Deathmatch: the Bears' enclave

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 11, 2007, 12:56 PM

Niklas, cubsfan, Council roster list ...

zyxy
Aigburth
Niklas
peter grimes
fe3333au
Nikodemus
AutomatedTeller
General_W
Paul#42
tomasjj
donsig
TheLoneMan
dl123654
tonyf12
Judge Dredd
sirdanilot
cubsfan6506
Hasdrubal Barca

... bug off!!

Yeah, we've been slacking on the spoiler

We're still discussing our team strategy right now, often over msn - I'll make sure to post transcripts every now and then.

Now for some content.

So we have mid-AA UU's, they have early AA UU's, the starts are super uber good. You figure it out: we're happy about it.

I'm smack in the middle of the place while Whomp is to my South-West. I'll be tanking and he'll be gunning.

Opening plan is to pull a few scouts out each. I'll send my first to the NE, since we're in the general SW, and the next ones should go north or east. The both of us will send 3-4 warriors to look out ahead and see what we can find.

Right now I'll just guess the starts are symmetrical and that they'll have an Enkidu meat shield handy. This will be a bummer but we'll have to manage.

More to come

Whomp · Sep 11, 2007, 05:29 PM

Here's the start. Not a bad start with river cow, lux, bg's and chops early. Will get off a couple warriors early. Research set to wheel.

Empiremaker · Sep 11, 2007, 09:21 PM

Good luck. You may need it, or maybe the council will need it.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 12, 2007, 05:37 AM

I'm a pragmatist. I believe in building up my luck by myself. It's much more reliable

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 16, 2007, 01:23 PM

Fear not, lurkers, one day we'll have hit enter enough to put a warrior scout out ...

Whomp · Sep 21, 2007, 06:00 PM

Question is whether I should finish the next warrior in 3 or 4? If I shift down food from 5 to 4 it can be done but will give me a odd food allotment. I'm inclined to keep food at 5 and grow to pop 3 in four turns.

I plan to head north after both hills. Is this a wraparound map btw?
Here's a pic...

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 21, 2007, 06:20 PM

Doing it at 4 you lose a few shields but in the end what's 5 shields vs 1 pop?

I sent my scout North, it'll go E-NE to find trouble ASAP. If you're going NW, I can send my #2 to find you and get back on scouting track afterwards. I counted 3 warriors before my first settler so we still have 2 spares, one each and then meeting guy, for scouting directions. 1N, 1W, 1E?

Maybe meeting guy could take a hike around our likely settling lands ?

Whomp · Sep 21, 2007, 06:23 PM

That's kind of my feeling B. As Charis said "Growth is power".

As far as our second warriors we could meet in the middle and head north?

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 21, 2007, 06:39 PM

This is our joint map, on scale. Minimap is sloppy but I think the picture is still clear.

We are very close, my second warrior can make the trek on its own, really.

Whomp · Sep 21, 2007, 06:43 PM

Nice job on the map B. My scale is way off so that really helps.
OK along the hill and NW I'll go with #1.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 22, 2007, 06:24 PM

I'll keep a bit of suspense before the next pic, but man, that's more BG's than I've ever seen.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 25, 2007, 07:54 PM

Ok, Counting the wines, that's

Spoiler:

in the near vicinity. Someone wanted things to get bloody - bloody fast.

killercane · Sep 26, 2007, 07:01 AM

You want those despotic golden ages to be useful dont you?

Beorn-eL-Feared · Sep 26, 2007, 11:05 AM

And here I was thinking about delaying that

I really wonder what they have to talk about, this early, in the other spoiler. They picked 2 of the best early disruption units in the game. We have better UU's for mounting large scale attacks, they don't want that, they harass us with jags and EW.

