How can there be a BTS patch?

ggganz · Jul 21, 2007, 02:09 PM

BTS won't be released for 2 days and there's already a patch?

Rhymes · Jul 21, 2007, 02:14 PM

It's already been released in some part of the world, like Australia.

ggganz · Jul 21, 2007, 02:26 PM

So, since I preordered it from amazon.com, does that mean it will come with version 3.00 or 3.02?

Rhymes · Jul 21, 2007, 02:42 PM

who cares

just put the patch

Cabay Jet · Jul 21, 2007, 03:07 PM

It'll probably come with 3.00 since the CDs for BTS were most likely written and boxed up months before the release in order to meet up with the demand for the game. You'll have to download and install the patch as soon as you have BTS.

Sofista · Jul 21, 2007, 03:10 PM

See, the patch corrects flaws found after BtS went gold - this is why it came so quick.

Leonel · Jul 21, 2007, 07:06 PM

I bet they sent the thing off and then realized too late "OH NO WE DIDN'T FIX A BUG!"

nutnutwin · Jul 21, 2007, 10:12 PM

released in some countries already? real lame...

The Flame · Jul 21, 2007, 10:16 PM

I don't get it. They test the game, ship it out, and create a patch with a ton of fixes a few days later. I mean c'mon, what's up with that? It makes no sense...

Spearthrower · Jul 22, 2007, 02:10 AM

A design team, no matter how large, no matter how many dedicated testers and no matter the resources they have, cannot possibly expect to match the testing capacity of 100,000 customers.

It's actually a positive when a company is quick to respond to flaws like this. What's more - the flaws weren't in any way game stopping.

Quintillus · Jul 22, 2007, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonel

I bet they sent the thing off and then realized too late "OH NO WE DIDN'T FIX A BUG!"

Yep. Probably were celebrating sending off the final release with an epic game of Civ and what do you know, a major bug turns up. Then it's back to programming.

No, someone who bought it where it's already been released probably ran into it. Like Spearthrower said, a huge playing base will find bugs much more quickly than a small programming team.

The Flame · Jul 22, 2007, 12:04 PM

That makes sense now (two above posts).

DrewTate · Jul 22, 2007, 12:13 PM

And now all we need is a patch for the ability for the spy to make 24 mad faces or 24 sick faces in one turn and turn a capital city into nothing. Or a good modder.

The Flame · Jul 22, 2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewTate

And now all we need is a patch for the ability for the spy to make 24 mad faces or 24 sick faces in one turn and turn a capital city into nothing. Or a good modder.

That would be easy. XML. That's all you need to know.

DrewTate · Jul 24, 2007, 11:27 AM

I was being sarcastic. People said they have tried the new game on Marathon (the best game length option) and one spy can, in one turn, create 24 anger faces or 24 sick faces. And that needs to be changed. And I dunno what XML is.

Bushface · Jul 24, 2007, 06:04 PM

A few days ago, when I loaded Civ4 and Warlords on my new computer, I checked for updates, was told one existed, and downloaded and installed it. A few hours ago, having seen "new patch" mentioned, I checked again, found that this was patch 2.13, so I downloaded and installed it. No problems were reported: it does not seem to have affected my current game.
Note that I do not, as yet, have BtS installed.
Conclusion: this patch is for Warlords, not for BtS.

The Flame · Jul 24, 2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewTate

I was being sarcastic. People said they have tried the new game on Marathon (the best game length option) and one spy can, in one turn, create 24 anger faces or 24 sick faces. And that needs to be changed. And I dunno what XML is.

Oh, I didn't know that (don't have the game yet). Are they going to fix that?

Purest Warrior · Jul 24, 2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushface

A few days ago, when I loaded Civ4 and Warlords on my new computer, I checked for updates, was told one existed, and downloaded and installed it. A few hours ago, having seen "new patch" mentioned, I checked again, found that this was patch 2.13, so I downloaded and installed it. No problems were reported: it does not seem to have affected my current game.
Note that I do not, as yet, have BtS installed.
Conclusion: this patch is for Warlords, not for BtS.

If you patch the game while having Warlords installed, you patch Warlords.
If you patch the game while having BTS installed, you patch BTS.
If you patch Civ4 without addons, you patch Civ4.

