Unit Request: Colonial Musketman - Page 3

Civanator · Aug 10, 2002, 08:04 AM

hey can you finish the unit now? i heard you were back.

History Guy · Aug 11, 2002, 09:56 AM

Yes, I'd love to see this unit finished...it'd make my Zulu Armies more powerful than ever!

Dark Sheer · Aug 11, 2002, 10:23 AM

Yup, I am backed just this morning (Well, more like 2am in the morning

). Give me a few days to catch up on my Succession Games and I will continue the work on this unit.

Jon Shafer · Aug 11, 2002, 10:28 AM

Thanks DS, it'll be great once (if

) you get it finished.

I'll probably work it into my mod (with a massive tech restructuring) once you get it done.

one_man_assault · Aug 11, 2002, 10:30 AM

whooo hooo [dance]

now I can have a colonial rifle man for my american revolution scenario

Civanator · Aug 16, 2002, 06:40 AM

DS??!!??!!?? are you working on the unit?????

Jon Shafer · Aug 16, 2002, 10:56 AM

Yeah! C'mon DS, this is the only unit I really care about getting.

hzm · Aug 16, 2002, 08:24 PM

Yeah come on! This is a very important unit that a lot of people want. I can only hope you haven't abandoned this unit in favor of another weird unit like that spider you made.

one_man_assault · Aug 17, 2002, 12:40 AM

please DS there is a major demand for this unit...dont let us down

dannyevilcat · Aug 17, 2002, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hzm
Yeah come on! This is a very important unit that a lot of people want. I can only hope you haven't abandoned this unit in favor of another weird unit like that spider you made.

Hey, dude, why are you freaking out? I also really want it, but DS is just a volunteer unit maker, taking his own time to make it.

ViceRoy · Aug 17, 2002, 09:43 AM

Give DS break he will get it ready when he has time.

I want to thank DarkSheer of making great units and especially about Bandit and Canoe units which serve well my mod that I'm currently making.

Thank you and looking forward to this unit as well.

Dark Sheer · Aug 17, 2002, 10:53 AM

Sorry for the delay, but I just manage to catch up on all my succession game (4!) after a week.

I will get to work on this unit.

one_man_assault · Aug 17, 2002, 01:29 PM

[dance]

cool

Civanator · Aug 17, 2002, 01:32 PM

yaay!!

Civanator · Aug 17, 2002, 03:55 PM

got musket sounds, they might help.
i recommend small_1 for the firing sound.

Kestrel18 · Aug 19, 2002, 05:54 PM

Here is a Civilopedia descriptoion for the Colonial Musketman, intermediate between Musketman and Rifleman, (which I have called the Infantryman) if anyone wants it.

#PRTO_Infantryman
^
^
^[Infantrymen] are powerful defenders.
#DESC_PRTO_Infantryman
^
^Military strategists, most notably Prince Maurice of Nassau, a great Dutch military teacher, developed drill - the preparation for war by prescribed movements and formations - to increase efficiency.
^
^The invention of the bayonet in 1670 gave infantries little reason to keep pikemen, and infantry units employed muskets and bayonet exclusively from then on. The Bayonet is recognized by many as being one of the decisive weapons of the 2nd millennium. In the 18th century when muskets were lighter and easier to load, bayonets were universally placed on the ends of the barrel and the importance of the pikemen diminished.
^
^Smaller tactical groups of infantrymen facilitated quicker rate of group fire with minimal mutual interference. Lines dropped from 8 to 10 in the 17th century to 2 to 3 at the end of the 18th century. With the advent of more modern infanry drills Infantry ceased to use a long line formation because it held the risk that enemy cavalry might attack the flanks or rear and "roll up the line". The hollow square was adopted because it could repulse a $LINK<cavalry=PRTO_Cavalry> attack from any direction. A formation of resolute advancing infantry, bayonets drawn, screaming their battle cries in the 18th century struck fear in the hearts of the enemy and often caused the opposing ranks to break and run.
^
^The use of the bayonet waned with the advent of more accurate $LINK<rifled arms=PRTO_Rifleman> in the mid 19th century, which were able to pick off advancing infantry from a distance. The bayonet charge was all but eliminated with the appearance of $LINK<Infantry=PRTO_Infantry> with automatic weapons in the 20th century, although they were still issued to troops and were still used in battle (c.f. the Japanese in WW2). Bayonets, albeit much reduced in size from earlier models, remain a part of the Infantry's weaponry up to the present day.
^
^The Infantryman unit is basically the Musketman equipped with Flintlock & Bayonet and drilled in Infantry procedures.

one_man_assault · Aug 19, 2002, 07:08 PM

nice insight Kestrel I hope DS will use it if he decides to finish the unit

Civanator · Aug 19, 2002, 07:21 PM

keyword: IF

Kal-el · Aug 19, 2002, 07:24 PM

whether DS decides to use that pedia entry or not is irrelevant. It is up to you as the end user or the modder to insert the pedia entry.

Civanator · Aug 20, 2002, 06:53 AM

i wish i could make units, cause i would have finished by now

Aug 10, 2002, 08:04 AM	#41
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	hey can you finish the unit now? i heard you were back. __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

Aug 11, 2002, 10:28 AM	#44
Jon Shafer Conifer Games President Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,049	Thanks DS, it'll be great once (if ) you get it finished. I'll probably work it into my mod (with a massive tech restructuring) once you get it done. __________________ Check out At the Gates, my new 4X game!

Aug 11, 2002, 10:30 AM	#45
one_man_assault Dir-tay Uno Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: one man alone in the wild Posts: 436	whooo hooo [dance] now I can have a colonial rifle man for my american revolution scenario __________________ "The complete domination of one empire over another is a catastrophic occurrence in the balance of nations...one may only have one silk resource while another a plentiful supply..." - One. Man. Assault.

