Questions about The BUG Mod - Page 8

NagyGL · May 17, 2008, 03:19 PM

Another idea: I installed the mod as everyone, so the only problem could be in the following My Games\BtS dirs: assets, CustomAssets. The other dirs are either empty (Patch etc.), ineffective (e.g. Screenshots) or made by the mod (BUG Mod & MODS). Would it make any sense to compare my assets/CustomAssets lib contents to yours?

alerum68 · May 17, 2008, 10:37 PM

Can you tell me how you installed it NagyGL? It sounds like it's not locating the BUG Mod.INI file. There should be a directory called BUG Mod inside of the BTS folder within My Docs/My Games, or My Docs/My Games/Beyond the Sword. Check that the BUG Mod.ini file is in there, and make sure it's the one included in the installer or zip.

alerum68 · May 17, 2008, 10:40 PM

Yes, if you install it as a MOD it has to be named Assets. Only if you want to have it run every time do you put it as the CustomAssets, but not in a MOD directory, just in the My Docs/My Games/BTS folder.

NagyGL · May 18, 2008, 02:42 AM

Last time I used the .exe installer and get the following file structures:

Spoiler:

I have checked when the .ini files have been accessed. In the case of the smaller BUG Mod.ini (containing only base config) this was yesterday (as it should be), but according to the Windows, the bigger .ini (with the config like scoreboard options) and the gamefont_75 file has been accessed at 6th May - so probably you are right! But what can be the reason?

The Doc · May 18, 2008, 03:08 AM

Try moving everything in "BUG Mod" folder to "Mods\BUG Mod". Then you should be able to load BUG as a mod.
Or is this the new folder structure for BUG?

alerum68 · May 18, 2008, 10:13 AM

Did you run the installer using both CustomAssets and as the MOD dir? Try uninstalling, and installing just to the Mods directory only and see if that helps.

@ Doc - Yes, that is a new file structure we're going to be using. It allows the BUG Mod settings to be used for any MOD that is using BUG 2.30.

NagyGL · May 18, 2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerum68

Did you run the installer using both CustomAssets and as the MOD dir? Try uninstalling, and installing just to the Mods directory only and see if that helps.

No, I let the installer work on its own and installed it only to the MOD dir

Well, since the MOD and the install were correct, and you haven't met this phenomenon before, the problem can be only with my BtS install. I'll try to reinstall later this week, if I'll have time to do that. Thank you for your help and time, I really appreciate it

Keep up the good work!

alerum68 · May 18, 2008, 04:32 PM

We did encounter it one time before, and it was a problem with the BTS install. If you search our forum, you may find something more on it... I think it was back in our first thread, which is probably at the bottom of the forum now. It's been closed... It's called the same as the forum name.

Cammagno · May 18, 2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NagyGL

Last time I used the .exe installer and get the following file structures:

Spoiler:

Ok, I don't know as you get this (never used the installer myself, I hate them) but I think the problem is rather clear, you have a mess of files, and in particular two BUG Mod.ini.
My suggestion is to delete the BUG Mod.ini that is in My Games/BtS/BUG Mod and moving everything else that is in that folder to the correct folder My Games/BtS/MODS/BUG Mod. The only thing that I don't know is which of the two BUG Mod.ini files is the correct one, so try both of them in turn.

zulu9812 · May 20, 2008, 06:43 AM

Is there any documentation for the unit naming conventions? It all looks like gobbledegook to me

ruff_hi · May 20, 2008, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulu9812

Is there any documentation for the unit naming conventions? It all looks like gobbledegook to me

yes - check the help file - 'BUG Mod Help.chm'. Help and examples.

zulu9812 · May 20, 2008, 02:02 PM

Aah, my bad. I was experiencing the BUG mod through Keldath's Overlord mod, and he hadn't provided any documentation.

sethi_i · May 21, 2008, 08:31 PM

Is there a way to tell what version of Bug is installed? Last night I uninstalled 2.2 and d'led 2.3 and installed it. I used the installer and everything is setup as before. Bug Mod ini is in the main BTS folder. I have the Bat mod setup to run on startup. Blue Marble is also installed and running.

I started a new game and everything looked fine, except there are no new PLE buttons. The MA also looked the same. I went through the options screen and found no new options for the PLE addition. I checked the Bug ini and the PLE code is detailed and looks like it should display everything (lines for promotable/wounded/etc). I also double checked to ensure that I didn't reinstall 2.2 (I've done stupid-er things). The executable is for 2.3. I'm sure the answer to this is simple, but I can't figure it out.

Thanks

ruff_hi · May 21, 2008, 08:34 PM

Look at the option screen - bottom right. Should have the version and revision numbers there.

