[Map] My huge 19 civ map for v.25 + - Page 3

Nikis-Knight · Oct 18, 2007, 08:21 PM

You aren't kidding about the elves. I reduced their starting location and took some of the bonuses away from the Ygdrisil area. (Gameplay over pretties!)
Also, Acheron/Orthus spawned on an island in the n. ocean, which is unfun, so it's much reduced. (first post updated.)

Basil II · Oct 18, 2007, 08:52 PM

I'd leave in the Nature Preserve, its cool, it doesn't help the AI all that much I don't think, and it can be destroyed by Barbs rather easily. Just my 2 cents. And as for the tree area, maybe 1 deer instead of 2 and leave 1 of the furs?

Basil II · Oct 18, 2007, 11:18 PM

Ironically I tried out your newest revised map and Acheron camped out right next to Yggrasil.

Malakim are much better now I think, very playable.

Basil II · Oct 19, 2007, 01:21 AM

Falamar is almost always in last place, I think he needs some help, maybe even changing the starting position a bit. He has trouble expanding...

felwar · Oct 19, 2007, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil II

Falamar is almost always in last place, I think he needs some help, maybe even changing the starting position a bit. He has trouble expanding...

Could be due to the constant stream of skeletons if he doesn't take out that nearby barrow early on, as it also blocks a main path north and west.

Locust-71 · Oct 19, 2007, 04:47 PM

Good map! Very... interesting. Started as Ljosalfar (as always). Builded a city between a prebuilt Death Mana and a Shadow Mana, and -poof-, both mana nodes become raw mana!

Civkid1991 · Oct 19, 2007, 08:31 PM

on the first post could you mention where to place the file? ( im not to sure where it goes myself... scenarios or ffh sub-folder?)

Basil II · Oct 19, 2007, 08:40 PM

Public Maps of your BTS folder. Then play scenario or custom scenario.

Nikis-Knight · Oct 19, 2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Good map! Very... interesting. Started as Ljosalfar (as always). Builded a city between a prebuilt Death Mana and a Shadow Mana, and -poof-, both mana nodes become raw mana!

Yeah, that always happens in FfH--mana nodes become neutral when cultural borders change in their tile.

Civkid1991 · Oct 20, 2007, 11:21 AM

i have both the newest version of ffh and the newest bts patch but im still getting a crash when the intro movie starts

is there a solution to this problem yet?

Nikis-Knight · Oct 20, 2007, 02:46 PM

I'm not sure... but it might be because I don't have the media pack installed. I will download that and then upload a new version, maybe it will help.

Nikis-Knight · Oct 20, 2007, 03:23 PM

Well, three suggestions if you are getting crash problems (obviously I double check each version myself before posting and haven't personally seen this)
1) Re-download. Maybe you dl'ed it the first time as I was replacing it? (File size unzipped should be 927 kb.
2) Try with movies turned off?
3) Try to load an autosave after a crash and see if that works to bypass the problem?
Let me know if anything works!
(All this assumes you have the CPU/RAM to play a huge map, of course.)

loocas · Oct 20, 2007, 10:50 PM

I started a game as Alexis, and on turn 8 one of the skeletons from the new lairs near Kandros killed me. Fastest death ever for me. I was unlucky though, and had chosen to make a scout instead of a warrior first. Next game there were three skeletons attacking my city around turn 12 but I had a couple warriors this time.

I'm not complaining though. I had Raging Barbs on so I was asking for it.

Also, you took away the Calabim's copper! That's okay, I realized I'd rather have a town there anyway. Good work here!

Ozbenno · Oct 21, 2007, 12:05 AM

I started the game as Valledia and much to my surprise I had a galleon miles away from my starting position. Is this right?

Nikis-Knight · Oct 21, 2007, 08:59 AM

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I started the game as Valledia and much to my surprise I had a galleon miles away from my starting position. Is this right?

Yeah, it's a nod to the Age of Ice scenario. you can delete it or use it to fog-bust. (keep barbs from spawning in the area around it.)

Nefelia · Oct 21, 2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikis-Knight

3) Try to load an autosave after a crash and see if that works to bypass the problem?

That worked for me. Thanks for the suggestion.

TravellingHat · Oct 22, 2007, 04:49 AM

Mr Nikis Knight

What a marvelous map. It must have taken ages to design, but it's an excellent piece of work of which you should be rightfully proud: clever use of numerous small seas to define distinct regions, and get maximum playing space, and the little scenic touches look great (particularly the mountain range from the Vale of Arawn to the Broken Sepulchre).

Unfortunately, my humble laptop tends to keel over and kick it's legs in the air about the middle of the game, so I can't really play beyond that. I am most disappointed!

However, within this limitation I've had good games as the Ljosalfar (a shock when I went south, but a powerhouse under Guardian of Nature), the Amurites (starting position was a bit tough, but was getting things together when my "hungry" northern neighbour wiped me out with a proper horde) and the Grigori (great starting position).

Great work. I just wish I had a more powerful machine!

Nikis-Knight · Oct 22, 2007, 07:43 AM

Thanks! When I tried playing the Doviello yesterday, I took out the Amurites after about 20 turns. Then the Bannor as soon as I found them. Then I was sort of stuck for a long time with super slow research. I don't know if there's much to be done about that., Charadon just makes a bad neighbor.

vorshlumpf · Oct 23, 2007, 04:28 AM

Well, I tried everything again, and the auto-save trick worked this time. Yay!

Is there a reason you put perma-vision on all the special sites for the Elohim? I can understand them knowing the locations, but I can't see the justification for the constant vision. I've met a bunch of civs already at the beginning of my game, including those that are quite far away.

julko · Oct 23, 2007, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefelia

That worked for me. Thanks for the suggestion.