Aug 16, 2002, 06:40 AM	#46
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	DS??!!??!!?? are you working on the unit????? __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

Aug 16, 2002, 10:56 AM	#47
Jon Shafer Conifer Games President Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,049	Yeah! C'mon DS, this is the only unit I really care about getting. __________________ Check out At the Gates, my new 4X game!

Aug 11, 2002, 09:56 AM	#42
History Guy Number Six Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the Village Posts: 162	Yes, I'd love to see this unit finished...it'd make my Zulu Armies more powerful than ever!

Aug 11, 2002, 10:23 AM	#43
Dark Sheer Deity Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 2,096	Yup, I am backed just this morning (Well, more like 2am in the morning ). Give me a few days to catch up on my Succession Games and I will continue the work on this unit.

Aug 16, 2002, 08:24 PM	#48
hzm Ecco the Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: western united states Posts: 352	Yeah come on! This is a very important unit that a lot of people want. I can only hope you haven't abandoned this unit in favor of another weird unit like that spider you made.

Aug 17, 2002, 12:40 AM	#49
one_man_assault Dir-tay Uno Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: one man alone in the wild Posts: 436	please DS there is a major demand for this unit...dont let us down __________________ "The complete domination of one empire over another is a catastrophic occurrence in the balance of nations...one may only have one silk resource while another a plentiful supply..." - One. Man. Assault.

Aug 17, 2002, 09:43 AM	#51
ViceRoy of Brave New World Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brave New World Posts: 118	Relax. Give DS break he will get it ready when he has time. I want to thank DarkSheer of making great units and especially about Bandit and Canoe units which serve well my mod that I'm currently making. Thank you and looking forward to this unit as well.

Aug 17, 2002, 10:53 AM	#52
Dark Sheer Deity Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 2,096	Sorry for the delay, but I just manage to catch up on all my succession game (4!) after a week. I will get to work on this unit.

Aug 17, 2002, 01:29 PM	#53
one_man_assault Dir-tay Uno Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: one man alone in the wild Posts: 436	[dance] cool __________________ "The complete domination of one empire over another is a catastrophic occurrence in the balance of nations...one may only have one silk resource while another a plentiful supply..." - One. Man. Assault.

Aug 17, 2002, 01:32 PM	#54
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	yaay!! __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

Aug 17, 2002, 03:55 PM	#55
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	got some musket sounds got musket sounds, they might help. i recommend small_1 for the firing sound. __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

Aug 19, 2002, 05:54 PM	#56
Kestrel18 Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 40	Here is a Civilopedia descriptoion for the Colonial Musketman, intermediate between Musketman and Rifleman, (which I have called the Infantryman) if anyone wants it. #PRTO_Infantryman ^ ^ ^[Infantrymen] are powerful defenders. #DESC_PRTO_Infantryman ^ ^Military strategists, most notably Prince Maurice of Nassau, a great Dutch military teacher, developed drill - the preparation for war by prescribed movements and formations - to increase efficiency. ^ ^The invention of the bayonet in 1670 gave infantries little reason to keep pikemen, and infantry units employed muskets and bayonet exclusively from then on. The Bayonet is recognized by many as being one of the decisive weapons of the 2nd millennium. In the 18th century when muskets were lighter and easier to load, bayonets were universally placed on the ends of the barrel and the importance of the pikemen diminished. ^ ^Smaller tactical groups of infantrymen facilitated quicker rate of group fire with minimal mutual interference. Lines dropped from 8 to 10 in the 17th century to 2 to 3 at the end of the 18th century. With the advent of more modern infanry drills Infantry ceased to use a long line formation because it held the risk that enemy cavalry might attack the flanks or rear and "roll up the line". The hollow square was adopted because it could repulse a $LINK<cavalry=PRTO_Cavalry> attack from any direction. A formation of resolute advancing infantry, bayonets drawn, screaming their battle cries in the 18th century struck fear in the hearts of the enemy and often caused the opposing ranks to break and run. ^ ^The use of the bayonet waned with the advent of more accurate $LINK<rifled arms=PRTO_Rifleman> in the mid 19th century, which were able to pick off advancing infantry from a distance. The bayonet charge was all but eliminated with the appearance of $LINK<Infantry=PRTO_Infantry> with automatic weapons in the 20th century, although they were still issued to troops and were still used in battle (c.f. the Japanese in WW2). Bayonets, albeit much reduced in size from earlier models, remain a part of the Infantry's weaponry up to the present day. ^ ^The Infantryman unit is basically the Musketman equipped with Flintlock & Bayonet and drilled in Infantry procedures.

Aug 19, 2002, 07:08 PM	#57
one_man_assault Dir-tay Uno Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: one man alone in the wild Posts: 436	nice insight Kestrel I hope DS will use it if he decides to finish the unit __________________ "The complete domination of one empire over another is a catastrophic occurrence in the balance of nations...one may only have one silk resource while another a plentiful supply..." - One. Man. Assault.

Aug 19, 2002, 07:21 PM	#58
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	keyword: IF __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

Aug 19, 2002, 07:24 PM	#59
Kal-el Deity Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Washington DC Posts: 4,827	whether DS decides to use that pedia entry or not is irrelevant. It is up to you as the end user or the modder to insert the pedia entry. __________________ Designer of the Double Your Pleasure Mod and Rise and Rule, Check them out the latest version at Rise and Rule for C3C and DocT's 1.04 pre-Beta

Aug 20, 2002, 06:53 AM	#60
Civanator Deity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gone Posts: 2,902	i wish i could make units, cause i would have finished by now __________________ Civ III:How To: Upgrade regular units to UU's!

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