Maybe they're wondering where to search. Maybe they're pondering whether to race off to chivalry, builder-style. Maybe they're searching for players to replace players as they go - they're already one down

So, well, this is where the mentalities really shift from one team to the other - we'll see how good planning fares against reacting.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Oct 07, 2007, 11:49 AM

Turn 16, F11 intel:

Both of them are AGR but neither grew as fast as Whomp to 4. Mined cows? Forests?
Cubsfan got a settler first, went from size 3 to size 1, so it wasn't on growth but he probably had time for an EW first. Doubtful he'd have two.
Niklas is getting 7 shields at size 3, he definitely mined his cow and working a forest or something.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Oct 08, 2007, 02:52 PM

Bronze and Wheel are in but I took the screenie on player switch screen so that I wouldn't have to move it around. You have horses in your cross, Whomp.

My warrior will hit a water wall North and head west from there, I think you should go South.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Oct 10, 2007, 08:15 PM

FIRST CONTACT!

As expected, Niklas did not declare war upon finding me. He ate it though

Whomp · Oct 10, 2007, 08:19 PM

Wow. What did you kill?

Elephantium · Oct 10, 2007, 09:32 PM

Congrats on first blood.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Oct 10, 2007, 10:02 PM

Just a 3/3 jag, but now he is dead and I keep exploring.

Sep 11, 2007, 09:21 PM	#3
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Sep 16, 2007, 01:23 PM	#5
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Sep 21, 2007, 06:00 PM	#6
Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,965	Question is whether I should finish the next warrior in 3 or 4? If I shift down food from 5 to 4 it can be done but will give me a odd food allotment. I'm inclined to keep food at 5 and grow to pop 3 in four turns. I plan to head north after both hills. Is this a wraparound map btw? Here's a pic... __________________ Avoid the unmanageable and manage the unavoidable. --Mark Hertsgaard A small team of A players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players. --Steve Jobs When all the experts and forecasts agree -- something else is going to happen. --Bob Farrell Some of it, you want to unlearn. -- Keith Richards

Sep 21, 2007, 06:20 PM	#7
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Doing it at 4 you lose a few shields but in the end what's 5 shields vs 1 pop? I sent my scout North, it'll go E-NE to find trouble ASAP. If you're going NW, I can send my #2 to find you and get back on scouting track afterwards. I counted 3 warriors before my first settler so we still have 2 spares, one each and then meeting guy, for scouting directions. 1N, 1W, 1E? Maybe meeting guy could take a hike around our likely settling lands ? __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 21, 2007, 06:23 PM	#8
Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,965	That's kind of my feeling B. As Charis said "Growth is power". As far as our second warriors we could meet in the middle and head north? __________________ Avoid the unmanageable and manage the unavoidable. --Mark Hertsgaard A small team of A players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players. --Steve Jobs When all the experts and forecasts agree -- something else is going to happen. --Bob Farrell Some of it, you want to unlearn. -- Keith Richards

Sep 11, 2007, 12:56 PM	#1
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Deathmatch: the Bears' enclave Niklas, cubsfan, Council roster list ... zyxy Aigburth Niklas peter grimes fe3333au Nikodemus AutomatedTeller General_W Paul#42 tomasjj donsig TheLoneMan dl123654 tonyf12 Judge Dredd sirdanilot cubsfan6506 Hasdrubal Barca ... bug off!! Yeah, we've been slacking on the spoiler We're still discussing our team strategy right now, often over msn - I'll make sure to post transcripts every now and then. Now for some content. So we have mid-AA UU's, they have early AA UU's, the starts are super uber good. You figure it out: we're happy about it. I'm smack in the middle of the place while Whomp is to my South-West. I'll be tanking and he'll be gunning. Opening plan is to pull a few scouts out each. I'll send my first to the NE, since we're in the general SW, and the next ones should go north or east. The both of us will send 3-4 warriors to look out ahead and see what we can find. Right now I'll just guess the starts are symmetrical and that they'll have an Enkidu meat shield handy. This will be a bummer but we'll have to manage. More to come __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 11, 2007, 05:29 PM	#2
Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,965	Here's the start. Not a bad start with river cow, lux, bg's and chops early. Will get off a couple warriors early. Research set to wheel. __________________ Avoid the unmanageable and manage the unavoidable. --Mark Hertsgaard A small team of A players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players. --Steve Jobs When all the experts and forecasts agree -- something else is going to happen. --Bob Farrell Some of it, you want to unlearn. -- Keith Richards

