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Old Feb 21, 2008, 09:49 PM   #361
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My turnset

I was able to raze 2 Korean cities, and get 1 oil source. I'm scared that the Spanish will take Inch'on for themselves & 1 of our oil sources.
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Turn 0-Tell Korea to get out, they passively say they will leave
Korean Cav & Settler move towards Kagoshima
Renew Incense trade w/Greece, Incense & 13 gpt for Furs
Trade Sanitation to Greece for Communism, WM, & 40 gold
China & Egypt sign peace treaty
Osaka-Inf<Art (2 turns)
Satsuma-Art<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 1 (1505 AD)- Boot Korea out, they don’t declare war
Move troops in position for Korean war
Egypt & Spain will not ally w/us vs. Korea for all of our techs & money
IBT-Greece wants trade embargo vs. Zulu, rejected
Greece & Zulus sign peace treaty
Korea moves Cav into our territory. We tell them to get out, they DOW us.
Tokyo-Privateer<Inf (2 turns)
Turn 2 (1510 AD)- Sail Privateer into Korean territory hoping to sink their ships
Art misses target at Inch’on
Cav is killed by Korean Cav (0-1)
Cav kills Korean Cav (1-1)
@Inch’on-Cav kills Korean Inf (2-1)
Cav kills Korean Inf (3-1),redlined
@Wonsan-Arts destroy library,university,marketplace, & redline rifle
Cav kills Korean Cav (4-1)
Cav kills Korean Spear (5-1)
Cav kills Korean redline Rifle (6-1), raze Wonsan, capture 2 slaves
Sell Refining to Spain for Alliance vs. Korea
Sell Electricity to Egypt for Alliance vs. Korea
Sell Industrialization to China for Alliance vs. Korea
IBT-Korean Cav kills Greece Cav
Korean Cav kills Spanish Cav
Spanish Cav kills Korean cav while attacking Cordoba
Kagoshima-Stock Exchange<Cav (2 turns)
Osaka-Art<Inf(2 turns)
Satsuma-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 3 (1515 AD)-@Inch’on: Bomb kills 2 citizens
Korean Inf kills Cav (6-2)
Cav is redlined by Korean Inf
Inf is killed by Korean Inf (6-3)
@Pyongyang: Cav is killed by Korean Inf (6-4)
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (6-5)
Cav is redlined
IBT-Korean Cav kills Cav (6-6)
Korean Cav kills Cav (6-7)
2 Korean Cavs are killed by Spanish
Privateer sinks Frigate
Kyoto-Battlefield Med<Wall Street (5 turns)
Tokyo-Inf<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 4 (1520 AD)-Move Inf on 1 oil source
Move Cav near Inch’on
Bomb Inch’on, destroy Barracks
IBT-Cav is killed by Korean Cav (6-8)
Trade The Corp to Egypt for Silks, WM, & 20 gold
Kagoshima-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Osaka-Inf<Cav (2 turns)
Satsuma-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 5 (1525 AD)-@Pyongyang: Bomb their access to horses, kill 1 citizen
Guerilla is killed by Korean Inf (6-9)
@Inch’on: Destroy Marketplace, injure Inf
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (6-10)
IBT- Korea & Zulus have trade embargo against us
Tokyo-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 6 (1530 AD)-@Inch’on: Destroyed Library
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (6-11)
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (6-12)
Cav is redlined
IBT-Spanish capture Sariwon
Kagoshima-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Osaka-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Satsuma-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 7(1535 AD)-Bomb Inch’on, destroyed bank
Bomb Pyongyang, killed citizen
@Inch’on: Cav kills Korean Inf (7-12)
Cav is redlined
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (7-13)
IBT- America & Korea have trade embargo against us
Steel is complete. Start Combustion (10 turns)
Wall Street is completed. Start Inf in Kyoto.
Tokyo-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
We lost Ivory & Rubber.
Trade Steel to Spain for Dyes, Gems, WM, 60 gold, & 112 gpt
Trade Refining to Greece for Rubber & 650 gold
Turn 8 (1540 AD)-Bomb Inch’on, destroy university & kill 1 citizen
Bomb Pyongyang, destroy barracks
Cav is killed by Korean Inf at Pyongyang (7-14)
IBT-Spanish & Egyptian Cavs surround Pyongyang
China wants Allaince vs. Zulu & ROP, rejected
Kagoshima-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Osaka-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Satsuma-Cav<Cav (2 turns)
Turn 9 (1545 AD)-Bomb Pyongyang, destroy temple & 1 citizen
@Pyongyang- Cav kills Korean Inf (8-14)
Cav kills Korean Rifle, raze city
IBT-Spanish Cav kill Korean Inf at Inch’on
Kyoto-Inf<Inf (2 turns)
Tokyo-Cav<Police Station (4 turns)
Turn 10 (1550 AD)- @Inch’on-Inf kills Korean Inf (8-14)
Cav is killed by Korean Inf (8-15)
Inf is killed by Korean Inf (8-16)
3506 Gold
+66 gpt
Combustion in 8 turns
Kyoto has 12445 culture points
Win date 1808 AD