Same here, thanks for solution to CTD problem and interesting map

Oct 18, 2007, 08:21 PM	#41
Nikis-Knight Deity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 5,632	You aren't kidding about the elves. I reduced their starting location and took some of the bonuses away from the Ygdrisil area. (Gameplay over pretties!) Also, Acheron/Orthus spawned on an island in the n. ocean, which is unfun, so it's much reduced. (first post updated.) __________________ Fall From Heaven II

Oct 18, 2007, 08:52 PM	#42
Basil II Bulgar Slayer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 69	Ljosalfar I'd leave in the Nature Preserve, its cool, it doesn't help the AI all that much I don't think, and it can be destroyed by Barbs rather easily. Just my 2 cents. And as for the tree area, maybe 1 deer instead of 2 and leave 1 of the furs?

Oct 18, 2007, 11:18 PM	#43
Basil II Bulgar Slayer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 69	Heh Ironically I tried out your newest revised map and Acheron camped out right next to Yggrasil. Malakim are much better now I think, very playable.

Oct 19, 2007, 01:21 AM	#44
Basil II Bulgar Slayer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 69	More Balance Notes Falamar is almost always in last place, I think he needs some help, maybe even changing the starting position a bit. He has trouble expanding...

Oct 19, 2007, 08:40 PM	#48
Basil II Bulgar Slayer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 69	Help Public Maps of your BTS folder. Then play scenario or custom scenario.

Oct 19, 2007, 04:47 PM	#46
Locust-71 King of Athel Loren Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden Posts: 128	Good map! Very... interesting. Started as Ljosalfar (as always). Builded a city between a prebuilt Death Mana and a Shadow Mana, and -poof-, both mana nodes become raw mana!

Oct 19, 2007, 08:31 PM	#47
Civkid1991 in shade of poison trees Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 871	on the first post could you mention where to place the file? ( im not to sure where it goes myself... scenarios or ffh sub-folder?)

Oct 20, 2007, 11:21 AM	#50
Civkid1991 in shade of poison trees Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 871	i have both the newest version of ffh and the newest bts patch but im still getting a crash when the intro movie starts is there a solution to this problem yet?

Oct 20, 2007, 02:46 PM	#51
Nikis-Knight Deity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 5,632	I'm not sure... but it might be because I don't have the media pack installed. I will download that and then upload a new version, maybe it will help. __________________ Fall From Heaven II

Oct 20, 2007, 03:23 PM	#52
Nikis-Knight Deity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 5,632	Well, three suggestions if you are getting crash problems (obviously I double check each version myself before posting and haven't personally seen this) 1) Re-download. Maybe you dl'ed it the first time as I was replacing it? (File size unzipped should be 927 kb. 2) Try with movies turned off? 3) Try to load an autosave after a crash and see if that works to bypass the problem? Let me know if anything works! (All this assumes you have the CPU/RAM to play a huge map, of course.) __________________ Fall From Heaven II

Oct 20, 2007, 10:50 PM	#53
loocas Prince Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 439	I started a game as Alexis, and on turn 8 one of the skeletons from the new lairs near Kandros killed me. Fastest death ever for me. I was unlucky though, and had chosen to make a scout instead of a warrior first. Next game there were three skeletons attacking my city around turn 12 but I had a couple warriors this time. I'm not complaining though. I had Raging Barbs on so I was asking for it. Also, you took away the Calabim's copper! That's okay, I realized I'd rather have a town there anyway. Good work here!

Oct 21, 2007, 12:05 AM	#54
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,573	I started the game as Valledia and much to my surprise I had a galleon miles away from my starting position. Is this right? __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Oct 22, 2007, 04:49 AM	#57
TravellingHat Warlord Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 225	Mr Nikis Knight What a marvelous map. It must have taken ages to design, but it's an excellent piece of work of which you should be rightfully proud: clever use of numerous small seas to define distinct regions, and get maximum playing space, and the little scenic touches look great (particularly the mountain range from the Vale of Arawn to the Broken Sepulchre). Unfortunately, my humble laptop tends to keel over and kick it's legs in the air about the middle of the game, so I can't really play beyond that. I am most disappointed! However, within this limitation I've had good games as the Ljosalfar (a shock when I went south, but a powerhouse under Guardian of Nature), the Amurites (starting position was a bit tough, but was getting things together when my "hungry" northern neighbour wiped me out with a proper horde) and the Grigori (great starting position). Great work. I just wish I had a more powerful machine! __________________ Oh look... I've just made a knight! Shame the enemy has tanks

Oct 22, 2007, 07:43 AM	#58
Nikis-Knight Deity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 5,632	Thanks! When I tried playing the Doviello yesterday, I took out the Amurites after about 20 turns. Then the Bannor as soon as I found them. Then I was sort of stuck for a long time with super slow research. I don't know if there's much to be done about that., Charadon just makes a bad neighbor. __________________ Fall From Heaven II

Oct 23, 2007, 04:28 AM	#59
vorshlumpf Emperor Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 1,096	Well, I tried everything again, and the auto-save trick worked this time. Yay! Is there a reason you put perma-vision on all the special sites for the Elohim? I can understand them knowing the locations, but I can't see the justification for the constant vision. I've met a bunch of civs already at the beginning of my game, including those that are quite far away. __________________ - Niilo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm broken. No other computer games 'do it' for me anymore. I've tried buying some. I've tried downloading others. But no sooner have I started playing them than I'm thinking about this again. Success is the happy feeling you get between the time you do something and the time you tell a woman what you did. - Dilbert My Fall from Heaven research thread can be found here.

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