Sep 12, 2007, 05:37 AM	#4
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	I'm a pragmatist. I believe in building up my luck by myself. It's much more reliable __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 21, 2007, 06:39 PM	#9
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	This is our joint map, on scale. Minimap is sloppy but I think the picture is still clear. We are very close, my second warrior can make the trek on its own, really. Attached Thumbnails __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 21, 2007, 06:43 PM	#10
Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,965	Nice job on the map B. My scale is way off so that really helps. OK along the hill and NW I'll go with #1. __________________ Avoid the unmanageable and manage the unavoidable. --Mark Hertsgaard A small team of A players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players. --Steve Jobs When all the experts and forecasts agree -- something else is going to happen. --Bob Farrell Some of it, you want to unlearn. -- Keith Richards

Sep 22, 2007, 06:24 PM	#11
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	I'll keep a bit of suspense before the next pic, but man, that's more BG's than I've ever seen. __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 25, 2007, 07:54 PM	#12
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Ok, Counting the wines, that's Spoiler: 44 BG's in the near vicinity. Someone wanted things to get bloody - bloody fast. Attached Thumbnails __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Sep 26, 2007, 07:01 AM	#13
killercane Deity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: TN Posts: 3,278	You want those despotic golden ages to be useful dont you? __________________ Avatar courtesy of Mistfit

Sep 26, 2007, 11:05 AM	#14
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	And here I was thinking about delaying that I really wonder what they have to talk about, this early, in the other spoiler. They picked 2 of the best early disruption units in the game. We have better UU's for mounting large scale attacks, they don't want that, they harass us with jags and EW. Maybe they're wondering where to search. Maybe they're pondering whether to race off to chivalry, builder-style. Maybe they're searching for players to replace players as they go - they're already one down So, well, this is where the mentalities really shift from one team to the other - we'll see how good planning fares against reacting. __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Oct 07, 2007, 11:49 AM	#15
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Turn 16, F11 intel: Both of them are AGR but neither grew as fast as Whomp to 4. Mined cows? Forests? Cubsfan got a settler first, went from size 3 to size 1, so it wasn't on growth but he probably had time for an EW first. Doubtful he'd have two. Niklas is getting 7 shields at size 3, he definitely mined his cow and working a forest or something. __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Oct 08, 2007, 02:52 PM	#16
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Bronze and Wheel are in but I took the screenie on player switch screen so that I wouldn't have to move it around. You have horses in your cross, Whomp. My warrior will hit a water wall North and head west from there, I think you should go South. Attached Thumbnails __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Oct 10, 2007, 08:15 PM	#17
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	FIRST CONTACT! As expected, Niklas did not declare war upon finding me. He ate it though Attached Thumbnails __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

Oct 10, 2007, 08:19 PM	#18
Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,965	Wow. What did you kill? __________________ Avoid the unmanageable and manage the unavoidable. --Mark Hertsgaard A small team of A players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players. --Steve Jobs When all the experts and forecasts agree -- something else is going to happen. --Bob Farrell Some of it, you want to unlearn. -- Keith Richards

Oct 10, 2007, 09:32 PM	#19
Elephantium In the Serengeti Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 3,667	Congrats on first blood.

Oct 10, 2007, 10:02 PM	#20
Beorn-eL-Feared Idiot riding pedals Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: R³ x T's nbhd of North singularity Posts: 5,637	Just a 3/3 jag, but now he is dead and I keep exploring. __________________ La mort d'aucun individu, parmi les humains, n'est importante. Lorsqu'on meure et qu'on laisse une oeuvre après soi, on ne meurt pas complètement. On ne meurt pas totalement tant que demeure l'humanité. -Asimov

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