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Old Feb 21, 2008, 10:28 PM   #362
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Uh... You redlined all the Infantry in the cities with arty before the battles, right?

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Old Feb 22, 2008, 05:32 AM   #363
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Hawk, what's our arty stack doing unguarded in the middle of Korean territory????? It should be helping with the attack on Inch'on.
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Old Feb 22, 2008, 05:00 PM   #364
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choxorn-Yes, I did bomb the infantry before the battle. Most of the hits either killed citizens or destroyed improvements.
killerkid-As far as I know, each artillery has infantry cover. The stack your referring to attacked Pyongyang first, then was moving to Inch'on.
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Old Feb 22, 2008, 07:04 PM   #365
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Well, if there is, I can't see it. I'm referring to the one S, S, SW of Inchon.

Also, I will be on vacation from Feb. 24-Mar 2. I will have Net access, but won't be able to play.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 06:30 PM   #366
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Overseer- Do you need a swap? It's been 5 days since I played...
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 06:38 PM   #367
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Overseer- Do you need a swap? It's been 5 days since I played...
I hadn't realized I am up. Sorry about that! If someone wants it, I'll swap. Otherwise, I will play either tonight or more likely tomorrow night.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 06:43 PM   #368
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Finally finished playing. Korea is down to 6 cities, they are toast. A new problem has cropped up, Spain is beginnning to demand tech, and now they are the largest AI. I think we need to wait til we get tanks, but I think they need pruned back. Here is my turn-log:

Spoiler:

Pre-flight: CivAssist 2, Word running. Get the save loaded. Look things over.
See some slaves parked with a few working, so I get the whip out. Finish railing the hill tiles. It takes our scanty cavalry reserves and our last samurai dying, but I raze Inchon.

Non-Combat:
Workers 0 Slaves 33
Military:
Cavalry 7
Infantry 18
Artillery 10
Ironclad 1
Galleon 1
Privateer 1
Guerilla 1

Hit enter=>

IBT: Kagoshima Cavalry=> Cavalry.
Satsuma Cavalry=> Cavalry.
Osaka Cavalry=> Cavalry.
Egyptians acting suspiciously, this bears watching.

1555 AD: Move troops about just in case.
I HATE foreign troops in my territory, even allies.

IBT: Kyoto Infantry=>Courthouse.(I want an even 80 spt)
Egyptian Cavalry heads toward Taejon.

1560 AD:

IBT: Korea and Spain make peace.
Kagoshima Cavalry=> Cavalry.
Satsuma Cavalry=> Cavalry.
Osaka Cavalry=> Cavalry.

1565 AD: Taejon razed, lose 2 cavalry in the process.

IBT: Now the Greeks are running troops into our territory, [gritting teeth].
Kyoto Courthouse=>Infantry.
Tokyo Police Station=>Artillery.

1570 AD: set a line of troops up to test Greek intentions.

IBT: Greeks back off. Korea wants peace, but we have alliances to uphold…No deal!
Kagoshima Cavalry=>Artillery.
Satsuma Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Osaka Cavalry=>Infantry.

1575 AD:

IBT: Kyoto Infantry=> Infantry.
Tokyo Artillery=>Artillery.

1580 AD:

IBT: Isabella demands Atomic Theory. I reluctantly cave.
Kagoshima Artillery=> Infantry.
Osaka Infantry=>Infantry.
Satsuma Cavalry=> Cavalry.

1585 AD: Move 7 cavalry towards Nam’po.

IBT: Combustion arrives, next is Mass Production.
Kyoto Infantry=>Infantry.
Tokyo Artillery=>Destroyer.
Our people want to add to our palace, Add a hallway to the west wing.

1590 AD: Spirited defense at Nam’po, lose 3 cavalry to Infantry, city still stands.

IBT: Lose another cav to “instant offense” guerilla. Nam’po = waste of time.
Greece and China make peace.
Kagoshima Infantry=>Cavalry.
Satsuma Infantry =>Cavalry.
Osaka Cavalry=> Cavalry.

