Belgium Vs Japan!

philippe · Jun 03, 2002, 09:19 AM

Well soon it will be BELGIUM vs JAPAN
my bet: 1-0for JAPAN

i hope it will not be like that....
and what is your bet?

Hitro · Jun 03, 2002, 09:24 AM

Will Mpenza (Emile) play?

With him (but probably also without) Belgium should at least score a goal. I don't know if that will be enough to win cause Japan has the advantage of playing at home.
But generally they shouldn't be much better than Belgium.

philippe · Jun 03, 2002, 09:29 AM

Mpenza will not play.many of our players have problems so it seems bad for uss.....

willemvanoranje · Jun 03, 2002, 09:32 AM

I said 1-0 for Japan in one of the pouls too. The others 2-0 or 1-0 for Belgium. My friends needed another better for Belgium, so I (foolishly?) bet on them.

It's only 2 euros...

Baleog · Jun 03, 2002, 09:32 AM

I want the Japenese to win mainly because their fans have been great. Apart from supporting their own team it appears to me some of them have picked a psuedo - nationality to support. And these psuedo nationalitys are spread acrooss all the teams competing - not just the big 8.

Fair play to them.

Baleog · Jun 03, 2002, 09:33 AM

I want the Japenese to win mainly because their fans have been great. Apart from supporting their own team it appears to me some of them have picked a psuedo - nationality to support. And these psuedo nationalitys are spread acrooss all the teams competing - not just the big 8.

Fair play to them.

And I'm still kind of fuming over Belgium's performance in Euro 2000.

Dell19 · Jun 03, 2002, 09:37 AM

I think I went for a 1-1 draw as I can see it being a close game.

willemvanoranje · Jun 03, 2002, 09:38 AM

Nakata, Shinji Ono....it will be great.

Hitro · Jun 03, 2002, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baleog
I want the Japenese to win mainly because their fans have been great. Apart from supporting their own team it appears to me some of them have picked a psuedo - nationality to support. And these psuedo nationalitys are spread acrooss all the teams competing - not just the big 8.

Fair play to them.

Hmm, I disagree. I don't like that at all.
What the point in a "pseudo-nationality"?
Besides that it even got organized by the Korea/Japan World Cup organization, at least that's what I saw on TV months before the tournament started. People were instructed to cheer for specific teams and dress in their colours just to make it seem more like football.
But in my opinion the atmosphere in most games is quite low. There's no singing for example. Of course that ok if they do it like that but I won't congratulate on it.

Baleog · Jun 03, 2002, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hitro

Besides that it even got organized by the Korea/Japan World Cup organization, at least that's what I saw on TV months before the tournament started. People were instructed to cheer for specific teams and dress in their colours just to make it seem more like football.
But in my opinion the atmosphere in most games is quite low. There's no singing for example. Of course that ok if they do it like that but I won't congratulate on it.

Hmmm.... then I'm not so sure. Instructed sounds a bit Orwellian facist. I'd say they were just asked nicely. But at least they're making an effort in some way. As it's safe to assume that Japan/South Korea won't make it to the quarters (I think it's safe, they may yet surprise) you can't just have that set of fans twiddling their thumbs for the rest of the competition. At least some will still be actively involved.

As for the no singing so far?

Did you not see the Ireland - Cameroon game. Amazing atmosphere in the second half. In USA 94 I wouldn't have expected the American fans to be singing when other teams were playing.

Hitro · Jun 03, 2002, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Baleog
As for the no singing so far?

Did you not see the Ireland - Cameroon game. Amazing atmosphere in the second half. In USA 94 I wouldn't have expected the American fans to be singing when other teams were playing.

Sure there was singing occasionally. And some teams had enough real fans there to ensure a good atmosphere. But for many countries' supporters it's simply far too expensive. You'll hardly find thousands of Senegalese fans who can afford supporting their team in Asia.
You're right that USA 94 wasn't that different in that matter. I generally think the World Cup should be held in countries that care about football and not those where FIFA wants to gain commercial influence.

Baleog · Jun 03, 2002, 10:15 AM

If the world cup is never held in the non interested countries, those countries may never be interested. Obviously there is capitalism involved also, but I think such countries shouldn't be denied the world cup.

