Space Victory gets respect

OKScientist · Jul 23, 2007, 05:32 PM

OK, I just finished a game on warlord difficulty (well, it was a learning curve game!), won a 1860 space race victory, but it gave me a normalized score of ~37'000 and August Ceasar's ability!

Now, IIRC, there was no way in vanilla that I would get an "August Ceasar's" when my space win was that late (athough I could remember wrong), even on higher levels. In the aforementioned game, I didn't have much land either (20+%).

So what happened? Did Firaxis change the score algorithm, so that domination victories are not the only ones that get high scores any more? If so, that's great, because peaceful gaming gets its due!

But please, let me know your experience with this.

futurehermit · Jul 23, 2007, 08:31 PM

I've got AC rating even winning later than 1900 and with lower score than 37k (warlords)

Mesousa · Jul 23, 2007, 08:38 PM

I thought the victory type didn't matter for the scoring anyway.

LlamaCat · Jul 23, 2007, 08:41 PM

space race in the 1800s is pretty good to me, I've gotten very high scores winning similar in the 1950s. I think the difficulty level affects how high the finishing score is. your game was only warlord level, but you finished pretty early.

InvisibleStalke · Jul 23, 2007, 10:32 PM

That doesn't sound unusual even for warlords. My fastest space time was 1802 with a score in the 50k area. That was on Monarch, but I didn't think level made a big difference to the score. My Monarch scores usually beat my Emperor scores.

I think in your case it was just a good finish time contributing to the score, not a change in the scoring.

Ozbenno · Jul 23, 2007, 11:00 PM

My first game was mucking around on Prince. Space in 1920s and 17,000 odd points and I got Augustus.

Maybe the threshold for Augustus has dropped.

Common Sensei · Jul 23, 2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozbenno

My first game was mucking around on Prince. Space in 1920s and 17,000 odd points and I got Augustus.

Maybe the threshold for Augustus has dropped.

It's been 15,000 as far back as Vanilla, I believe.

Ozbenno · Jul 23, 2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Common Sensei

It's been 15,000 as far back as Vanilla, I believe.

Learn something new everyday

Thanks!

Calder · Jul 24, 2007, 12:01 AM

I had a 1790 space race win playing Warlords on monarch level, and only had a normalised score of 19,490. Sounds like there has been a welcome change.

Ozbenno · Jul 24, 2007, 12:19 AM

I had a 1686 space win at Prince level with Warlords and got a measly 15,601 points.

OKScientist · Jul 24, 2007, 03:55 AM

In terms of in-game score, I had 4'747 points, 2'000 of which were from techs (completed the tech tree + 1 future tech), and only 600 were from land. So I get the feeling that techs give more points now, and that the normalization gives more credit to other-than-domination victories now (in comparison to what it did before).

It's only my feeling though.

Jul 23, 2007, 05:32 PM	#1
OKScientist Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 89	Space Victory gets respect OK, I just finished a game on warlord difficulty (well, it was a learning curve game!), won a 1860 space race victory, but it gave me a normalized score of ~37'000 and August Ceasar's ability! Now, IIRC, there was no way in vanilla that I would get an "August Ceasar's" when my space win was that late (athough I could remember wrong), even on higher levels. In the aforementioned game, I didn't have much land either (20+%). So what happened? Did Firaxis change the score algorithm, so that domination victories are not the only ones that get high scores any more? If so, that's great, because peaceful gaming gets its due! But please, let me know your experience with this.

Jul 23, 2007, 08:31 PM	#2
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Jul 23, 2007, 08:38 PM	#3
Mesousa -8.38 -6.67 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 478	I thought the victory type didn't matter for the scoring anyway.

Jul 23, 2007, 08:41 PM	#4
LlamaCat Emperor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,212	space race in the 1800s is pretty good to me, I've gotten very high scores winning similar in the 1950s. I think the difficulty level affects how high the finishing score is. your game was only warlord level, but you finished pretty early.

Jul 23, 2007, 10:32 PM	#5
InvisibleStalke Emperor Join Date: May 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,325	That doesn't sound unusual even for warlords. My fastest space time was 1802 with a score in the 50k area. That was on Monarch, but I didn't think level made a big difference to the score. My Monarch scores usually beat my Emperor scores. I think in your case it was just a good finish time contributing to the score, not a change in the scoring.

Jul 24, 2007, 12:01 AM	#9
Calder 13th Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 242	I had a 1790 space race win playing Warlords on monarch level, and only had a normalised score of 19,490. Sounds like there has been a welcome change.

Jul 24, 2007, 03:55 AM	#11
OKScientist Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 89	In terms of in-game score, I had 4'747 points, 2'000 of which were from techs (completed the tech tree + 1 future tech), and only 600 were from land. So I get the feeling that techs give more points now, and that the normalization gives more credit to other-than-domination victories now (in comparison to what it did before). It's only my feeling though.

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