There's a patch for each version out. Easy as pie.

MisterBarca · Jul 24, 2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewTate

And now all we need is a patch for the ability for the spy to make 24 mad faces or 24 sick faces in one turn and turn a capital city into nothing. Or a good modder.

This bug/oversight is so game-breaking that it really does not speak well of Firaxis programmers.

Chieftess · Jul 24, 2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggganz

BTS won't be released for 2 days and there's already a patch?

Because there's about a month to work on bug fixes while the game is being mass produced on CDs.

Jul 21, 2007, 02:09 PM	#1
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Jul 21, 2007, 02:14 PM	#2
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Jul 21, 2007, 02:26 PM	#3
ggganz a.k.a. The Scyphozoa Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sector 5 Posts: 3,485 Images: 2	So, since I preordered it from amazon.com, does that mean it will come with version 3.00 or 3.02? __________________ 3/2 Never forget, never forgive. Folding@Home: Cure cancer competitively, and lazily. Click here and here for motivation. My favorite place to eat. w00t w00t boogie woogie w00t

Jul 21, 2007, 02:42 PM	#4
Rhymes Drive 4 25 is back Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Montreal, quebec Nuts: 2 Posts: 4,061	who cares just put the patch __________________ GO HABS!!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 21, 2007, 07:06 PM	#7
Leonel Scrambled Egg Connoisseur Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 9,645	I bet they sent the thing off and then realized too late "OH NO WE DIDN'T FIX A BUG!" __________________ "While people say winning an internet argument is like winning the Special Olympics, the win still feels great!" "A man who see's enemies everywhere will find friends nowhere."

Jul 21, 2007, 03:07 PM	#5
Cabay Jet Warlord Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 279	It'll probably come with 3.00 since the CDs for BTS were most likely written and boxed up months before the release in order to meet up with the demand for the game. You'll have to download and install the patch as soon as you have BTS.

Jul 21, 2007, 03:10 PM	#6
Sofista card-carrying Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trento, Italy Posts: 1,456	See, the patch corrects flaws found after BtS went gold - this is why it came so quick.

Jul 21, 2007, 10:12 PM	#8
nutnutwin Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Shanghai, China Posts: 45	released in some countries already? real lame...

Jul 21, 2007, 10:16 PM	#9
The Flame ^^ bad diplomat ^^ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The end of the world. NC, USA :) Posts: 300	I don't get it. They test the game, ship it out, and create a patch with a ton of fixes a few days later. I mean c'mon, what's up with that? It makes no sense...

Jul 22, 2007, 02:10 AM	#10
Spearthrower Thrower of spears Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bangkok Posts: 1,607	A design team, no matter how large, no matter how many dedicated testers and no matter the resources they have, cannot possibly expect to match the testing capacity of 100,000 customers. It's actually a positive when a company is quick to respond to flaws like this. What's more - the flaws weren't in any way game stopping. __________________ Reality is what you bump into in the dark.

Jul 22, 2007, 12:04 PM	#12
The Flame ^^ bad diplomat ^^ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The end of the world. NC, USA :) Posts: 300	That makes sense now (two above posts).

Jul 22, 2007, 12:13 PM	#13
DrewTate Prince Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 596	And now all we need is a patch for the ability for the spy to make 24 mad faces or 24 sick faces in one turn and turn a capital city into nothing. Or a good modder.

Jul 24, 2007, 11:27 AM	#15
DrewTate Prince Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 596	I was being sarcastic. People said they have tried the new game on Marathon (the best game length option) and one spy can, in one turn, create 24 anger faces or 24 sick faces. And that needs to be changed. And I dunno what XML is.

Jul 24, 2007, 06:04 PM	#16
Bushface Deity Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Torquay, England Posts: 2,534	A few days ago, when I loaded Civ4 and Warlords on my new computer, I checked for updates, was told one existed, and downloaded and installed it. A few hours ago, having seen "new patch" mentioned, I checked again, found that this was patch 2.13, so I downloaded and installed it. No problems were reported: it does not seem to have affected my current game. Note that I do not, as yet, have BtS installed. Conclusion: this patch is for Warlords, not for BtS.

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