EmperorFool · May 21, 2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethi_i

I have the Bat mod setup to run on startup.

The BAT installer hasn't been updated to use BUG 2.3 yet. You should be able to copy the contents of CustomAssets from BUG 2.3 over Assets in BAT, but I'd make a backup first. You mentioned having BlueMarble, and while it should work with BAT and BUG, I don't know how it will like being copied into the BAT mod folder. It should be okay, though.

sethi_i · May 21, 2008, 09:42 PM

Ruff...the one thing I forgot to say was the options screen shows the BAT version, not the BUG version. I guess it's because I have BAT setup as the mod?

EF...That was exactly it, and Blue Marble is fine too.

Thanks

Balderstrom · May 21, 2008, 11:18 PM

Blue Marble sits at the MyDocs CustomAssets\Art level, along w/ some changes in the program directory itself: Assets\Res & Resource\
At least from what I've seen they're in pretty disparate locations and don't conflict at all.

ck07 · May 23, 2008, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerum68

Please post all questions pertaining to installation, setup, or other minor issues here instead of starting a new thread.

Thank you!

When I clicked on "download BAT here" it seemed to include 10+ separate items. Is there no avaiable place to download BUG and BAT as one download each?

Thanks.

alerum68 · May 23, 2008, 03:17 PM

Just download the latest one. Those are all the releases we've mad... you only need to download the file called "BUGMod_230.exe"

EmperorFool · May 23, 2008, 08:44 PM

Same for BAT. And the latest BAT includes the previous BUG -- not the latest 2.30.

May 17, 2008, 10:37 PM	#142
alerum68 Priest of Hiroshima Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,515	Can you tell me how you installed it NagyGL? It sounds like it's not locating the BUG Mod.INI file. There should be a directory called BUG Mod inside of the BTS folder within My Docs/My Games, or My Docs/My Games/Beyond the Sword. Check that the BUG Mod.ini file is in there, and make sure it's the one included in the installer or zip. __________________ My misconception is closest to the truth... Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay Project - BUGs, and BATs, and BULLs... oh my! How to Release Your Mod! لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

May 17, 2008, 10:40 PM	#143
alerum68 Priest of Hiroshima Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,515	Yes, if you install it as a MOD it has to be named Assets. Only if you want to have it run every time do you put it as the CustomAssets, but not in a MOD directory, just in the My Docs/My Games/BTS folder. __________________ My misconception is closest to the truth... Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay Project - BUGs, and BATs, and BULLs... oh my! How to Release Your Mod! لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

May 18, 2008, 02:42 AM	#144
NagyGL Chieftain Join Date: May 2008 Location: Budapest Posts: 5	Last time I used the .exe installer and get the following file structures: Spoiler: All in My Games/BtS: BUG Mod > CustomDomAdv, Adv Unit Naming.ini, BUG Mod Help.chm, BUG Mod.ini, GNU License.rtf CustomAssets > 5 empty subfolders MODS > BUG Mod > Assets, BUG Mod.ini, BUG Mod.ini.bak, Uninstall_BUG.exe Various other subfolders (see on image) CivilizationIV.ini CivilizationIV.ini.bak Or see as attached... I have checked when the .ini files have been accessed. In the case of the smaller BUG Mod.ini (containing only base config) this was yesterday (as it should be), but according to the Windows, the bigger .ini (with the config like scoreboard options) and the gamefont_75 file has been accessed at 6th May - so probably you are right! But what can be the reason? Attached Thumbnails

May 18, 2008, 03:08 AM	#145
The Doc Time Lord Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: between time and space Posts: 344	Try moving everything in "BUG Mod" folder to "Mods\BUG Mod". Then you should be able to load BUG as a mod. Or is this the new folder structure for BUG? __________________ "Doctor? Doctor who...?" The Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay (BUG) Mod "It'll blow your mind!" - Sid M. Check out BAT and BULL, too.

May 18, 2008, 10:13 AM	#146
alerum68 Priest of Hiroshima Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,515	Did you run the installer using both CustomAssets and as the MOD dir? Try uninstalling, and installing just to the Mods directory only and see if that helps. @ Doc - Yes, that is a new file structure we're going to be using. It allows the BUG Mod settings to be used for any MOD that is using BUG 2.30. __________________ My misconception is closest to the truth... Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay Project - BUGs, and BATs, and BULLs... oh my! How to Release Your Mod! لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

May 17, 2008, 03:19 PM	#141
NagyGL Chieftain Join Date: May 2008 Location: Budapest Posts: 5	Another idea: I installed the mod as everyone, so the only problem could be in the following My Games\BtS dirs: assets, CustomAssets. The other dirs are either empty (Patch etc.), ineffective (e.g. Screenshots) or made by the mod (BUG Mod & MODS). Would it make any sense to compare my assets/CustomAssets lib contents to yours?

