[Bugs?] Horsemen of Apoc and red dragon strange facts

[Pocus]

I'm a bit suspicious of weird things having happened in my 0.23c game:

1. I trigger the first 2 Horsemen of Apoc. They head west (strangely) into barbarian land whereas there is the Sheaim next to them. Well, why not.

2. Some turns later, I reach there spawning location, where the Red Dragon (sorry forgot his name) is sitting in his captured city. What is strange is that the dragon is severely weakened (and there is no regular AI empire around to inflict these losses).

So, first question, can the Horsemen be buggy and be at war with the dragon? Because I never saw again the 2 horsemen, so they seem to have died.

3. I capture the dragon city. I get no message or gold, should he gives not a hoard/treasure (and this is my second suspicious thing to report).

[Pandemonis]

Do you have a save where you could use World Builder to check whats going on ?

[onedreamer]

Originally Posted by Pocus

I'm a bit suspicious of weird things having happened in my 0.23c game:

1. I trigger the first 2 Horsemen of Apoc. They head west (strangely) into barbarian land whereas there is the Sheaim next to them. Well, why not.

2. Some turns later, I reach there spawning location, where the Red Dragon (sorry forgot his name) is sitting in his captured city. What is strange is that the dragon is severely weakened (and there is no regular AI empire around to inflict these losses).

So, first question, can the Horsemen be buggy and be at war with the dragon? Because I never saw again the 2 horsemen, so they seem to have died.

3. I capture the dragon city. I get no message or gold, should he gives not a hoard/treasure (and this is my second suspicious thing to report).

1. ok
2. what do you mean by "there is no regular AI empire around to inflict these losses". Some units could have attacked Acheron and died...
3. you get the hoard tresure if you raze the city. Otherwise you get it inside the city.

[Pocus]

ok for 3., did not saw the wonder.

I opened the WB, and the 2 cavaliers are gone. I'm very dubious that one of the 2 close living empire could have damaged to 5.7 the dragon (or perhaps he never heal).

[Calavente]

is there some mana close to the dragon city ?
the horsmen spwan mana when dying...
and what kind of mana?

[vorshlumpf]

I can't remember the mana, but they're in the Wiki.

[Calavente]

I was asking him about the mana.
so he could check with the one given by the wiki and see if the hypothesis of horsemen attacking the dragon has some possibility.

(when they die while attacking you, do they leave the mana on their former tile or on the tile they attacked?)

edit : oh and for the hoard I have no idea.

[kenken244]

probobaly a game started before the no dragons hoard bug was fixed

[Pocus]

This is a game in 0.23c.
There is only one mana node, from the 3rd Horseman I killed. Horsemen 1, 2 and 4 don't seems to have popped anything.
If the Dragon don't heals its even simpler to kill it. He was at 5.7 strength when I reached it!

[Calavente]

if there is no mana adjacent to the dragon city, it means the horsemen did not fight with the dragon.

if there is at least 1, it could have happen; if 3horsmen died on the same tile, ther will only be the mana from the last killed HM...

Cala