Although the football fanatical countries do deserve it more than they have been getting it recently. When was the last time it was held in S America? But say the world cup was held in Brazil. I can't imagine much Brazilian fans cheering on another country.

Singing occasionly? Are you crazy?

Actually did you know a lot more Irish people would have gone (about twice as many thereabouts) except the price of drink is too high in Japan!

Hitro · Jun 03, 2002, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baleog
Actually did you know a lot more Irish people would have gone (about twice as many thereabouts) except the price of drink is too high in Japan!

Okay, okay...
Though I won't consider the Irish poor.

Yop73 · Jun 03, 2002, 12:28 PM

My bet,
2-0 for Belgium of course.
Cmon Philippe, you must believe in the chances of your own nation's team.

philippe · Jun 03, 2002, 12:47 PM

I know.....but Japan is so ful with discipline and they are in their homecountry and that counts....
And many players of our team have trouble(blessures)injuries etc.
i hope Belgium wins but....

Well we will see tomorrow.

animepornstar · Jun 03, 2002, 12:53 PM

i said 1-1 in the wc competion, but it feels more like 2-1 to japan right now. they will fight very hard and press the ballkeeper all the time and belgium doesn´t, as far as i can remember, have any good dribbler in the midfield that can go through. that was what happened when we (sweden) met japan.

curswine · Jun 03, 2002, 03:07 PM

well I think that Japan will win 1-0 since Japan is one of the up and coming nations in the football world and a few of there players are gaining experience from playing in europe and should be a good match

Dell19 · Jun 04, 2002, 04:37 AM

Well it ended 2-2 and it was a great game. Japan were unlucky not to win near the end but I was happy with a draw.

Beam · Jun 04, 2002, 04:45 AM

Yep, the 2nd half was the most exciting in the tournament until now! Japan was unlucky in the final minutes when they did not get that goal. Belgium surprised me with a better offense than expected and flaws in the defense where they usually are solid.

willemvanoranje · Jun 04, 2002, 08:03 AM

Yeah. I saw it from the 1-1. Indeed the best game till now.

Jun 03, 2002, 09:19 AM	#1
philippe FYI, I chase trains. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bourgondische Kreitz Posts: 11,416	Belgium Vs Japan! Well soon it will be BELGIUM vs JAPAN my bet: 1-0for JAPAN i hope it will not be like that.... and what is your bet? __________________ THIS TEXT IS ORANGE

Jun 03, 2002, 09:29 AM	#3
philippe FYI, I chase trains. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bourgondische Kreitz Posts: 11,416	Mpenza will not play.many of our players have problems so it seems bad for uss..... __________________ THIS TEXT IS ORANGE

Jun 03, 2002, 09:32 AM	#4
willemvanoranje Curitibano Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam/Stuttgart/Curitiba/Lima Posts: 8,207	I said 1-0 for Japan in one of the pouls too. The others 2-0 or 1-0 for Belgium. My friends needed another better for Belgium, so I (foolishly?) bet on them. It's only 2 euros... __________________ Ajax Amsterdam Coritiba Paraná PC -4.88, -6.41: Left, Libertarian PS -4.11, +0.34: Left, Pragmatic

Jun 03, 2002, 09:32 AM	#5
Baleog THE FIERCE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,217	I want the Japenese to win mainly because their fans have been great. Apart from supporting their own team it appears to me some of them have picked a psuedo - nationality to support. And these psuedo nationalitys are spread acrooss all the teams competing - not just the big 8. Fair play to them. __________________ Got the style, got the grace, Got the clothes, but not the face.

Jun 03, 2002, 09:33 AM	#6
Baleog THE FIERCE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,217	I want the Japenese to win mainly because their fans have been great. Apart from supporting their own team it appears to me some of them have picked a psuedo - nationality to support. And these psuedo nationalitys are spread acrooss all the teams competing - not just the big 8. Fair play to them. And I'm still kind of fuming over Belgium's performance in Euro 2000. __________________ Got the style, got the grace, Got the clothes, but not the face.