May 18, 2008, 04:32 PM	#148
alerum68 Priest of Hiroshima Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,515	We did encounter it one time before, and it was a problem with the BTS install. If you search our forum, you may find something more on it... I think it was back in our first thread, which is probably at the bottom of the forum now. It's been closed... It's called the same as the forum name. __________________ My misconception is closest to the truth... Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay Project - BUGs, and BATs, and BULLs... oh my! How to Release Your Mod! لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

May 20, 2008, 06:43 AM	#150
zulu9812 The Newbie Nightmare Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Athens of the North Posts: 6,378	Is there any documentation for the unit naming conventions? It all looks like gobbledegook to me __________________ UP THE IRONS! Get the inside story on the war in Iraq , The War Prayer My Units Field Gun, Carthage Pikeman, Rome Pikeman, Viking Spearman My Leaderheads Dwarf Lord, Dark Elf My tutorials How to make Leaderheads in Poser, Using Daz's Michael 3 for Unit Creation

May 20, 2008, 02:02 PM	#152
zulu9812 The Newbie Nightmare Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Athens of the North Posts: 6,378	Aah, my bad. I was experiencing the BUG mod through Keldath's Overlord mod, and he hadn't provided any documentation. __________________ UP THE IRONS! Get the inside story on the war in Iraq , The War Prayer My Units Field Gun, Carthage Pikeman, Rome Pikeman, Viking Spearman My Leaderheads Dwarf Lord, Dark Elf My tutorials How to make Leaderheads in Poser, Using Daz's Michael 3 for Unit Creation

May 21, 2008, 08:31 PM	#153
sethi_i Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Is there a way to tell what version of Bug is installed? Last night I uninstalled 2.2 and d'led 2.3 and installed it. I used the installer and everything is setup as before. Bug Mod ini is in the main BTS folder. I have the Bat mod setup to run on startup. Blue Marble is also installed and running. I started a new game and everything looked fine, except there are no new PLE buttons. The MA also looked the same. I went through the options screen and found no new options for the PLE addition. I checked the Bug ini and the PLE code is detailed and looks like it should display everything (lines for promotable/wounded/etc). I also double checked to ensure that I didn't reinstall 2.2 (I've done stupid-er things). The executable is for 2.3. I'm sure the answer to this is simple, but I can't figure it out. Thanks

May 21, 2008, 08:34 PM	#154
ruff_hi Live 4ever! Or die trying Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: an Aussie in NY Posts: 7,900 Images: 2	Look at the option screen - bottom right. Should have the version and revision numbers there. __________________ *My Blog* [Getting Old, Getting Cranky], *Wife's Series!* [The Prism Series - book 2 The Deeper Darkness now on sale!] *BUG Mod* - BtS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Report Bugs \| Troubleshooting \| BUG Wiki \| Modding Tutorial \| BUFFY ] "I found this great mod! Have you heard of it? It gives me everything I need!" - Troy Goodfellow's wife talking about the BUG mod Spawn Busting: All the cool guys are doing it \| Ruff's Oz Game is now up and seeking your input! Test your knowledge of probability quiz! My latest game report - new 3/26

May 21, 2008, 09:42 PM	#156
sethi_i Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Ruff...the one thing I forgot to say was the options screen shows the BAT version, not the BUG version. I guess it's because I have BAT setup as the mod? EF...That was exactly it, and Blue Marble is fine too. Thanks

May 21, 2008, 11:18 PM	#157
Balderstrom Emperor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Halifax, NS, Canada Posts: 1,139	Blue Marble sits at the MyDocs CustomAssets\Art level, along w/ some changes in the program directory itself: Assets\Res & Resource\ At least from what I've seen they're in pretty disparate locations and don't conflict at all.

May 23, 2008, 03:17 PM	#159
alerum68 Priest of Hiroshima Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,515	Just download the latest one. Those are all the releases we've mad... you only need to download the file called "BUGMod_230.exe" __________________ My misconception is closest to the truth... Beyond the Sword Unaltered Gameplay Project - BUGs, and BATs, and BULLs... oh my! How to Release Your Mod! لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

May 23, 2008, 08:44 PM	#160
EmperorFool Deity Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mountain View, California Posts: 9,625	Same for BAT. And the latest BAT includes the previous BUG -- not the latest 2.30. __________________ Monkeys killing monkeys killing monkeys over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys, give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. BUG Mod - BTS Unaltered Gameplay [ Forum \| Download \| FAQ \| Known Issues \| Troubleshooting \| Modding Tutorial ] BAT 3.0.1 QuickFix™ released Oct 24th

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