.

Jul 20, 2007, 11:01 PM	#122
Jet No, no, please. Please. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,319	Is there any change to what tools you must use to compile the SDK?

Jul 21, 2007, 08:20 AM	#125
Chuggi Espada Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hueco Mundo Posts: 2,363	I'm having a problem with the new art styles. I can add the new ethnic units into the art style fine (and they appear in game under the appropriate civs) but whenever I try to add different buttons for the new ethnic units it seems to just show up as the default button art for that unit. Any ideas? Maybe I need to add something about the buttons to the main CIV4UnitArtStyleTypeInfos.xml file? I only have them listed in the CIV4ArtDefines_Unit.xml file at the moment.

Jul 22, 2007, 09:06 AM	#132
Bringa King Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 671	iCombatLimit is not a percentile value. It only is percentile if you leave MAX_HIT_POINTS in GlobalDefines unchanged. If you change max hp to say 1000, 100 combat limit means the unit can no longer do more than 10% damage. __________________ "My lines seem to be finding their way into many a signature - many times uncredited."

Jul 24, 2007, 09:05 AM	#134
Impaler[WrG] Civ4:Col UI programmer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 1,736	Personally I've been hoping someone would make 'neutral' buttons that just show swords/axes etc etc and could be used for that purpose. I find most of the new buttons to be very sub-par. __________________ Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche Civ 4 Community Core Project One DLL to Rule them ALL, Now a part of WoC, 3.02 version in the Progress Modular XML Loading 3.0 True Drag and Drop modability, Included by Firaxis in Beyond the Sword World Of Civilization A World of Mods under one roof

Jul 24, 2007, 11:21 AM	#135
Chuggi Espada Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hueco Mundo Posts: 2,363	I don't like the new buttons either and they don't really match the older ones. Any updates on the button fix for the ethnic units?

Jul 24, 2007, 03:42 PM	#136
GarretSidzaka Deity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,688	It didn't look like the original texture artist's work. __________________ http://minesworn.com Minecraft factions server

Jul 24, 2007, 06:07 PM	#137
purplexus Prince Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calgary Alberta, Canada Posts: 477	Main page is down JUST BLANK __________________ Don't allow this to bother you and it won't. You're in Control.

Jul 25, 2007, 09:43 AM	#140
Watiggi Deity Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,104	Umm, does anyone know where the trait infos are now? Civ4TraitInfos isn't there anymore and a search in assets reveals nothing for TRAIT_FINANCIAL and what not. So, where is the trait infos? (sorry if this has been explained. I did my best to read through everything)

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