Jun 03, 2002, 09:24 AM	#2
Hitro Feistus Raclettus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North German Plain Posts: 12,340	Will Mpenza (Emile) play? With him (but probably also without) Belgium should at least score a goal. I don't know if that will be enough to win cause Japan has the advantage of playing at home. But generally they shouldn't be much better than Belgium.

Jun 03, 2002, 09:37 AM	#7
Dell19 Take a break Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London Posts: 15,883	I think I went for a 1-1 draw as I can see it being a close game. __________________ The MTW Succession game at CFC and the Viking Invasion succession game!, may be back one day. The Unification of Russia - A EUII AAR! Venice, a Great Power - A EUII AAR! Aragon, Catalan Independence - A EUII AAR! Italian EUII AAR - Who can stop the Ottomans? The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Jun 03, 2002, 09:38 AM	#8
willemvanoranje Curitibano Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam/Stuttgart/Curitiba/Lima Posts: 8,207	Nakata, Shinji Ono....it will be great. __________________ Ajax Amsterdam Coritiba Paraná PC -4.88, -6.41: Left, Libertarian PS -4.11, +0.34: Left, Pragmatic

Jun 03, 2002, 10:15 AM	#12
Baleog THE FIERCE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,217	If the world cup is never held in the non interested countries, those countries may never be interested. Obviously there is capitalism involved also, but I think such countries shouldn't be denied the world cup. Although the football fanatical countries do deserve it more than they have been getting it recently. When was the last time it was held in S America? But say the world cup was held in Brazil. I can't imagine much Brazilian fans cheering on another country. Singing occasionly? Are you crazy? Actually did you know a lot more Irish people would have gone (about twice as many thereabouts) except the price of drink is too high in Japan! __________________ Got the style, got the grace, Got the clothes, but not the face.

Jun 03, 2002, 12:28 PM	#14
Yop73 Exams suck Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,441	My bet, 2-0 for Belgium of course. Cmon Philippe, you must believe in the chances of your own nation's team.

Jun 03, 2002, 12:47 PM	#15
philippe FYI, I chase trains. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bourgondische Kreitz Posts: 11,416	I know.....but Japan is so ful with discipline and they are in their homecountry and that counts.... And many players of our team have trouble(blessures)injuries etc. i hope Belgium wins but.... Well we will see tomorrow. __________________ THIS TEXT IS ORANGE

Jun 03, 2002, 12:53 PM	#16
animepornstar Deity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: hell Posts: 2,350	i said 1-1 in the wc competion, but it feels more like 2-1 to japan right now. they will fight very hard and press the ballkeeper all the time and belgium doesn´t, as far as i can remember, have any good dribbler in the midfield that can go through. that was what happened when we (sweden) met japan.

Jun 03, 2002, 03:07 PM	#17
curswine El Nombré Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: England Posts: 106	well I think that Japan will win 1-0 since Japan is one of the up and coming nations in the football world and a few of there players are gaining experience from playing in europe and should be a good match

Jun 04, 2002, 04:37 AM	#18
Dell19 Take a break Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London Posts: 15,883	Well it ended 2-2 and it was a great game. Japan were unlucky not to win near the end but I was happy with a draw. __________________ The MTW Succession game at CFC and the Viking Invasion succession game!, may be back one day. The Unification of Russia - A EUII AAR! Venice, a Great Power - A EUII AAR! Aragon, Catalan Independence - A EUII AAR! Italian EUII AAR - Who can stop the Ottomans? The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Jun 04, 2002, 04:45 AM	#19
Beam Beat 'm up Scotty! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At 51º35'N 4º46'E Posts: 1,564	Yep, the 2nd half was the most exciting in the tournament until now! Japan was unlucky in the final minutes when they did not get that goal. Belgium surprised me with a better offense than expected and flaws in the defense where they usually are solid. __________________ Je maintiendrai Wanna play PBEM? Gimme a call here: Beams hangout

Jun 04, 2002, 08:03 AM	#20
willemvanoranje Curitibano Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam/Stuttgart/Curitiba/Lima Posts: 8,207	Yeah. I saw it from the 1-1. Indeed the best game till now. __________________ Ajax Amsterdam Coritiba Paraná PC -4.88, -6.41: Left, Libertarian PS -4.11, +0.34: Left, Pragmatic

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