1595 AD:

IBT: Kyoto Infantry=>Cavalry.

1600 AD: nada, and I am finished with this turn-set.

Non-Combat:
Workers 0 Slaves 36
Military:
Cavalry 11
Infantry 25
Artillery 13
Ironclad 1
Galleon 1
Privateer 1
Guerilla 1


Here is the save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/upload...r__1600_AD.SAV

No pictures, as territory stays about the same.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 08:01 PM   #369
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Okay, killerkid won't be back for 3 days, so it would probably be a good idea for him to get a swap with Tassle, and then play when he's done. If Tassle finishes fast enough, maybe I'll play a set too.
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 06:11 PM   #370
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There has been a change in plan. I will be able to play my set Sunday Morning (GMT-5) So if Tasslehoff can play before then, that's fine. But I doubt Choxorn can play too.

I think we need to ally with Greece against Spain. they are the only AI we haven't pruned back. (Come to think of it, we've done a lot; Zulu, China, Egypt, Korean, and now Spain)
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 10:33 PM   #371
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Ok, I can play either late tonight or tomorrow.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 09:56 AM   #372
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Best of luck. Spain looks a little scary.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 10:30 PM   #373
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I only managed to play 5 turns, sorry.

Very boring set. I destroyed Namp'o, then made peace with korea for tons of Gold. Mass Production in one turn, and we're pumping 6 Cavs or Arty every two turns, ready for war with spain any time.

Spoiler for Turnset:
Turn 0- 1600 AD- A bit of MMing, then hit enter.
IBT-Renew the Greek incense deal for 12GPT and 15G rather than 13 GPT.
Korea and Egypt make peace. Cav retreats to Guerilla.
Kagoshima Cav->Artillery. Kyoto, Osaka Cav->Cav. Tokyo Destroyer->Artillery. Satsuma Cav->Cav
Turn 1- 1605 AD- Fail to plant a spy with Korea.
IBT- Pollution, Kyoto Cav->Cav
Turn 2- 1610 AD-Most ZZZ. Send some cavs near Namp'o, covered, and with Arty.
IBT- Realize that the MA against Korea is over. I cancel it.
Kagoshima, Kyoto Arty->Cav. Everywhere else Cav->Cav.
Turn 3- 1615 AD- ZZZ
IBT- The Spanish have too many cavs running around by Cordoba...
Kyyoto Cav->Cav. Lose silks.
Turn 4- 1620 AD- I get the silks back for 10GPT. We've got plenty.
Bombard, then kill two infantry and guerilla, to easily take and destroy Namp'o. Make peace with korea for 77G and 44 GPT.
IBT- Kagoshima Cav->Police Station, Satsuma Cav->Arty, the rest Cav->Cav
Turn 5- 1625 AD- Science->80%, Mass Production in 1.


No pics, still no change, really. I calculated a victory in approximately 57 turns- early 1700s.

Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/upload...as-1625_AD.SAV
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Old Mar 02, 2008, 05:42 AM   #374
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OK, I got it. I'm, a bit busy, so I'll play the remaining 5 on Tasslehoff's set.
Do you think we should just play 5 from now on?

Before I play, should I go to war with Spain immediatly or not? I don't think so, just because Cavs get PWNed by Infantry, and we should wait for tanks. I'll start building more artillery and less cavalry if this is our plan.
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Build the artillery, it's not as effective against cities in PTW, but works great against troops in the open. We can play 5 or 10 turns from here on, depending on how busy things get. If we get into that war soon, probably 5 Victory is imminent, just got to avoid surprises. We want to make sure we build the UN and never hold a vote, as it would really suck to lose that way.
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Old Mar 03, 2008, 05:33 AM   #376
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Ok, I'll play 5 now (finishing Tasslehoff's); will be done soon.


EDIT: No, I won't. When I try and download his save I get this message:

Not Found

The requested URL /uploads/117283/Hawk02-Tas-1625_AD.SAV was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Tas, maybe another try at uploading?

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Easy Upload is apparently not working, so my save won't be working until it's back up. At least, I assume so.ß
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Old Mar 03, 2008, 05:30 PM   #378
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Use the other upload system, you access it through the manage attachment feature on the advanced reply page. It looks like this:

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In case you don't know, I think I have an explanation to the problem:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265861
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Old Mar 03, 2008, 06:04 PM   #380
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I just saw that, choxorn... Crap.

EDIT: Ignore the save, it's the wrong one...

I'll put the right one once I get on the computer that has it...
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